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BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
May 18, 2015 - 01:48pm PT
Wayno, there is usually a gap between pure science and what follows, technology. Look at us here, using technology that would have been considered witchcraft a few hundred years ago.

The internet doesn't really rely on new science. It is the technology.

And I'm damn sure not saying that all technology is good. Look how much of human effort has been embezzled in the pursuit of better ways to kill each other.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
May 18, 2015 - 02:55pm PT
Base, I don't have an issue with science or technology or religion or spirituality. These are all factors that have contributed to the inexorable ascent of our species from animal of nature to human civilization. They have all contributed and they have all screwed up in some way, but the overall picture as I see it is that we are evolving. Wisdom is not derived by getting it right all the time.

My comment was an attempt at humor and I might of screwed that up, but humor is part of MY religion and part of My science. It just works. There has to be a balance there somewhere and humor at times really cuts to the quick. I also find it interesting that over the years both religion and science have had issues defining the origin and value of humor.
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
May 18, 2015 - 03:25pm PT
Wisdom is not derived by getting it right all the time

Good one
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
May 18, 2015 - 03:35pm PT
If you think humor is hard to define, try life, or fire.

Life is a process of dynamic renewal. Life is a code. Life is this or that but they are of course only talking about objective functioning, as if life were merely a biological machine.

JL
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 18, 2015 - 03:55pm PT
Largo, "humor" me...

Why not watch the first 15 minutes of this Brian Cox Joe Rogan podcast, see if it doesn't suck you in for another 15 or more...

[Click to View YouTube Video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZl3ohphHSE

Then tell us what you think?





btw, I NEVER watch directly from Youtube, it's too clunky. Instead I right away download and then watch from VLC media player where I can pause, rewind, etc at a mouse click. Which is a way more user friendly experience. But all you tech-savvy guys probably know that already?
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
May 18, 2015 - 04:53pm PT
Nice link, Fruity. Joe Roegan is a marvel. So hip and so open.

Try this on for size:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW0Eo-kgIIU
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 18, 2015 - 05:24pm PT
Thanks for the tip. I saved it to my orchestra/symphony folder, will check it out.

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paul roehl

Boulder climber
california
May 19, 2015 - 12:33am PT
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 19, 2015 - 07:38am PT
Enjoy the aesthetics,...

[Click to View YouTube Video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIgW-4EnxO4

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"And you guys thought I was joking many pages ago when I speculated HFCS is in reality a 16 (now 17) year-old Valley Girl who is having a lark on this thread." -jgi

Hahahaha, too fuunnnnnv!!
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
May 19, 2015 - 03:01pm PT
^^^^ So which of these lovelies are you, dear?


Don't be shy.
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
May 21, 2015 - 10:02pm PT
Regarding Paul's photo, it seems I read years ago of a meditative practice that had an end-goal of turning the body to stone-like rigidity. Anyone familiar with this?
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 22, 2015 - 07:14am PT
jgill, I think you meant to post....

"Great song, one of my faves! QT so which of these lovelies are you most taken with?"

ANS Great question! Turns out, I can not answer w just one, I have to give you... tHrEE!

1. :28 hot hot!
2. 1:06 pretty sweet
3. 1:26 legs to die for

Geesh, I worked through THREE pretty fast, eh? ;)

Alright, I couldn't help myself. One more...

2:20! Clean stuff! Wow!! :)
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 22, 2015 - 09:05am PT
Trust me, this one WILL get you in the mood for some badass climbing this weekend...

[Click to View YouTube Video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcIy9NiNbmo

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A scary read on the future of life and technology by Martin Rees...


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/11605785/Astronomer-Royal-Martin-Rees-predicts-the-world-will-be-run-by-computers-soon.html

"there is disagreement about the route towards human-level intelligence. Some think we should emulate nature and reverse-engineer the human brain. Others say that’s a misguided approach – like designing a flying machine by copying how birds flap their wings. But it’s clear that once a threshold is crossed, there will be an intelligence explosion." -Rees

"Not all those with “bio” expertise will be balanced and rational. My worst nightmare is an “eco-fanatic”, empowered by the biohacking expertise that may be routine by 2050, who thinks that “Gaia” can only be saved if the human population is reduced. The global village will have its village idiots, and they will have global range." -Rees
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 22, 2015 - 09:19am PT
Sorry, Locker, I should've been more clear.

I had in mind jgill, lol!!

That song, btw... 20M plus hits at VEVo in 24 hours.

Record. Record money, too!
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
May 22, 2015 - 04:02pm PT
Trust me, this one WILL get you in the mood for some badass climbing this weekend...

Maybe for the youngsters . . . not this old guy. Climbing's a memory, now.

My former wife's son does the recording for TS when she is on tour. He usually works under the stage.

But getting back to you, does your father know you sneak his Mustang out of the garage after midnight on Thursdays, then rocket up and down the freeways, your golden hair blowing in the wind and a smile on your lips?

Be careful. Jody's out there with his radar gun!


;>)
MikeL

Social climber
Seattle, WA
May 22, 2015 - 08:44pm PT
Excuse me, is this the The New "Religion Vs Science" Thread?
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
May 22, 2015 - 08:55pm PT
You're excused. A little levity before tracking through the bloody fields.
MikeL

Social climber
Seattle, WA
May 23, 2015 - 12:10am PT
You feel there is blood involved?
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 23, 2015 - 07:50am PT
Speaking of levity...


Here is a very funny page...

http://www.google.com/search?q=bertrand+russell+teapot&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=aJJgVYKDNYzvtQWA-oHoAg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg&biw=1273&bih=532&dpr=0.9

Religulous!!!1

.....

Of course, not having been there, I am not absolutely certain there is NOT a teapot in orbit around the sun in the proximity of Mars, but I am reasonably certain there is not.

"Reasonably certain" is the key actionable idea.

Beware the sly academic philosopher or sly theologian - or even the sly college business ethics professor - who tries to steer you by fancy words and framing into thinking if you're not "absolutely certain" of something you can not proceed.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 23, 2015 - 12:31pm PT
"Ireland still has a ludicrous blasphemy law. This should be subject to a referendum next year, & presumably another setback for the church." -R Dawkins

The claim:
Blasphemy laws in this day and age - of the "international community" are religulous. Anywhere they exist in the world they need to be eliminated.

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Go Jaclyn!

Atheists vs Assholes

[Click to View YouTube Video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPhbRdW6J9s&feature=em-subs_digest

"I'm 15 years old and I've been a Southern Baptist my whole life... up until 6 months ago my atheist friend started talking to me about atheism. I'm so glad I'm out of that mental prison f*#k hole that is religion. I'm now an atheist and have came out to my ultra conservative Christian parents. I'm happier now that I've ever been and I'm not looking back." -tohb

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How fitting it seems to post this commentary / critique to this thread.
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