Free-Range FA'ers and Patagonia Catalog: Fines and Apologies

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MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 28, 2014 - 07:10pm PT
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SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Three rock climbers have paid a $4,000 settlement to Capitol Reef National Park in Utah for violating climbing policies in the making of a photograph that appeared in a Patagonia clothing catalog, a park official said Tuesday.

Park rangers discovered illegal climbing routes in the red rock park after seeing the photograph in a September 2011 Patagonia catalog, park Superintendent Leah McGinnis said.

The image depicted a first climb on a new route.

Rangers found illegal climbing bolts were embedded in rock, and other rocks had been moved to create three illegal climbing routes. Climbing is allowed in areas of the park, but climbers are not allowed to place new bolts or fixed hardware.

McGinnis said the rangers contacted Patagonia and do not believe it knew about the illegal climbing.

A freelance photographer shot the image, and the company has no relationship with the two people pictured climbing, Patagonia spokesman Adam Fetcher said.

The company is reviewing its freelance photography policies and reaching out to the photographer involved to find out what happened, he said.

"We work very hard to makes sure every photo we publish depicts responsible climbing practices that align with Patagonia's broad environmental mission by asking vigilant questions and requiring locations always be identified," Fetcher said in a statement.

He said the image featured in the catalog was an action shot and did not showcase gear or clothing for customers to order.

McGinnis said the settlement will be used to remove the climbing bolts and fill in the holes.

Patagonia apologized in 2006 and later stopped sponsoring a person who climbed Delicate Arch in Arches National Park in Utah.

The climber was not charged with any violation for the 2006 climb but the park tightened its policies to make it clear that climbing of named arches or natural bridges is not allowed.
JonA

Trad climber
Oct 28, 2014 - 07:45pm PT
Patagonia was behind the Delicate Arch fiasco also. Heads up their $200 yoga pant wearing asses.
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Oct 28, 2014 - 07:57pm PT
"You can pet your pussy, but can't pat your gonia." I said that...............
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2014 - 08:07pm PT
Good one, Guido.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 28, 2014 - 09:57pm PT
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guido for the win!
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Oct 28, 2014 - 11:06pm PT
Illegal climbing routes???
Todd Gordon

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
Oct 29, 2014 - 12:52am PT
Illegal climbing routes;.....hang your heads in shame......bad climbers......

Our world is getting smaller and smaller. Our lives are becoming more and more micro-managed by our government. It's scary and sad. More rules, regulations, restrictions, fines, and punishments. More rangers with guns and ticket books, assault rifles and stun guns. Control, power, money, and our governments desire to keep us from hurting ourselves. Lawsuits, greed, and lies. The worst part of it all, is that I don't drink.....so I can't even get drunk and try to forget all this bullsh#t...............
I am sorry about all the restrictions and I am sorry that these climbers are victims of a government that is hell-bent on controlling everything and all.......
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Oct 29, 2014 - 05:17am PT
OT
Our lives are becoming more and more micro-managed by our government. It's scary and sad.

True. Bureaucracies have to find a way to feed themselves and grow, whether in government or private indusrty.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Oct 29, 2014 - 07:02am PT
Who was it?
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Oct 29, 2014 - 07:16am PT
Climbers should stop bolting. Please send all your bolting hardware to me for safekeeping.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Oct 29, 2014 - 07:25am PT
Old news. Pretty flimsy connection. A company the size of Patagonia can't be aware of the intricate activities of all of their contributors.
They erred, and learned, in defending Dean in the Arches affair.
All in all, Patagonia should be lauded for their groudbreaking corporate stance on environmentsl issues.
Many companies in the outdoor industry now PLAY at being green....Patagonia was and always will be the corporate leader in environmental issues.
couchmaster

climber
Oct 29, 2014 - 07:38am PT
Between Donini and Todd Gordon, it pretty much all got covered. That, and climbers pretty much encourage and allow the bureaucrats to do this to them.

Todd Gordon said:
"Our lives are becoming more and more micro-managed by our government. It's scary and sad. More rules, regulations, restrictions, fines, and punishments. More rangers with guns and ticket books, assault rifles and stun guns. Control, power, money, and our governments desire to keep us from hurting ourselves. Lawsuits, greed, and lies. The worst part of it all, is that I don't drink.....so I can't even get drunk and try to forget all this bullsh#t...............
I am sorry about all the restrictions and I am sorry that these climbers are victims of a government that is hell-bent on controlling everything and all....... "

Donini said:
"All in all, Patagonia should be lauded for their groudbreaking corporate stance on environmentsl issues.
Many companies in the outdoor industry now PLAY at being green....Patagonia was and always will be the corporate leader in environmental issues. "

Nuff said.
Roxy

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
Oct 29, 2014 - 08:07am PT

anybody have a copy of the catalog with the picture in question?


mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Oct 29, 2014 - 08:21am PT
A company the size of Patagonia can't be aware of the intricate activities of all of their contributors

Hmmm, I guess we can use this thought process across the board when justifying companies ignoring due diligence.

crunch

Social climber
CO
Oct 29, 2014 - 08:46am PT
The climbers involved (a few minutes with google image search should unearth photos of the new, splitter, routes in the Grand Wash area of Capitol Reef) are sponsored climbers who you'd think should know better. They evidently wanted to do a photo-shoot on a new route or two.

Were they perhaps too lazy to bother checking the climbing regulations where they were climbing. In a National Park in the Western USA, post the 2001 ascent of Delicate Arch, that's really careless.

Or else they felt entitled. Entitled to just do what they wanted and to hell with the regulations that the rest of us try to stick to. That's not good.

Same goes for Patagonia--what were they thinking? After the Delicate Arch fiasco of 2001 they really should be more careful about the photos they use. When it came to distributing/selling Glen Denny's Yosemite in the Sixties book Patagonia were all over changing the cover so that the iconic photo of Royal Robbins, who started his own clothing company, was replaced by a more generic El Capitan shot--like anyone would notice or care.

I think they should maybe put some of their vast resources into repairing relations between climbers and land managers around the Western US when these kinds of mishaps, involving Patagonia-supported climbers, occur.
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