ED Hartuni is optimisitic about educating dumb ST users

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crunch

Social climber

Dec 20, 2014 - 01:11pm PT

Huge thanks to Ed for his patience and perseverance here, posting thoughtful content.

And yes, in person Ed is fun and engaging and all smiles.

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber

Livermore, CA

Dec 20, 2014 - 01:35pm PT

I went to UC Berkeley and obtained a BA in Physics

then to Columbia U. obtaining a MPhil, MSci and PhD

my dissertation was in Experimental High Energy Physics...

I taught Physics at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst for 9 years
then came to LLNL for the past 20 years, expanding my interests and investigations

I'm married to a plant ecologist who was a classical history major when we met at Cal
and our child is a biochemist

my father was a physical chemist/solid state physicist

my maternal great grand mother had a mechanical aptitude (all the male aspects of that side of the family were rather transient and largely unknown to me), I still use tools from her tool box

that should put it all in perspective

neebee

Social climber

calif/texas

Dec 20, 2014 - 01:51pm PT

hey there say, ed... i can't do this now... but someday...
wish i could just talk to you a bit...

my daddy took physics... he wanted me to, and i tried... it was interesting, but i was too slow... never pursued it...

i wish to understand more about how my daddy thought...
perhaps someday, talking to those that love or have taught physics, might help... well, just a thought, as i just read that you taught this... :)

wstmrnclmr

Trad climber

Bolinas, CA

Dec 20, 2014 - 05:21pm PT

Thanks Ed!

crankster

Trad climber

Dec 20, 2014 - 05:30pm PT

I only understand about half of what Ed says, but if he's got rick summer shook up it must be all good.

Jaybro

Social climber

Wolf City, Wyoming

Dec 20, 2014 - 05:41pm PT

, how brilliant! I see you do not know the motive of my post.

I do! Winters are long cold and windy in Laramie and you like yanking on Ed's chain!

Swami Jr.

Trad climber

Bath, NY

Dec 20, 2014 - 06:05pm PT

Ed Hartouni is one of the reasons I still check in at Supertopo. He is bright, diverse, and seemingly cool as hell, though I've never met him.

Go Ed!

coolrockclimberguy69

climber

Dec 20, 2014 - 06:35pm PT

ED Hartuni

optimisitic

dumb ST users

zBrown

Ice climber

Brujò de la Playa

Dec 21, 2014 - 07:38am PT

I like Doc Hartouni. He's smart, thinks about what he says before he says it. Likes music. Likes people. Likes climbing. Likes the Earth.

I wonder if he skiis? I can't recall him ever talking about it.

I am waiting for his first completely off the wall post, just to shake things up, but you know physicists, they've got a thing about predictability. On the other hand, they are not intimidated by time, so who knows.

That's time running along the bottom axis, the rest is secret physicist code. Where is Fourier when you need him?

kev

climber

A pile of dirt.

Dec 21, 2014 - 10:42am PT

dingleberry mc hick sure does come across as someone who should be wearing the dunce cap and sitting in the corner...

Chiloe

Trad climber

Lee, NH

Dec 21, 2014 - 10:50am PT

It seems everyone who's met Ed, and many who haven't, are speaking up here to confirm he's a solid guy, honest and widely interested in the world. A fun guy to climb or just talk with; someone who has accomplished a great deal with his life.

Perhaps Dingus McGee's friends should speak up here with similar words about him. This thread he started sure makes a bad impression.

kennyt

Trad climber

Oregon

Dec 21, 2014 - 11:46am PT

He may be wasting his time.

kennyt

Trad climber

Oregon

Dec 21, 2014 - 12:00pm PT

Hey moose I sent you an email

Dingus McGee

Social climber

Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2014 - 01:50pm PT

Chiloe,

I will fill in here for an impression you seemed to have failed to submit[notice?] when you said:

This thread he started sure makes a bad impression

...Of some ST posters who have a lack of reading comprehension and a lack of the ability to make consistant critical thinking assessments about people.

I really did get the gem I was hoping for in my motive for posting this thread.

Ron Gomez gets a zero in his ability to do critical reflective thinking when he said:

Be smart enough not to think that if someone doesn't have your opinion, you or other's are considered dumb. Ed's not dumb enough to not listen to other opinions, I wouldn't consider myself "smart", but I've had the pleasure of talking with Ed and enjoyed giving and listening to each other's views on whatever the subject.
Ed and others have their opinion, experience and education....so do you dingus, respect it and move on.
Peace

I then condensed this: Be smart enough not to think that if someone doesn't have your opinion, ... respect it and move on.

Surely his advise if used on me must be applicable to ED? That is, could Ed have respect for the deniers opinions and move on? We have yet to see this.

I see no where in this text that I criticized ED. So in the end I got here on my own, I seek no help from friends and I can keep my head while others all round are losing theirs. No honest spears have been thrown, it is like approaching the hen house. A lot of cackling.

Wisdom for today: Your worst days climbing are better than when your posts on ST are misunderstood creating the cackling you like.

led 6 pitches at Guernsey State Park while this went on.

Chiloe

Trad climber

Lee, NH

Dec 21, 2014 - 02:09pm PT

I will fill in here for an impression you seemed to have failed to submit[notice?] when you said:

After this latest proclamation my impression remains what it was, this thread was brought to us by internet assholiness. What Supertopo needs so much more of.

Ed has described his own motives many times. They aren't what you are projecting on him here.

Dingus McGee

Social climber

Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2014 - 02:17pm PT

Chiloe,

big boy it looks like you are unable to address the just of my post... and have resorted to using implied labeling. Can't you say what you mean?

Never mind if you are too lame.

WBraun

climber

Dec 21, 2014 - 02:23pm PT

Just what is your real intention here Dingus?

It's not real clear, or are you playing devils advocate on these guys.

If you're pissing off Chiloe and Gomez then you're doing something wrong.

They don't deserve that.

These are good guys.

WTF are you really up too here?

Make it clear and stop trying upset these guys .....

Dingus McGee

Social climber

Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace

Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2014 - 02:33pm PT

WBraun,

I am bouncing back to them a similar form of treatment and judgement that they used on me.

And it seems they can't take it.

Now, the kettle called the pot black: