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WBraun

climber
Oct 24, 2014 - 08:53am PT
Everyone comes from the same place ......
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Oct 24, 2014 - 08:56am PT
Then why are you a zombie.

 see... you are delusional.

What do zombies find as wisdom?

Everyone comes from the same place ......

 Genius!!!


 So profound...
MH2

climber
Oct 24, 2014 - 08:58am PT
Everyone comes from the same place ......


I better check under the bed. And the closet.
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Oct 24, 2014 - 09:01am PT
faith, believing something for no good reason

Sorry, but how depressing. We don't fully understand the good reasons why humans developed the belief forming processes that we have, but we're so addicted to believing in our own omniscience, that we're forced to believe that there's no good reason why humans form the beliefs that we do, instead of accepting that we just don't understand the good reasons :-(
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Oct 24, 2014 - 09:19am PT
We don't fully understand the good reasons why humans developed the belief forming processes that we have,

 Right... I say that the whole thing is made up, and is unnecessary for life...

i.e. invented...

i.e. ... you can make up the rest

i.e. 'humans developed the belief forming processes that we have'
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Oct 24, 2014 - 09:26am PT
you can make up the rest

Thanks Jingy! Perfect example. I make up the belief that there must be some good reason that we make up beliefs, possibly transcending the awesome omnipotence of my own intellect. That whole sciency thing that thee are reasons why we've evolved our capabilities is a bunch of nonsense!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 24, 2014 - 09:37am PT
Hudson River Valley?


I've climbed on cliffs that look remarkably like those in the painting...
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Oct 24, 2014 - 01:31pm PT
Sorry, y'all...

a new one will not replace the old one in a million years...

I got a breath of fresh air today when I found the old thread...

second repubs thread said something to the tune of...

You will have to pry this thread from my cold dead hands to make me nuke it.



It can be said this has proven to be untrue.
Psilocyborg

climber
Oct 24, 2014 - 04:49pm PT
science meets art

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ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2014 - 05:55pm PT
Um, Think I'll just let the mystery be.

Have a great weekend everybody and make sure to spread the love.

Arne
MH2

climber
Oct 24, 2014 - 06:04pm PT
Ah, mystery.

What is a 'weekend?'
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Oct 24, 2014 - 06:33pm PT
you can make up the rest

 This is not meant to mean that you can make up sh#t and it become the real to you and me too!!!


You may think it real... don't make it so.
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2014 - 08:46pm PT
What is a 'weekend?'

It's whatever you want it to be if you want one in your mind.

For some, maybe a break from school or something. Or maybe you went to Sunday school on a weekend and thought you had something to look forward to. I don't know.
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2014 - 08:52pm PT
Where I'm headed for my weekend. Some call it heaven or God's country or nature but I just like it.
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2014 - 09:00pm PT
Views into Glacier National Park. Lots of people call that God's country but to me it's always been just as much mine, or ours.

jgill

Boulder climber
Colorado
Oct 24, 2014 - 09:15pm PT
That is a gorgeous painting, Ed. It may turn out to be the best thing to ever appear on this thread!
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Oct 24, 2014 - 09:46pm PT
That is What the secret places still look like in high summer
some where I Bet that spot exists
to slip back is the place Devine ?
Divinely riven? What about
The quality of the light
The painters eye his perspective
Is skill and talent God given
Or with the increase in translucent
pigments the chemicals that make up
Paint just the forward progress of science ?.....


I should not hit save but some thoughts are fleeting
truth

Ed thank you what is that painting's title
Who is the Hudson valley school artist who
painted it?
Will I see This on the art thread?
I have never opened that.

of course jGill reads and writes and climbs better than me/I that needs grammar check

it is either Real Time w/ Bill Maher or here
I'll be back after some TV

there is no net

bushman Bushman
he's THE MAN
when I started I was
Thinking Edgar ?
what means this cryptic.. Poe
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Oct 24, 2014 - 09:49pm PT
Speaking of science and life's existential questions, I just finished a fascinating book called The Snake Charmer about the life and death of Joe Slowinski at age 38. I originally picked it up because he worked for the California Academy of Sciences and it mentions people I worked with there.

The book lets you know in the first few pages that Joe dies of a poisonous snake bite while on expedition, yet the story is riveting anyway. It goes into great detail about herpetologists, particularly those who handle venomous snakes being a peculiar combination of thrill seeking and rational science. The more the author talked about that, the more parallels I could draw with climbers, especially those in the sciences. Both dangerous climbing and handling poisonous snakes are mysteries to the average person and in the end, one is left wondering about a lot of things, and drawing a lot of parallels.

I was also left wondering if one pursuit made any more sense than the other. Having new species of snakes named by you or after you is probably about as doubtful a pursuit as first ascents. If all is nothingness, does it matter? If you die doing what you love, is that better, and for whom?

Definitely a thought provoking book and you learn a lot about biology along the way.
T H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Oct 24, 2014 - 09:59pm PT
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MH2

climber
Oct 24, 2014 - 10:18pm PT
Werner was right, Pastor Liz.

There are people under my bed, in my closet, and all over my house.






for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return

Genesis 3:19
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