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mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 16, 2014 - 03:00pm PT
I purchased these for an expedition to Turdlockenstan.

However, there was no pro on our route for the entire 79 pitches so these babies are brand new.


2 Knifeblades (Japanese) 3" blade, 4.5" overall.
1 Angle (Russian) 1" thick, 4.75" to the eye, 6.5" overall.

PM me any offers.
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Dec 16, 2014 - 04:16pm PT
Bump
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Dec 16, 2014 - 05:21pm PT
Not even a txt, guy?

You are so out of my estate planning.

I still need Turdlockable gear, guy!
mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2014 - 05:33pm PT
Munge I will be in the hood tomorrow, let me know.


Doing gud Dingus, how is the 4x4 doing this winter?
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Dec 16, 2014 - 06:15pm PT
Those Ti pins scare me. Have a few. Good for aid but seems a decent fall would break the biner; the eyes are pretty sharp.
Bill Mc Kirgan

Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Dec 16, 2014 - 06:45pm PT
Seriously the edge of the eye of a titanium piton could break a carabiner in a fall?

How is that Johntp?
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Dec 16, 2014 - 07:20pm PT
Anyone other than me remember anything about a recall on those blades? IIRC it had to do with the temper or some such. I do remember a story about one shattering under hammer blows.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Dec 16, 2014 - 07:35pm PT
I have no scientific evidence, but the eyes are pretty thin. Seems like there would be a lot of stress on the biner. Maybe someone smarter than I can post up.
Bill Mc Kirgan

Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Dec 16, 2014 - 07:45pm PT
I'm guessing too about that possibility of breakage or shearing. Titanium is tough and if the edge of the clipping eye is not rounded over perhaps it could cut an aluminum carabiner in a big fall.

That being said/speculated I think those pins look cool and I wish I could make an offer.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Dec 16, 2014 - 07:58pm PT
Bill- sent you a PM
Bill Mc Kirgan

Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Dec 17, 2014 - 03:59am PT
Hey Johntp,

I didn't get your personal message, but thanks for saying you sent one.

You can email me at:
bill_mckirgan AT msn DOT com




More proof the PM feature doesn't work in Tacoland??
Bill Mc Kirgan

Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Jan 27, 2015 - 08:49am PT
Johntp,

I received something in the mail yesterday and now feel like I am on the road to ruin.

Thanks for the pin to satisfy my curiosity.

I know you were not selling it but I want to send you a different kind of pin or relic in return as a way of saying thanks for your generosity.

It won't be much, and if you do not like it you can pass it along to someone you know would.

Thanks,
Bill


38.7898041,-90.0178124
Bill Mc Kirgan

Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Jan 31, 2015 - 08:34am PT
bump
and I know about the hammer...
i needed a bigger hammer


50lb vice (no harm was done to the vice)



Titanium carabiner nailed into Norway maple. The tree is dying and this branch was chopped years ago to protect the home. It made for some firm nailing. I had to switch to the 5lb hammer to plant it.



The hanger tab of the pin bent like this during the first drop test. The weight was dropped from above on a 4' dyneema sling. The last drop was done with an overhand knot in the sling to see if that would break, and it held.


This retired carabiner has groove worn in it from use as a top rope anchor, but the scratch marks are fresh from the drop test.

It seems to be solid, but I suppose I could have used a heavier weight. I appreciate the opportunity to test this and thank John for the gift. It will now be something I practice hauling setups with in the back yard when it's not supporting a bird feeder.

--Bill
crunch

Social climber
CO
Jan 31, 2015 - 08:50am PT
You're on the road to ruin, better pick a more serious vice.
crøtch

climber
Jan 31, 2015 - 09:57am PT
I have used those same pins. In a vertical placement like you used in your test, I'd place it with the hanger up and clip the lightening hole rather than the hanger. I use the hanger for horizontal placements.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jan 31, 2015 - 10:02am PT
Bill- Sweet!
Bill Mc Kirgan

Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Jan 31, 2015 - 10:51am PT
Thanks crøtch

I get doing that as a way to not deform the hanger part of the piton for real life use.





fun stuff...I will try with 3x the weight when it gets really cold out



thanks John

--late edit

You're on the road to ruin, better pick a more serious vice.
Funny Crunch. Anything to keep the neighbors guessing is good.




crunch

Social climber
CO
Jan 31, 2015 - 11:02am PT
I have used those same pins. In a vertical placement like you used in your test, I'd place it with the hanger up and clip the lightening hole rather than the hanger. I use the hanger for horizontal placements.

Yup. Same here.

I like titanium angles. Have a bunch of them. Partly out of laziness, they weight so much less than steel. Work fine, even if less robust than the steel versions. Bite nicely in softer rock. Nice having the option of the extra holes to clip for tied off placements.



What happened to the knife blades? They still for sale?
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Feb 4, 2015 - 06:50pm PT
bump. Bill, received your fact. Many thanks and much appreciation.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Feb 4, 2015 - 07:59pm PT
Blades be gone to a good home. :)

Crotch, thx for the call out on usage.
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