When does OT become so far off that it doesn't belong?

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clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Dec 17, 2014 - 03:59pm PT
Yup.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Dec 17, 2014 - 04:02pm PT
independent individualistic thought is being heavily monitored and squashed in our society by ones who wish to control and enslave


rock climbers tend to be strong independent intelligent individuals, which makes it worthwhile to participate in discussions on SuperTopo

I totally appreciate your voice TomCochrane though I may have harshed an idea or two of yours over time. I read your posts when you have the time to make them (though not all your links, I'm kinda funny that way)

DMT
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Dec 17, 2014 - 07:32pm PT
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some more randome OT stuff!
I love this thread!!
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Dec 19, 2014 - 10:01am PT
^^^

Now that made me laugh Bruce. Considerng all the crap I am going through right now here in Ireland, I love your comment, it has lightened up my day.

Cheers

Patrick
neversummer

climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
Dec 19, 2014 - 10:18am PT
Credit: neversummer
Chief

climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
Dec 19, 2014 - 10:44am PT
Chris,

Specifically, do blatantly political threads like "Why Republicans are wrong..." belong on SuperTopo?
To answer the question specifically; I don't think so.

Defining what's off topic on ST is a hard question that only the people who started and attempt to manage this forum can determine.

The strictest position would be that if it's not about climbing, it's too far off topic.
That would unfortunately eliminate a lot of often provocative and sometimes enlightening discourse.

Supertopo has "schooled" me on the pitfalls of communicating in cyberspace and I think I'm for the most part, a better communicator for the lessons.

We all have differing ideas of where the line between free speech and tasteless vitriol might be.
I think there's far too much that's clearly on the wrong side of the line around this virtual campfire and we'd never get away with such behaviour if we really were standing around a campfire.

Our societies have over the millennia developed the rule of law and true democracy and free speech are guided by this concept.
I think ST would benefit from a code of conduct and clear limits on language and unseemly discourse.

Respect.

PB
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Dec 19, 2014 - 11:07am PT
This thread reminds me of that famous line: "If you have to ask what it costs, you can't afford it."

If you have to ask the OP question, then you can't afford the "answer."

The "development" of this thread affords "the answer."

(I surmise that CMac just executed one of the most classic trolls on these forums. Eventually even he's bored with it.)
Walleye

climber
The Hot Kiss on the end of a Wet Fist
Dec 19, 2014 - 11:13am PT
TomCochrane seems to be a wise man. One of the few from this place I would like to know in person. (we actually have met a long time ago).

The most powerful word in the negation is no and it's how I choose to engage in these forums when people seemingly transmogrify into as#@&%es. And, there is scarcely a thread where this transformation does not happen. I just never feel the need to point out in a public forum who I think the as#@&%es are.

I say leave it the forum the way it is. There are a few people here whom I learn from on a wide range of topics.

All a person has to do is leave the ego behind and say no to his or her self instead of always feeling the need to make an opinion stick by personally attacking another poster through belittlement and name calling. If something is off-topic and doesn't interest you; just say no and don't engage in it. It all seems so simple. Self control is a virtue to aspire to. If you don't feed something it usually dies!

This is just like, my opinion, man.
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Dec 19, 2014 - 12:07pm PT
Defining what's off topic on ST is a hard question that only the people who started and attempt to manage this forum can determine.

Or with a "Hide Thread" button everyone could determine for themselves. ;D
jgill

Boulder climber
Colorado
Dec 26, 2014 - 02:13pm PT
The only thing that bugs me about ST - an enduring feature of the internet - is the occasional complete anonymity of posters. In particular regarding religious or political rants, when not only do the posters conceal their name but they offer no evidence they were or are climbers - not even a photo of themselves on the rock or ice. But others here may differ and welcome a larger variety of opinion than is found in the climbing community.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Dec 26, 2014 - 02:23pm PT
Werner for Secretary of State. So much better than Kerry.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 26, 2014 - 02:47pm PT
+1 for jgill

Some minimal amount of climbing content would be nice along with all the anonymous psuedo-intellectual masterbation.

Rob Stahl
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 26, 2014 - 03:18pm PT
+1+1 for JGill.

High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Dec 26, 2014 - 03:46pm PT
all the anonymous psuedo-intellectual masterbation...

The only thing that bugs me about ST... is the occasional complete anonymity of posters. In particular regarding religious or political rants, when not only do the posters conceal their name but they offer no evidence they were or are climbers - not even a photo of themselves on the rock...

+3.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Dec 26, 2014 - 04:15pm PT
all the anonymous psuedo-intellectual masterbation...

The only thing that bugs me about ST... is the occasional complete anonymity of posters. In particular regarding religious or political rants, when not only do the posters conceal their name but they offer no evidence they were or are climbers - not even a photo of themselves on the rock...

+3.

+4
I only lurk n laugh at those topics,
but I'm with you fellers.
MikeL

Social climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 27, 2014 - 04:59am PT
Chris McNamara: Specifically, do blatantly political threads like "Why Republicans are wrong..." belong on SuperTopo?

There is the topic of climbing, and there is the community that climbs. The topic of climbing is fairly monolithic and singular. We know what climbing is and isn’t. But the community is varied, and it has many different personality facets that would be exposed around a campfire. If you were to limit community conversations to only one topic, people would get bored. We’d all turn in. Conversations range. Communities and language cannot be caged.

I may be wrong, but the climbing community seems educated, experienced, technically oriented, progressive, and travelled. IMO, they seem to favor democratic sensibilities. It seems that many people here think that Republicans are wrong. The size of that thread and its longevity suggest that it was a very popular topic—and that would make it relevant to the community.

EDIT: I forgot to add that it's a rough crowd.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Dec 27, 2014 - 05:09am PT
^^^The only thing I liked about that thread is that it kept political rants and squabbles, that would otherwise spawn more OT threads, contained to one thread.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Dec 27, 2014 - 06:25am PT
I have a confession to make. Sometimes even when out climbing with others, we talk all day long, when the climbing allows, but don't discus climbing.
From now on, I swear as a climber, to only talk about climbing.

with deepest regret,
Jon Cochran

Larry Nelson

Social climber
Dec 27, 2014 - 08:24am PT
Hey, I climbed that Lowenbrau route about 15 years ago. Played around on the wobbly, curving flake around the corner to the right. Wrote some flip, now embarrassing remark, about the cold winter wind, in the cairn on top...sigh.

But I really appreciate all of the input on this website. With such varied backgrounds and strong opinions amongst climbers, there's a bit of everything. I click and read what I want and don't take opinions personal.
FWIW: I do think that less anonymity would tone down the harshness.

Edit:
Hey, thanks Dave. I have that diagram somewhere on my bookshelf, but I am now out of country.
Amazing how much good granite is in East County.
I think the tone of this thread is good, and even has some climbing stuff...LMAO
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Dec 27, 2014 - 08:56am PT
Or with a "Hide Thread" button everyone could determine for themselves. ;D

and "deleting" a few idiots doesn't suck either...

Credit: nature
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