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i-b-goB
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Wise Acres
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Nov 29, 2016 - 05:20pm PT
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Q&A WITH MCGEE Where did evil come from?
The origin of evil is one of the greatest theological problems we have. There are books written on this subject! Let’s turn to the Scripture that gives to us the origin of evil, as far as we know. It tells of the fall of Satan: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God …” (Isaiah 14:12, 13). Satan was created with the power, but then he said in his heart, “I will be like the most High.” This creature wanted to be like God— so much so that he wanted to take His place. He was far superior to any of God’s angels or creations, so he felt that he could set his will over the will of God. That’s what sin is: To set your will over the will of God. How many men and women are living self-sufficient lives? They don’t need God. He gets in their way, and they’d like to get rid of Him entirely if they could. And that is the innate evil.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Go-B, I suspect that passage was originally meant as criticism of Nebuchadnezzar. How the Bearer of Light got conflated with Satan may be a matter of speculation.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Interesting data, Jan.
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Faith Versus Reason
1 Corinthians 1:18-31
The first battle between faith and reason took place in the Garden of Eden. Spurred on by the serpent’s lies, Eve began to look at her situation from a purely logical perspective and decided that God was cheating her out of something good. Her faith faltered as “reasonable” thoughts of self-interest filled her mind (Gen. 3:4-6).
I am not saying that the way of faith is never logical, but if we operate only on the basis of reason, a conflict with the Lord is inevitable. That is because His instructions and actions don’t always appear reasonable from a human perspective. Although Isaiah 55:8-9 describes God’s thoughts and ways as higher than man’s, some people believe they know better than He does.
Paul emphasizes this by pointing out that God’s choices can come across as illogical by the world’s standards—His message of salvation seems foolish, and His messengers appear weak and unimpressive (1 Cor. 1:20-21). In an age that thrives on recognition, admiration, and importance, a person who believes the Bible is considered a weakling in need of a religious crutch to cope with life. But God’s Word explains the paradox: Recognizing their helplessness, believers lean on Christ so He can raise them to stand with Him in righteousness.
That day in Eden, sin and self-importance entered the human heart. But all the worldly wisdom that fuels our pride is nullified by God. He is looking not for great and impressive people but for weak, humble servants who can boast only in Christ. The Savior alone is their strength and wisdom.
https://www.intouch.org/read/magazine/daily-devotions/faith-versus-reason
...I am just a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes away and God is my all in all!
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Interesting data, Jan.
For you MikeL...
Jan, I bet this has changed a lot since 2010?
John 16:2 They will make you outcasts from the synagogue, but an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God.
...Sooo misguided!
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Wow, Go-B, . . . that's a Neiman that I like!
Thx.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Great art work, go-B
;>)
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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More of that go-B! That really is an image that just grabs you.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Everything is literal for Malemute.
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Soul Su Me
On a windy gusty Thursday
Starting ominous and grey
The skies cleared
My soul kept in a Kleenex box
Beneath a used tissue pyramid
Sadly the agreement said
Let no rain soddened wad
Harden in the morning sun
Stifling what I once was
A bloodied pulp
Of just dried blood
The soul being quite dead hence
Had always been untenable
Unsafe, dissipate
Or was it ever real
In the first place?
That was the disclaimer
I read on the tissue box
Back in 1969
-bushman
12/07/2016
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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1 Thessalonians 4
Those Who Died in Christ
13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
...Alive in Christ! : )
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Norton
Social climber
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"There is absolutely no evidence for evolution in the bible or science"
Gobee
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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...and away we go! : )
Norton
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Norton
Social climber
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why don't you just shove off if it bothers you so much?
B. Dylan
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