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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 16, 2015 - 11:00pm PT
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I'm curious about these kinds of things. Don't get me wrong , I think it's very cool that a national spotlight has been directed upon the climbing world, despite the fact that a great majority of the general public were apparently incapable of understanding exactly how or why it may have been a momentous accomplishment. Many casual news consumers had been led to think this may have been perhaps the first time El Cap had ever been climbed at all. Those who might have known otherwise were nevertheless unable to properly grasp --at least within the available brief news reports --the overriding significance of the climb, the details of why and how it was historic, or even the relative context of the achievement .
So, why did it all go so big? A national news item. International actually.
Is there something I missed somewhere in the development of this whole thing. I mean, was there much of a 'run-up" in the public press prior to the first pitch?
Was it something that happened spontaneously , maybe related to a relatively slow news week in the lagging wake of terrorist killings?
Was it social media run amok?
Or were there some strings being yanked in the proverbial background by a gaggle of pooled sponsors and their publicity people who might have been calling in a few chips with the big media?
(Yes even Obama's flunkies got in on the act with a formulaic tweet on the Twitter )
Enlighten me.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 16, 2015 - 11:04pm PT
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W.L.
I'm not buying your explanation
Pennies don't fall from heaven , 'dude.'
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Jan 16, 2015 - 11:07pm PT
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My guess is that Adidas Outdoor (who sponsor Kevin) realized this was a potentially dramatic event,
so they hired Tom (billed as Senior Staff Photographer) to get the shots (and later explain things to the other media), and also posted daily video logs to youtube.
Since Adidas goes well beyond climbing, I imagine they got the New York Times interested (but that's just a guess, pretty much the same as yours).
Having Andrew Bisharat writing for the National Geographic probably helped too.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 16, 2015 - 11:10pm PT
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Adidas Outdoor hey? Wow.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Jan 16, 2015 - 11:11pm PT
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They suddenly wearing expedition down coats in the California heat. Well played indeed.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 16, 2015 - 11:23pm PT
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Thanks Clint. I was just a bit curious.
This thing really took off for everyone concerned . Quite a success for the publicity people at Adidas Outdoor, pulling in the major news outlets.But of course timing is everything.So is money.
You'd think the female speed record would have gotten much more popular attention outside of the climbing world than it eventually did.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Jan 16, 2015 - 11:45pm PT
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Adidas Outdoor just posted the women's speed record video a few days ago.
It was up in some other form before, I think (I remember seeing it several days earlier).
Clearly both climbers were sponsored by them, as they are wearing the clothes with Adidas logos and stripes.
The footage is really great and also amazing how much they dropped the record after initially not breaking it.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Jan 17, 2015 - 12:25am PT
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The New York times first drew attention to the climb in line with other stories they occasionally do on climbing. Their first article was garbled with statements like the climbers were climbing rope free yet one could see photos of ropes everywhere. The Times was then widely criticized for these inaccuracies in the letters to the editor and they wrote a second article clarifying the first, which got more people interested and the project expanded. When they did a third article, the other news media got involved.
I think the climb's popularity also had a lot to do with the events in France. People were looking for some good news, for an example of young men doing something bold that was not destructive, and however, quixotic to the public, were following their dream. Americans love a story of overcoming adversity and Kevin's epic on the fifteenth pitch provided all the drama and human interest needed. The photography was fantastic and when the families were interviewed, it began to seem like the same kind of biographic coverage done during the Olympics and extreme climbing suddenly looked more mainstream.
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cuvvy
Sport climber
arkansas
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Jan 17, 2015 - 12:47am PT
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Kind of ridiculous if you ask somebody. things are getting crazy down here. this is the last thing we needed. Better start putting those little number machines at the base of the climbs(like they have at deli counters)
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David D.
Trad climber
California
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Jan 17, 2015 - 06:08am PT
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Cuvvy, I doubt you have to worry about things getting crowded on the Dawn Wall any time soon. As for the trade routes in the Valley, that ship has sailed. Although, in all honesty, even those aren't as crowded as people make them out to be. I've had plenty of lonely days just me and my partner on classic routes like Nutcracker, CPF, EB on MCR, Braille Book, Serenity/Sons... Etc. Getting up early or starting late helps.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Jan 17, 2015 - 06:28am PT
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Tommy the famous underwear model had signed with Victor's Not So Secret.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 17, 2015 - 06:49am PT
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Significant dramatic climbs happen every year. Why this one?
I think access is pretty key. Proximity to LA and SF media centers with major national news resources and easy logistics. Pretty nice assignment for the crews. great lodging, 10 minute commute to the site. Spectacular famous landscape. Someone like Tom Evans as a good resource for info. Then the New York Times getting things kickstarted. Throw in maybe a bit of PR effort by the sponsors. Perfect amount of time on route. Enough to gain news momentum and then finish within a decent news cycle. A 2 hour nose climb is over before they could drive halfway to Yosemite.
El Cap makes for a damn fine stage.
Not many climbs have all that going for them when it comes to making coverage easy. Plus there WAS a good background story.
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couchmaster
climber
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Jan 17, 2015 - 06:51am PT
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Good call Clint. I was thinking that Michael Jacksons old publicist must have finally gotten a job, but like your explanation better.
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John M
climber
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Jan 17, 2015 - 07:32am PT
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speed climbing versus the dawn wall
the speed climbing was over in a short time, so no time to build a story.
the dawn wall had multiple things to get peoples attentions
the drama was building
they spent 7 years working the route
kevin's fight to do pitch 15 sucked in more people.. i.e. more drama unfolding
it was happening in beautiful Yosemite
I think it was the time factor which allowed the story to build which allowed it to draw a bigger audience is why there was so much media at the end.
Most of these events get one story, and they are over. So no time to build an audience. News media like stories to build. It means the audience will likely grow. They have an unending need for new stories.. so one and done doesn't give them as much bang for the buck.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jan 17, 2015 - 08:08am PT
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Dingus got part of it.
These things just happen; critical mass and the luck of the draw for slow news cycles.
The second part is that once it grabs some attention in one news outlet, others immediately jump on it so that they are not left out in case it gets big.
After that it's the old snowball rolling downhill. Doesn't matter that the original snowball was small and not particularly important compared to other snowballs, if it gains that critical mass Dingus mentioned, it soon becomes huge -- regardless of what it really is or what it's significance might be.
The final part is that eventually the angle eases, the now-giant snowball slows to a halt, and gradually melts away, soon to be forgotten by 99% of the people who were so excited while it was barreling down the hill.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jan 17, 2015 - 08:21am PT
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The media exposure is good for the sport,
is it? Why?
or is it good for the Industry and entertainment media?
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID
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Jan 17, 2015 - 08:24am PT
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Bingo....Wade Icey, you win a prize.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Jan 17, 2015 - 08:35am PT
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The NY times writers are climbers, guides even that have climbed El Cap and know Caldwell I believe, they knew what they were looking at and gave it some attention.
This combined with basically everyone in the outdoor industry also knowing what they were looking at and blogging/posting about it got the attention of the main stream.
Clear to me, watched it happen. NY times was first and went big with it right away.
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Nick
climber
portland, Oregon
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Jan 17, 2015 - 09:03am PT
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Don't get me wrong, I think what was accomplished on the Dawn Wall is one of the great rock climbing feats of all times. But, I do not think the media coverage is good for the "sport". Real rock climbing as opposed to indoor climbing has limited resources and with a growing population of climbers those resources will continue to feel the impact of increased use. The real benefit is to the outdoor industry which hopes to capitalize on the event for marketing purposes.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 17, 2015 - 09:05am PT
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Because oddly, it sold a lot of advertising.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jan 17, 2015 - 09:10am PT
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Let's ignore your awful, right wing slant and speculate...it's pretty simple, actually. People like a feel good news story. 24/7 cable news emphasizes the negative stories mostly, despite positive news on the economy and other fronts. This was a diversion, however short.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jan 17, 2015 - 09:38am PT
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I think Ward's OP is a good question (except for his predictable Obama snark).
For the most part, the significance of the completion of this route is understandable to a pretty narrow section of society.
The level of international recognition this received must have been largely a combination of a planned media blitz, and a relatively slower news cycle.
Had it received the usual level of climbing media attention, and there had been an impending election or domestic disaster going on, it probably wouldn't have gone as big.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jan 17, 2015 - 09:45am PT
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The proliferation of climbing gyms has made climbing more accessible to the general public, so the potential audience is much bigger. Climbing does appear to be a fringe activity for the mentally unstable as much as it once did.
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elcap-pics
Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
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Jan 17, 2015 - 10:02am PT
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Good guess Clint! Actually I was sent to just take some shots and a few videos and I figured to spend evenings at the pool at the Yosemite View Hotel at the El Portal gate. I was shooting late in the evening a few days into the job when a guy wandered up and said "Are you Tom? Everyone said you are the guy I need to talk to." It was John Branch from the NY Times. We had a long chat and he took a lot of notes as I talk kinda fast when I speak about climbing. He left and next morning there was an article on the front page of the paper, quoting me and giving my ElCap Report contact information.
BOOM! It started! I awoke to emails from every conceivable network and news organization on the planet. They all came to me and suddenly I was the single information source for media, hungry for interviews and pictures. The requests always started the same... Hey Tom how are you doing? This is whoever and we understand that you have information about.... everything!!!
They all wanted a 4 minute interview with the climbers over their cell phone. And they wanted videos and pics too... all had deadlines of some sort. Right off Tommy and Kevin said NO, we don't want to talk to anyone as we want to focus on the climbing. Great..what was I to do now? I got on the horn to my Adidas Outdoor people in LA. At first they didn't quite get it... that this thing was about to explode into a huge event. I told them point blank that if we didn't get out front on this thing that someone else would and we would be left in the dust.
Adidas Outdoor swung into action and had John Long set up to do interview requests and Ted Distel to handle the videos and still shots, and Diane Kay to route and manage the information coming from me. We quickly set up a drop box where the visual materials we had were downloaded and the media could resource anything they liked FOR FREE. That was the moment we took control of the event. I was busy like I have never been before in my life.
I would finally get to bed between midnight and 2am and get up at 4:30 or 5am to handle all the foreign requests. I would grab some junk food at the hotel store and hold up in the room doing phone interviews and directing information to LA. Fortunately, the weather got warm and the guys couldn't climb until late afternoon, so I had the entire morning to answer media requests. I would try to get out of there by noon and escape to the meadow to shoot. I grabbed a bowl of chilli at the lodge after the shooting and raced back to the room where I would do more media requests. I tried to get the report done before bed but some nights I just fell asleep in the chair and couldn't function, as I was so tired. First thing in the morning I did the Report and took important emails as I was writing it.
ABC's GMA showed up fairly early on and wanted interviews for the show and I got some TV exposure, if only for a few moments. From then on there was a line of TV media wanting to interview and tape me for this or that show. I had seen all this coming and went into my old talking mode to "Tourons at the Bridge." It worked and all the network people said I was a great interview and that I had "Great Hair!" Really! I said " you gotta be kidding me" They said that great hair was important on TV!!! Ha, Ha, I laughed until I was almost sick!!
Anyway, the ElCap Report exploded too and that fed the frenzy. I got to saying, in answer to requests... read the days report first and if you have further questions I will answer them.
The story got better and better with the trials and tribulations of Kevin and the support of Tommy. It was NOT a slow media time. The day of the story of the Paris killings and the plane crash took our story off the front pages and it languished for a time.. but it was a long running story and I knew the media would be back, in time, because it was the only "feel good story" in the news. Sure enough they came back and went even more viral.. you know the rest.
One of the reporters from a San Jose paper, Lisa Fernandez, sent me a note after the story had finished, with the subject line. Do you know why this was such a big story? The message said "Because of you! You had good interviews and you had information available FREE to all the media and you kept the story alive" I was very flattered of course, but replied that the Adidas Outdoor Team did all that stuff and they were the ones who made things happen for the media. I did get some good shots and videos and Ted was able to merge them into a good video that R&I ran daily on their website. Plus I was located in an obvious place in the meadow and I was easy to talk to. The media would come to me to find out what was going on and when it would happen.
Today I am home and when I looked at my email... there was not a single message about the climb.. no requests at all! It was fun while it lasted and I was running in some fast company but that is the way these things go.. they sweep in like a storm and run their course and then sweep out just as fast as they came in. Now I am back to being an obscure photographer and blog writer. But it was some adventure... some adventure!
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Jan 17, 2015 - 10:22am PT
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I think that Captain Tom is single most influential factor in the story going global. That and the fact that we cranked out those little videos that went viral after a week, and Pulitzer Prize winning journalist John Branch got onto the story early on and ran with it. But perhaps looking at "The Send of the Century" in terms of a rock climb is missing the point, well stated in the following passage:
"A huge number of climbers will look back on the Dawn Wall Project as a specific moment in history where we were all paying attention to something special in the making. It's not a cure for cancer or ending poverty or political repression, but it is elevating our spirits in a way that is evident to any observer, on a scale that doesn't happen too often. You need not be a climber to respect years of hard work at an elite level, the resulting progress and perseverance, and the personal stories of overcoming adversity and honoring a friendship and a joint commitment to find a win for all parties. That stuff is gold on every level."
From NutAgain! Supertopo
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ryankelly
Trad climber
Bhumi
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Jan 17, 2015 - 10:40am PT
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Captain Tom! Thanks for the cool hat.
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elcap-pics
Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
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Jan 17, 2015 - 10:42am PT
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Well Chief... that was then and this is now... there are new badasses now and they deserve their time in the limelight. Times have changed and the media is all in, all the time. Had we had electronic media then those 4 you mentioned would be front and center.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2015 - 10:59am PT
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Adidas Outdoor swung into action and had John Long set up to do interview requests and Ted Distel to handle the videos and still shots, and Diane Kay to rout and manage the information coming from me. We quickly set up a drop box where the visual materials we had were downloaded and the media could resource anything they liked FOR FREE. That was the moment we took control of the event. I was busy like I have never been before in my life.
Congratulations to the core group listed above. All of you did an excellent job in helping to make this story a truly positive event.
This was the "inside story" I was hoping for.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Jan 17, 2015 - 11:09am PT
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Great thread. I spent some time trying to find some video of Tommy freeing the Dihedral Wall. Nada. What about Honnold freeing the Muir in 12 hours. Amazing! And then there's that really big one; Donini and Lowe doing their NIAD. Sure, they didn't break the big barrier but what a story! It would be nice to know more of their personal reflections. I STILL hope one of them writes something up about it. A dual dialog would be cool. Cheers to Tommy and Kevin. It's difficult to comprehend even the persistence. All of this is gem after gem for us old farts!
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Jan 17, 2015 - 11:16am PT
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To answer Ward's question a little further - remember that this narrative went on for 19 days. That's what they call in news a "developing situation." And with success never a given (Kevins struggles on pitch 15, in particular), the story took on Homeric proportions. I think it was also handled pretty humbly by all parties. Not a lot of hype - just simple reporting of the basic stuff, which didn't need goosing or embelishing.
Truly, a once in a lifetime experience for all involved. I felt honored to be part of it. But as I said previously, none of this really catches fire like it did without Tom shooting from the meadow and Ted Distel chugging out those little vids that went viral. And once Branch/NYT got on board, we had lift-off.
JL
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two-shoes
Trad climber
Auberry, CA
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Jan 17, 2015 - 11:35am PT
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I saw a small segment on TV where they were asking a little 4 or 5 year old girl, who was at a climbing gym, what it was all about(these guys climbing the world's hardest climb), and she said, " They love em so much because they climbed all the way to the top!"
She was pretty f'in cute!
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Jan 17, 2015 - 12:27pm PT
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Although the news media is so much more sophisticated now a similar thing occurred when Kamps and Rearick climbed the Diamond on Longs Peak in the early 1960s. They received a ticker-tape parade through Estes Park, were written up and misquoted in Time Magazine (Rearick: "We burned our bridges behind us."), and I think the NYTimes and a number of other prominent newspapers had front page articles.
Dave had just received a PhD in math from Cal Tech and that reflected a US commitment to science, particularly the space race. He had applied for a position at CU in Boulder a year or so before and had not gotten a reply. After all the publicity CU contacted him with an offer which he accepted, retiring in the early 1990s.
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chill
climber
between the flat part and the blue wobbly thing
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Jan 17, 2015 - 03:31pm PT
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Tom - your tale of the buildup of the media circus reminded me of one of my favorite old movies, "Ace in the Hole", starring Kirk Douglass. Luckily the outcome for DW was better (and Tommy's wife didn't stab you with a pair of scissors).
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Jan 17, 2015 - 04:09pm PT
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Tom,
Thanks for sharing the inside story on how it developed.
And thanks for all your work to help the media folks and promote accuracy.
Love the quote about how "great hair is important on TV"!
One key part of the equation:
why did John Branch show up that day at El Cap Meadow to look into the story?
A previous post hints that he may be a climber?
Maybe he was already in California visiting with family for the holidays?
His bio shows he was born in California, went to CU Boulder,
and was a sports reporter in Colorado Springs and Fresno before joining the New York Times.
In 2013 he won a Pulitzer Prize for his story on skiers caught in a fatal avalanche.
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/john_branch/index.html
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Jan 17, 2015 - 04:12pm PT
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I asked josh with bigupproductions the same thing, he said....
Once the NY times covered the story, everyone wanted in...
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Jan 17, 2015 - 04:39pm PT
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THE MORE INTERESTING QUESTION TO ME IS:
How fast will the Dawn Wall become teeny-tiny news?
In a week or two the vast majority (most likely more than 99%) of the "news" recipients will not be able to recall the names of the climbers or even what state the climbing occurred in.
News travels fast and disappears even faster.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jan 17, 2015 - 06:15pm PT
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hey there say, ward trotter... tom... and largo...
first, thanks for the question, warrd...
and say, tom and largo, thanks for all in the info...
tom, i remembering reading your facebook post when the
'sudden gust of all this' hit you, :))
you all were great, and right place right time, too...
the climbers of course, did a great job--for this
perfect timed climb...
it all just settled into a nice 'gem in a ring' ...
:)
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elcap-pics
Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
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Jan 17, 2015 - 06:33pm PT
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It doesn't matter if the story is gone in a week... it had its moment in the sun and the world got to watch something uplifting and wonderful for a time, in a world covered in blood and death. We all needed a breather from all that horror.
For me it was very difficult for a time, due to continuous demands made on me, coupled with a terrible diet, little sleep, and the photographic demands. Most of the time I was shooting it was really cold and I had lost my tolerance for it in the Alps in 69, when caught in a terrible storm. Most evenings I had a hard exhaustion buzzzz going and felt sick to my stomach. I just hoped I could get up in the morning and go again.
I worked hard because I felt an obligation to Adidas, who were paying my expenses and because of Tommy and Kevin... I wanted to give them the best I had in explaining the story, as I knew and admired both of them. I also wanted ElCap to get the respect that I have always felt it deserved in the history of the sport. This was not like my regular spring and fall gigs where we hang at the Bridge or in the meadow and mostly talk sh#t and lay around with a Cobra or two.
Also I had just been taken on by Adidas Outdoor and I didn't want to let them down or have them think poorly of me. I had not signed up for any of this media stuff... just to take some shots and a few videos of the climb. That would turn out to be the easy part!
Now I must admit to feeling a deep sense of pride as a result of the experience... like the climbers themselves... I had manned up and gotten the job done... not as a young man full of energy, but a geezer at 70. And I had spent 20 years out there shooting and learning about ElCap and here I was given this one last chance to show what I was made of... Our little team of 4 or so people had gotten out ahead of the story and made a big impact on the direction it went. We ended up being the "mouse that roared!!"
My aim was to show the world that the character, integrity , and tenacity of the men was, as, or more important than, the numbers on each pitch. That is what turned the story for me and I told that to every interviewer I spoke to. My emphasis on these characteristics was, I believe, what elevated the story to a higher level, as opposed to just stating the numbers and climbing ability of the men. In the ECR I could get in the details that climbers wanted to read about with the shots I took. Probably, more than anything I have ever done in this sport, I will be remembered for these 19 days, and I didn't want anything to go wrong. I was never anything more than an average climber with more tenacity than skill, a fact that my detractors like to throw in my face from time to time. I never claimed to be anything but an average climber. This was a different deal!
Blah, blah, blah... and that is the way it was... the inside story ... they say we all are tested in life, but not at the time or in the way we expect. I was tested and I came through... it doesn't get any better than that for me. I used to tell my students, "A job well done is its own reward" and it was for me.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Jan 17, 2015 - 06:37pm PT
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It doesn't matter if the story is gone in a week... it had its moment in the sun and the world got to watch something uplifting and wonderful for a time, in a world covered in blood and death. We all needed a breather from all that horror.
Fair enough.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jan 17, 2015 - 06:39pm PT
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Tom Evans
It doesn't matter if the story is gone in a week... it had its moment in the sun and the world got to watch something uplifting and wonderful for a time, in a world covered in blood and death. We all needed a breather from all that horror.
For me it was very difficult for a time, due to continuous demands made on me, coupled with a terrible diet, little sleep, and the photographic demands. Most of the time I was shooting it was really cold and I had lost my tolerance for it in the Alps in 69, when caught in a terrible storm. Most evenings I had a hard exhaustion buzzzz going and felt sick to my stomach. I just hoped I would get up in the morning and go again.
I worked hard because I felt an obligation to Adidas, who were paying my expenses and because of Tommy and Kevin... I wanted to give them the best I had in explaining the story, as I knew and admired both of them. I also wanted ElCap to get the respect that I have always felt it deserved in the history of the sport. This was not like my regular spring and fall gigs where we hang at the Bridge or in the meadow and mostly talk sh#t and lay around with a Cobra or two.
Also I had just been taken on by Adidas Outdoor and I didn't want to let them down or have them think poorly of me. I had not signed up for any of this media stuff... just to take some shots and a few videos of the climb. That would turn out to be the easy part!
Now I must admit to feeling a deep sense of pride as a result of the experience... like the climbers themselves... I had manned up and gotten the job done... not as a young man full of energy, but a geezer at 70. And I had spent 20 years out there shooting and learning about ElCap and here I was given this one last chance to show what I was made of... Our little team of 4 or so people had gotten out ahead of the story and made a big impact on the direction it went. We ended up being the "mouse that roared!!"
My aim was to show the world that the character, integrity , and tenacity of the men was, as, or more important than, the numbers on each pitch. That is what turned the story for me and I told that to every interviewer I spoke to. My emphasis on these characteristics was I believe what elevated the story to a higher level as opposed to just stating the numbers and climbing ability of the men. In the ECR I could get in the details that climbers wanted to read about with the shots I took. Probably, more than anything I have ever done in this sport, I will be remembered for these 19 days, and I didn't want anything to go wrong. I was never anything more than an average climber with more tenacity than skill, a fact that my detractors like to throw in my face from time to time. I never claimed to be anything but an average climber.
Blah, blah, blah... and that is the way it was... the inside story ... they say we all are tested in life, but not at the time or in the way we expect. I was tested and I came through... it doesn't get any better than that for me.
HELL YA! ^
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jan 17, 2015 - 07:14pm PT
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I still like the Wall of the Early Morning Light. . .
it just has a nicer ring to it.
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Jan 17, 2015 - 07:36pm PT
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Yea it's interesting to see how big this climb has become in relation to other climbs to the media and general public, compared to how big this climb is compared to other climbs to climbers.
In the ny times article the climbers were quoted saying "I think the larger audiences conception is that we're thrill seekers out there for an adrenaline rush. We really aren't at all. It's about spending our lives in these beautiful places and forming these incredible bonds." The other said "I hope it inspires others to find their own Dawn Wall."
What do other's Dawn Walls look like? Becoming a teacher in a poor urban environment? Becoming a student who is born into poverty (more than half of public school children in the US!) and tries to fight their way out of poverty? Maybe others also do it for the "incredible bonds"?
In the context of human existence, are we really sure that our view of ourselves and our accomplishments and glory isn't more accurately reflected by the general public's perception of the thrill of seeking adrenaline? Maybe it's just not a belief that we like, so we just don't believe it. Nice view from there. Maybe the media is as accurate to us as we are to ourselves. Praise Jesus!
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Jan 17, 2015 - 08:03pm PT
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Some stories are telling a bigger story. This isn't just about this one climb or Tommy Caldwell and Kevin Jorgensen. This is a herald of the epics of Yosemite's golden age. It is the story that tells America what climbing really means. It calls attention to the epic history being made. It's about Tom Evans. It's about Lynn. And Alex and Libby and Mayan. And a lot more. Of course you all already know this.
P.s. And it's about Werner and Locker, too. Without a doubt.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Jan 17, 2015 - 08:14pm PT
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I was at the rock gym with my son, Sasha and his buddy Barack. Barack is a year older and Sasha really feels the brotherly competition. Well Sasha wanted to gloat a little because he thinks that he's better.
Barack's mom and I were actively talking about the climbing team on The Free Dawn Wall. Without pause I just asked the boys if they knew what it takes to do great climbs?
"Strength" they both said.
"A good team mate." I said.
"Did you know that one of the climbers waited a week for his team mate to get strong enough to catch up?"
" A week!" They both said.
God I love kids.
Today is Mohamed Ali's Birthday and I read that "Ali is today widely regarded for the skills he displayed in the ring plus the values he exemplified outside of it: religious freedom, racial justice and the triumph of principle over expedience."
" The triumph of principle over expedience." Nice.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Jan 17, 2015 - 08:36pm PT
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Good topic, and Great inside story details, Tom and Largo.
I have to say, I was quite amazed at how big this story got in the mainstream media. Yes this achievement was fantastic, but IMHO, lots of climbers do fantastic things all the time, in all the climbing realms. Usually, no one cares about it but other climbers.
This got so big that my sister, who only watches the local news in their small town, sent me a text message about what an amazing thing this was. I don't think she had any idea of why it was great, but the media told her it was great so she assumed it would be important to me because I climb.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Jan 17, 2015 - 09:36pm PT
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When "good news" like this make the headlines and mainstream, it's a big deal. This was and is a big deal. We need more good news like this.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Jan 17, 2015 - 11:11pm PT
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A debt of gratitude to Capt Tom for his work and persistence in bringing the story to the world. I read the Dawn Wall El Cap Reports daily, what a wild ride it was. Thank you sir.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jan 17, 2015 - 11:21pm PT
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One thing this climb did do was bring the focus of the world climbing community back again to Yosemite Valley as a place where standards of absolute difficulty are established. And how!
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duncan
climber
London, UK
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Jan 18, 2015 - 01:09am PT
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Fascinating stuff. Thanks especially to Tom and Largo for their insights. Tom, I hope Adidas paid you with more than beer (and a nifty looking new down jacket)! The message was extremely well delivered as this has been a remarkably accurate and positive depiction of climbing in the mass media.
I had lots of lay friends and work colleagues asking me about El Capitan, and my offspring insisted sleeping on my portaledge at home, respect at last!
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