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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 5, 2014 - 10:18pm PT
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This is a great topic. Not easy. Maybe you can nominate one band. I offer my nomination. They don't have the highest album sales, but are close.
For me, this band represents the finest that America has ever done. Soulful hits, extreme talent, unique artistry, worldwide appeal, positive vibrations, american melting pot at its highest ideal.
My nomination
Santana
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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GWARGWARGWARGWAR
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2014 - 10:28pm PT
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The ol' U S of A. No Rush, Queen, Zep etc.
Props for NWA.
Larry , who is that?
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2014 - 10:44pm PT
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Pick one. Aerosmith has the highest sales and have been around almost as long. Then again it's soundtracks and they don't have the worldwide appeal. Or would you prefer Creedence?Not my choices for personal tastes. But I'm here to listen to opinions,
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Best American band was mostly Canadian, why of course The Band!
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2014 - 10:59pm PT
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Tuolumne Tradster. You're a man of my tastes with that nomination. The Allmans tied for #2 for me with Skynyrd. The Allman's are better but I couldn't bet against Freebird. And my roots are in Bama.
The answers show a regional preference I think. Mine do.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"Larry , who is that?"
Loverboy. Ron's got their poster on his ceiling.
(They're Canadian...disqualified from this thread)
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Flip Flop: I'm a Cali native, so Allman Bros is not a regional preference for me. I just luved the hard drivin' double drummers and incredible guitar playing by Duane & Dickey Betts. Saw them live at Fillmore SF in 1971. Believe it or not, they were not the top bill that night...Mark Almond Band was. In memory of Elizabeth Reed, Blue Sky, and Whippin' Post to name a few of my favorite tunes.
Here's a local SF Bay Area band that I listened to in my formative years. Anybody remember these guys?
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Mr Mister
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Has everyone forgotten about a dude named Hendrix?
Apart from him there's CCR, the Eagles. Aerosmith was solid early then descended into deep schmalz.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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While Hendrix was born in Seattle, he the Experience was from England. But Band of Gypsies was, of course, all American.
Picking the best band is kinda like picking the best rock climber--I've seen a bunch of bands hit "10." Some folks are gonna say Michael Jackson, others will say The Grateful Dead. Is anybody right, or wrong?
But those guys, well they're dead.
So how about something we can act upon, like Your Favorite Current American Rock Band.
One of the best shows I've seen was Lucinda Williams.
And don't forget moe.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Still going with Tool.
Though Primus is up there.
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Gearhead
Trad climber
Novato Ca
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R.A.M.O.N.E.S RAMONES!!!!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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The best American rock bands that I'm aware of are the pegmatite dikes in the Black Canyon. Usually spicy gear there that keeps you focused.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Metallica and it is not even close.
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Buck Wilde
Boulder climber
Oregon
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Steely Dan.
...(end of thread)
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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One of my faves not mentioned Van Halen.
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Norton
Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
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The Usual Suspects
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Carlos Santana is from Mexico.
The Band, but too many Canadians?
The Cars
Velvet Underground
Allman Bros.
Doors
but, best
Grateful Dead
Most impactful:
Bob Dylan & The Band
Neil Young & Crazy Horse
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Donini got me thinking...
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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millbrook mnt in the Gunks is right up there with any band of Rock!,
stones suck but have persevered.
The kinks do they get a nod or not 'merican so no
Jerry and the boys but are they Rock? Gratefully not
Scorpions?
Slayer?
Ted nugent
Molly Hatchett?
Skynnard?
zz Top?
Allman brothers band ... is again soft rock?
Frank Zappa!,
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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yes I am weak sauce in the great hard hard rock bands but Stevie ...^ ^ ^!!
I should have said that
George Thurogood and The Destroyers?
man it is just not
German death metal enough
if I could go Punk?
Bad Brains,
Stimulators
Spring House,
Ramones ((hmmm, I sort a think of them as Hard Core but... Wanna Be Sedated?))
punk is ...LOUD FAST RULES! no rules or style play and die at the same time
Rock is the fusion of various styles, with melody, lyrics and STYLE.(Panache')
MH2 ?? you have not weighed in?!
oh yeah I forgot
kill this st00pid no climbing thread!
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Shiprock is a lamprophyre, so that
radial dike is definitely a hard
rock band
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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The Mother of invention
Then anything SRV was in.
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skitch
climber
East of Heaven
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R! A! M! O! N! E! S!
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wbw
Trad climber
'cross the great divide
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Steve Ray . . what a badass.
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Saw Zappa at the circle star theater in San Mateo back in the 70s. A truely
remarkable performance. It was early rock jazz fusion.
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MisterE
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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There is no one right answer to this question.
Except The Melvins.
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Ezra Ellis
Trad climber
North wet, and Da souf
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Always liked Bruce Springsteen,
Although jimmy Hendrix was the most talented, imo!
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2014 - 10:07pm PT
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Clarifications:
1. Band not Rockstar. So Hendrix, Stevie Ray and Bruce are out. Bruce is way out.
2. Santana is a band formed in California.
3. Scorpions are from Germany.
4. Metallica sucks while sucking at sucking. F*#k those guys and their pouty pouts. Larger pussies have never been seen. They should be german scheisse porn slaves.
Maybe they rock but they got no Roll.
5. Los Lobos is a strong wildcard.
6. Who is Tool?
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Carlos Santana was actually formed deep in Mexico and The Santana Blues Band was formed in California somewhere near San Francisco sometime near 1966. When and where the name was changed is still a matter of speculation.
So Blue Cheer takes it by a nod.
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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Oh yeahh...Janis' performance at the Monterey Pop in 1967 blew everyone away. Just check out Mama Cass completely stunned in the audience watching Janis.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Ezra Ellis
Trad climber
North wet, and Da souf
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allright then, Bruce Springsteen and the E street band???
😆
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The Mayor
Social climber
Billings, Montana USA
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rmuir
Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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The Mayor
Social climber
Billings, Montana USA
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SicMic
climber
across the street from Marshall
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The Tubes.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Frank Sinatra.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Musicians all:
Booker T. and th MG's
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters
Duane Eddy & The (Phil Spector) Wrecking Crew
King Curtis (though he played with just about everybody in early rock'n'roll) and The Kingpins
Honorable mention:
Love
The Seeds
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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So too did The Monkees
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2014 - 08:28pm PT
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Is it safe to say that America can do better?
To better days
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P.s. Someone accused me of promoting whitey. First of all, Santana is the most diverse band on the list. Second, if you want to nominate the JB's or PFunk or NWA or the Commodores or the Funk Brothers then don't let me stop you.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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best American band?
1. Frank Zappa's band, circa 1979
2. Frank Zappa's band, circa 1980-81
3. Frank Zappa's band, circa 1981-82
4. Frank Zappa's band, circa 1977-78
5. Frank Zappa's band's guitar and drum technicians, anytime
6. Frank Zappa's band's roadies, Tinseltown Rebellion tour (European leg)
seriously. if you think [insert band X here] is the "better" American band, you're crazy. Any Frank Zappa band would destroy [band X] in a battle of the bands, playing Band X's own songs.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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best American band?
1. Frank Zappa's band, circa 1979
2. Frank Zappa's band, circa 1980-81
3. Frank Zappa's band, circa 1981-82
4. Frank Zappa's band, circa 1977-78
5. Frank Zappa's band's guitar and drum technicians, anytime
6. Frank Zappa's band's roadies, Tinseltown Rebellion tour (European leg)
Um...you forgot Zappa's best band: The Mothers of Invention
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Back on topic, the best American Rock Band is...
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Certainly without the musical prowess of Frank Zappa, or Stevie Ray or Jimi H or even Santana (isn't Carlos Mexican?), however there is something about this band that really seemed to capture an era.
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tornado
climber
lawrence kansas
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Geez...Everybody knows it the Monkees.
No seriously....The Beach Boys.
ZZ Top?
Alice Cooper?
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wbw
Trad climber
'cross the great divide
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Carry out this thought experiment if you believe Stevie Ray Vaughn did not play in a band (that may or not be the best American Rock band):
Imagine those searing riffs Stevie was so good at playing on his guitar, while his voice is riffing in that nothing-but-honest way, while he is accompanied by the Bee Gees. Compare those results with the way STEVIE RAY VAUGHN AND DOUBLE TROUBLE actually sounded.
Now tell me (sincerely) that Stevie Ray Vaughn was not a member of a band.
This is being posted for those that believe Jethro Tull was the best English singer.
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Inner City
Trad climber
East Bay
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Duke Ellington's Band deserves consideration and maybe Louie Armstrong's??
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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I'll offer up a few, kind of a tossup in my book:
Steely Dan circa the Royal Scam album. Some of the sickest guitar solos ever put on tape, great writing, an all star cast of studio session players bringing Fagan/Becker's vision alive. Basically Don and Walt, half the Doobie Bros (both their guitarists and the keyboard/vocalist), and other standout session players like Mr. 335, Larry Carlton. Don't Take me Alive and Kid Charlamange, both with Larry Carlton on guitar, are easily in my Top 5 tasty guitar solos. And to think he did it all with a 335, a single stompbox (MXR distortion plus), and a cranked Fender tweed era Deluxe....tone is in your fingers, man!
Allman Bros, original lineup circa Fillmore East. My single favorite guitar player, and the best live album I've ever heard...better than Frampton Comes Alive, the perennial favorite for any best live list.
Phish. Scary amount of virtuosity without transending into gratuitious wankery and noodling (mos of the time, anyway), these dudes can (and do) play anything and everything, from bluegrass to barbershop quartet to punk. BUt they are essentially a rock band with a jazz geek bent. The YEM and Antelope guitar parts, especially in the jams and circa mid 90s...holy s@#!
Velvet Underground. Not my personal favorite, but as an influence on those who followed, they were huge.
Stooges/Iggy and the Stooges. Eff the Ramones, bunch of poser clowns, frontman was an ex-miltary school kid and they generally sucked. Stooges, otoh, were the real deal. With thick, huge, thunderous, screaming sound and attitude to match, and songwriting that was miles better than anything coming out of the Ramones or NYC birth-of-punk scene in general. Raw Power is still one of my favorite albums.
Metallica is a strong contender. If their early albums weren't mixed so shitty with so little bass guitar (well, the last one too, "Death Magnetic" was horribly recorded and mastered. Levels are way up, and it's super compressed). The lack of good production and general "newness" (yeah, formed in the early 80s and they are "new"?..guess I'm getting old) rules them out. Still, the first 4 albums are still some of my very favorites to this day.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Allman Bros, original lineup circa Fillmore East. My single favorite guitar player, and the best live album I've ever heard...better than Frampton Comes Alive, the perennial favorite for any best live list.
Knew I got a good vibe from you for a reason Elcap
I'd have to agree with that 100%. With Duane Allman in the drivers seat, that was a band to be reckoned with. When Tom Dowd first heard them practicing, he asked who they were and said send them over to me; they are ready to record. He likened them more to a jazz band in that everyone would go off on their own time (but it would sound good), then all come back to whatever time the song was in at the same time. The communication among the members was that good. Stormy Monday 1971 at Filmore East version. After Duane died, the band put out one last effort (Brothers and Sisters). But it was pretty much over.
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Nibs
Trad climber
Humboldt, CA
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BEAT FARMERS!
That was a rock band.
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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ALLMAN Brothers
the best.. the most influential in every garage band across america..
NIRVANA
no words match Colbain's strings, which will lead you to Foo Fighters formed by the drummer from Nirvana
I agree with Santana and include the San Francisco band that spun from musicians in Santana's band JOURNEY
To be the best american rock band there must be staying power in musical creativity so you better go see Widespread Panic and the supergroup Hard Working Americans Dave Schools plays in both and you might recognize Duane Trucks, younger brother to Derek Trucks.
My musical crush is for Marshall Crenshaw who has set up shop after 30 years of musical genius in NYC offering music by subscription only, cutting out the middle man record company in another revolutionary act of independence.
and my favorite all time american band? have to say.. Robert Cray
because the blues in your rock and roll is truly american music
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Dec 10, 2014 - 02:36pm PT
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East Rampart at Devils Lake is America's best rock band.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Dec 10, 2014 - 04:34pm PT
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I'm probably in the Springsteen/E Street camp. Some serious guitar talent with Nils Lofgren and Lil Steven and then solid across a wide range of other instruments. And nearly unbeatable songwriting.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Dec 10, 2014 - 06:01pm PT
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Eric Clapton :)
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lars johansen
Trad climber
West Marin, CA
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Dec 10, 2014 - 06:07pm PT
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I believe EC is a Brit.
lars
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BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
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Dec 10, 2014 - 06:09pm PT
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Ghhhhwwwwwaaaaarrrrr!
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Dec 10, 2014 - 06:26pm PT
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Musically, Clapton is about as British as a Ford.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2014 - 07:05pm PT
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Locker is right. It's the Greatful Dead.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Dec 10, 2014 - 07:10pm PT
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"Greatful Dead" actually played in Berkeley around 1964 - I have it on poster.
Mike Bloomfield & The Electric Flag (directly from my friend Pat Ament).
Who is gonna argue with a band that shared the stage with
Jimi
Blue Cheer
Soft Machine
??????
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2014 - 07:14pm PT
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I always get that wrong. I'm sorry. Grateful Dead. They are hard to top.
My first dead show was on my 18th birthday. My second was with Santana. Third with Dylan. I didn't know who they were. I went to Laguna Seca to see Bruce Hornsby because I had free tickets. Good times.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Dec 10, 2014 - 07:18pm PT
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Like I said, Berkeley - be there or be square, May, 1966 but who is going to argue at $1.99.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Dec 10, 2014 - 07:29pm PT
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The Dead are dead and so is Bloomfield. If we're talking about living American Bands, then it's The White Stripes, hands down
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Dec 12, 2014 - 03:08am PT
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I never paid much attention to Frank Zappa, but thanks to Survival I've been checking out Zappa stuff while working on something else, and I can't believe how many climb names I recognize from his song titles.
And apparently Russ didn't come up with Poofter's Froth Wyoming.
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Dec 12, 2014 - 04:05am PT
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While I do think CCR is a (the?) definitive Vietnam-War-protest-era band (what a mouthfull) I can't say they are (or were) the best. In fact, I can't come close to saying who is best, there are so many good ones, who are good for so many different reasons. But I decided I do have a personal all-time-favorite:
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Dec 12, 2014 - 07:09pm PT
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Zappa = snarky music with no beauty or power
I see it differently. Zappa's canon has some really pretty stuff and some incredibly powerful material. If that's obscured by "snark", well, that's 80 percent on you and 20 percent on him.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Dec 12, 2014 - 07:36pm PT
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Respect all choices.
Right now ,the best American band ,imo,is CRACKER.
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Synchronicity
Trad climber
British Columbia, Canada
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Dec 12, 2014 - 10:39pm PT
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Although they changed lineups several times, I'd say Iron Butterfly circa Metamorphosis era, Mike Pinera, Lee Dorman, Doug Ingle, Larry "Rhino" Reinhardt, Ron bushy...
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shushamouf
Ice climber
Salt Lake City
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Dec 13, 2014 - 09:14am PT
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I can't believe for a forum full of climbers, there's not more mention of rockers who climb. Pearl Jam can more than hold their own in the best band argument, and it looks like Vedder is pretty much good for 5.9R off the couch.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Dec 15, 2014 - 10:23am PT
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I've got a soft spot for The Hold Steady. Recurrent characters, long form stories on the lives of down and outers, and a fine hand with literary alliterative lyrics.[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Dec 15, 2014 - 10:51am PT
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Have you seen them in recent years? Would you recommend it?
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Dec 15, 2014 - 10:53am PT
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I think one of the majors in the band died a few years ago.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Dec 26, 2014 - 03:46pm PT
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+1 for the Smithereens
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Dec 26, 2014 - 04:19pm PT
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Gotta plug the Dillards, highly influential bluegrass
from wikipedia
The Dillards are notable for being among the first bluegrass groups to have electrified their instruments in the mid-1960s.[3] They are considered to be one of the pioneers of the burgeoning southern California folk rock, country rock and progressive bluegrass genres, and are known to have directly or indirectly influenced artists such as The Eagles, The Byrds, and Elton John.[4] In 1972, The Dillards joined Elton John on his first American tour.[1]
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Da-Veed
Big Wall climber
Bigfork
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Dec 26, 2014 - 05:42pm PT
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Duh.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Dec 26, 2014 - 07:49pm PT
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DP&B
or Diddley Penniman Berry & Dixon. They didn't play at Woodstack.
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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Tool.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2018 - 07:43am PT
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Tool has 4 studio albums
Just okay record sales
No sex appeal
Metal is not Rock n Roll. Zero sex, Zero roll. There is no sex, love or dancing in Metal. Just uptight angry white people music. Like Metallica. Good for little agro punks with lots of dude friends.
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Farzin
climber
San Diego, CA
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I can't believe nobody mentioned CCR.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Mothers of Invention
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Weird Al Yankovich!
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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Lots of great bands. I'll go with Zappa and the Mothers.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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the idea was quality, lasting listenability and still reasonably main Stream,
Mothers Of invention, I looked for a cut, they might just make the grade.
As for Tool, ? well As good as Ween
but only a flash in the pan band with skills but. . .
I have looked, Actually seen their start, H Rollins ? that rapist? I don't think his opinion should count
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Live version , (not Woodstock)
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WBraun
climber
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Best American Rock Band?
Huh???
None of these guys know how to climb.
They're just monkeys pounding on drums and strings while screaming into the void.
Stonemasters were the real rock band .......
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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David Lee Roth, the frontman and singer from past and present for Van Halen, a heavy metal California band, has also done a bit of rock climbing. Any rocker who’s a metal freak has listened to Roth’s classic second album Skyscraper, a solo disc that came out in 1988 and features the hit single “Just Like Paradise.”
The album’s cover features Roth aid climbing on Half Dome, an iconic Yosemite Valley formation. If you look on-line you’ll find all kinds of stuff about David Lee Roth and rock climbing. But for the real story about the cover photo you have to go to the Forum on SuperTopo and read the tale by Werner Braun.
Werner Braun Tells Story of Cover Shoot
Werner Braun, a long-time Yosemite climber and member of the Yosemite Search and Rescue (YOSAR), tells the story about the album cover on Supertopo in 2005. The cover was shot by the great adventure photographer Galen Rowell.
Braun and Ron Kauk, another Yosemite climbing legend, were hired to work as riggers for the photo shoot on the top of Half Dome.
Ron Kauk and Braun Ride Roth’s Horse
The production group, including Roth, Rowell, Braun, and Kauk, went up the day before and camped at the saddle behind Half Dome. Werner Braun recalls, “His (Roth) production people got him a horse to ride to Half Dome along with all of the other equipment for this shoot. David decided he wanted to walk…so I asked if I could ride it. ‘Sure, go ahead,” he says. “I want to walk.” Kauk, running late, passed the group slogging up the trail and asked where Werner was. He’s riding David’s horse they said. So Kauk jogs up and jumps on the horse too. “As we approach towards the saddle, the horse became more and more tired, somehow it made it.”
Photographer Galen Rowell Finds Photo Location
The next day they all scrambled up to the summit for the album cover photo shoot. Werner recalls, “Galen is running around with his camera trying to figure out the best location. He spots his ace in the hole and tells Ron and me to set up David at the spot you see on that cover.” The site turns out to be “no-man’s land with very little features for anything that’ll hold. “I go, ‘WTF Galen, there’s nothing out there’ and he tells us to do the best we can. Ok man, whatever.”
Roth Scared by Bad Aid Placements
Ron Kauk lowers down and places a bunch of A4 pitons with the final piton a long medium Lost Arrow piton that sticks out about three-quarters of its length. “Ron tells me he hopes it holds David’s ass. Ha ha ha ha.” They get David Lee Roth on a rope and have him rappel down to the last piton. “He takes one look at that thing and says F*@%! I’m not hanging off that thing. It’ll pull out and I’ll die. He is now visibly shaking real bad and scared s—less.” Roth doesn’t know what to think since he has virtually no experience aid climbing.
Braun Tells Roth to “Have Faith”
Werner tells Roth that he has to have “faith in the rigger and the rigger will never lie to you.” He then tells Roth that the piton is one foot long and that seven inches of the Lost Arrow ”he’s looking at is buried in that horizontal crack to his total disbelief.” Ron, listening to the dialogue, rolled his eyes while Galen waited impatiently to start burning film. Finally David Lee Roth “gets on that thing shaking like s—.”
Roth Gives Braun and Kauk Gold-Plated Carabiners
Werner Braun remembers, “The shoot is on! David does his Hollywood mode. Smiles and all in between bouts of shakes and deep breaths. Galen shoots off his 20 or so rolls in record time and David gets his rope back from above and jugs out. I clean the piton he was on with one jerk of my hand. Kauk’s eyes roll again and we’re out of there.” After the shoot, Roth gave Kauk and Braun a gold-plated carabiner engraved with “Diamond Dave.”
Crazy and funny story. You just can’t make that stuff up! Thanks for sharing Werner Braun. – Stewart Green/climbing.about.com
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Donny... the OHHH!- Riginal
Sport climber
C:porn
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I'm sure we can all agree on "Fallout Boy"...the question is, who is the SECOND best American rock band?
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bit'er ol' guy
climber
the past
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Col "finger pickin' good" Sanders. Eddie Money and Black Flag.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Imagine Dragons is putting out a lot of rocks songs with good song writing. Can't quite compare with the old stuff, but still nice to know some youngin's still like to rock.
Greta Van Fleet is almost a Zep clone, but damn it still sounds good.
Reading this thread thru... rmuir for the win with the Grey Bands. That would be a good name for a band actually.. The Grey Band.
And I'm glad to see thoughts have evolved towards appreciating the Grateful Dead. I guess like most bands they weren't strictly rock though. Pure Rock I'd have to say Aerosmith or Van Halen. But best American band... Eagles based on popularity, song writing, musicianship, included country an other sounds. The Dead included country, psychedelia, folk, etc. But what other American band was around and important from the 60s to the 90s? They never had the mainstream popularity, record sales, or radio airplay, but they were always breaking new ground and doing their own thing successfully for decades. For years one of the most successful touring acts.
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sween345
climber
back east
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What! You never heard of Stillwater?
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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The Steve Miller Band. Hey it's got band in the title! Living in the USA 1968, hits through 1982.
Boston is boss.
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. In the same bucket band/front man wise as Steve Miller I'd rekon.
STP had some great songs IMO.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Talking Heads
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Talking heads and the Dead FTW. David Byrne is a genius and Jerry was a master.
Edit, heard a song on the radio today that was a mashup of Talking Heads ‘Life in Wartime’ and Bob Marleys Exodus. Not DJ stuff, but a band. It was super cool. I’ll try to find it and post it. Very worth a listen.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Stillwater[Click to View YouTube Video]
Saw them open for a young 38 special ,back in the day when opening bands blew the headliners away,they did. 38 was so flustered they couldn’t stay in tune.
Supersuckers ,for sure. [Click to View YouTube Video]
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Scole
Trad climber
Zapopan
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Rage against the Machine
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Mike Friedrichs
Sport climber
City of Salt
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Camper Van Beethoven.
Best non-American band - Midnight Choir (Norway)
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Gretta Von Fleek is killing it as well, not great yet though.
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Stooges.
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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What is, and how do you define best? What are the criteria by which we can judge what is “best,” compared to that which is less than “best”?
If something sounds great, how do you define “great”? Why is it “great,” and what makes it “great”?
Most Popular American Rock Band or Your Favorite American Rock Band would be a much more appropriate title for this thread. There is no “best.” Declaring which band is the “best” is like walking into an art museum and asking which piece in the museum is the best. Music is art, a form of human expression, and we all have different tastes and preferences, and our own opinions. It’s quite obvious that what may sound good to one person may sound horrible to another, just as a painting may be considered to be beautiful by one person, and an eyesore to another. It’s totally subjective.
We can look at numbers, such as a list of best-selling albums of all time, which is currently topped by The Eagles, but all that means is they’ve won a popularity contest amongst those who buy music albums. If it’s simply about a popularity contest, then all we need to do is turn on our local classic rock radio station, and listen to the same old stuff over, and over, and over again, because that’s what’s “popular,” and what the masses want to hear (and where the $$$ is). Does this mean that the bands that we hear on the radio are made up of the “best” musicians out there? Maybe, or maybe not. There’s no doubt that some bands have become popular because of their “sound,” or “attitude and appearance,” and certainly not because of an abundance of talent or skill, as some clearly haven’t quite adapted to their instrument, or refined their vocal ability. I think we can come to some sort of consensus on the qualities that make a musician great, but to name a specific musician as the “best” simply goes right back to the realm of that which is subjective; we will never all agree.
Is the fastest guitar player the “best” – the one who can play Flight of the Bumblebee at the highest tempo? Is the “best” guitar player the one who bends notes with the utmost display of emotion, and with a saturation of heartfelt vibrato? And how about tone; what is good tone and what makes tone awesome? Or is the “best” guitarist the one who can play the most diverse array of styles, from that which is as light and mellow as hydrogen, to that which lies at the bottom of the periodic table? Is one style of music better than another style of music? What is good songwriting and what is bad songwriting? Is there a “best” songwriter, or songwriting at its “best”?
We can certainly separate those with advanced technical ability from those without, and those with an obvious working knowledge of music theory from those without. And we can point to those who have been successful, as the ones that we repeatedly hear on the radio, in contrast to the esoteric subsurface bands that we may have never heard of. But in the end, it just comes down to the fact that “we like what we like,” and we each know what sounds pleasing to us and what doesn’t. There is no best.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Everything in life is subjective.
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Best, the one who made the biggest impact relative to the odds stacked against their success. Hence the Stooges.
No private planes, no light shows, no hit singles, no beautiful girls, no scene, no stereotypes, but they shifted the course of modern music.
As Jim Jarmusch said, 'they were only guys of their time not trying to be the rolling stones'.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Of course you're right Minerals but that doesn't stop it from happening all the time, e.g. Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums. Of which some tops ones are crap.
I think in this context "Best" is who do you consider the "Best" band, not your "favorite".
Of course it's subjective and I think the best band is one that has had some combination of longevity, popularity (a degree of, not necessarily the most popular), a significant body of work, very good musicianship and vocals, good song writing, influential, good live performances, etc. And even then I'd say I could maybe come up with a top ten but it would be hard to rank them.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Fleetwood Mac, British-American though.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Yeah, it’s been pretty much downhill since Beefheart.
I swear there were some Scriabin riffs in that first one!
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Good call on beefheart.
Butthole surfers?
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SuperSpud
Trad climber
Cayucos, CA
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Best "Can't Possibly Stop From Dancing When They Play" : Beat Farmers
Best "Highest Musical Bandwidth" : 1974 or 1984 incarnation of the Mothers of Invention
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Tool?
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