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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jan 17, 2019 - 07:53am PT
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and Largo does with damn near the entire english language...
LOL!
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Jan 17, 2019 - 07:58am PT
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Largo: I was amazed, over the last few months, to discover how I've been deeply unconscious about many of the very things I thought I was doing.
Me, too. Seeing that over the last years has encouraged me to embrace situations where the ground has been pulled from underneath my feet.
I have a long-lost sister who disowned our family probably 40+ years ago. She has had a gender transformation, and was for many years a full-time devoted “star trekkie.” The long-lost sister had said some very hateful things to my mother, father, and sisters (I was long gone myself), so there is a lot of resentment. Recently two of my sisters searched for and found him. Last week we heard that he fell into a coma, and is not expected to make it. Feelings are raw, and there’s a lot of confusion. It’s actually a great time for my mother and sisters to observe their feelings and who and what they are.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jan 17, 2019 - 08:07am PT
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I was going to quote that same line and then somehow got busy elsewhere.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 17, 2019 - 08:31am PT
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You, idiots, are like the fools who argue over a parking space in a no parking zone ......
No wonder you want to become robots.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jan 17, 2019 - 08:47am PT
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If you wanted to meet largo or Paul halfway I’m confident each will be well understood by the other.
Yes. But the other half - at least the half I have in mind - goes beyond mere words and communications... to actual real-world understandings, preferences and attitudes.
(I go snowshoeing now.) :)
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 17, 2019 - 09:30am PT
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rantloon said --- "I interpreted what they wrote"
First mistake and every mistake after.
That's why you are brainwashed fool number one .....
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 17, 2019 - 12:57pm PT
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Oh ...
We know that rantchrist has no idea what any words actually mean since he's too busy interpreting them to fit into his brainwashed bias ....
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
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Jan 17, 2019 - 01:43pm PT
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Dionysian and Eleusinian cults are well known and well described and accessible in every encyclopedia. They are also well known to students of history and religion.
Each discipline has its own specialized jargon and fundamental symbols which need to be learned unfortunately by those in other fields.
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brotherbbock
climber
So-Cal
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Jan 17, 2019 - 01:53pm PT
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Antichrist seems so angry in all of his posts.
You need to relax bro...you sound like a brainwashed crankloon.
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brotherbbock
climber
So-Cal
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Jan 17, 2019 - 01:57pm PT
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He's the greatest troll of all time...
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jan 17, 2019 - 02:00pm PT
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He's the greatest troll of all time... -brotherbbock
No enabling here.
I call bs.
Wb is toxic, he's arsenic, on these threads.
Wb, amidst his enablers here, is akin to Trump amidst his enablers in the R group. It's a shame it goes down like this but apparently we as a group can do no better.
BELOW,
He's been firing you up for years... -brotherbbock
oh I think there's a difference between firing me up and poisoning a potentially interesting conversation. Even if someone like you can't tell the difference. Trump supporter?
Minus WB, no way would these two threads in particular devolve into such a toxic mess - as evidenced here this very hour, case in point. But it is what it is.
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brotherbbock
climber
So-Cal
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Jan 17, 2019 - 02:02pm PT
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He's been firing you up for years...
ABOVE: You are thin skinned like that idiot Trump. Don't be that way. I'm sorry the duck gets your goat but that's your problem. You guys get trolled so easily...this back and forth is a perfect example.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jan 17, 2019 - 02:15pm PT
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Thanks for serving as a catalyst so I could lay it out.
Back on my laptop now.
Apparently this brotherbbock doesn't pay much attention. I do not address Wb. Haven't for years except once or twice. DONE.
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brotherbbock
climber
So-Cal
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Jan 17, 2019 - 02:16pm PT
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No problem dude.
Anytime.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Jan 18, 2019 - 10:04am PT
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AC: I dunno, talking bushes, angels, virgin births, heaven, zombies, giants... sounds like fairy tales to me.
Well that’s one way of putting it. You read many novels, plays, short stories, or see any movies?
Many here on ST would claim that Yosemite is sacred (as are many other places and events in history). What climber can stand in front of El Cap and not feel tremendum, fear, and a connection to something far far larger than themselves? It’s pretty much always been: “There’s that, and me; one of us is going to be sent.”
According to many shamans, what is sacred is non-rational. It has the following aspects:
(1) Mystery / mysterium: dumbfounding; a mood of amazement and awe
(2) Fascination: an obsession that can lead to a pursuit of the lumen (the light), perhaps a feeling of beatitude. Have you ever read or heard a presentation that for the moment, seemed to change your life and everything around it? Is there a calling that you cannot really explain?
(3) Tremendum: overpowering might; majesty, urgency—perhaps evoking a feeling of being nothing but dust and ashes before what one claims is holy.
You might see life and the things in and around it as purely rational, technical, no-nonsense, and factual. You can have your eyes opened by going to a combat zone; watching your child’s birth; having an orgasm; laying back on green grass and studying the night sky filled with stars; falling in love; undertaking a scary climb; reading a novel that is so engrossing that you can’t put it down until it’s finished; focusing solely on any one thing for a long period of time (meditation); fasting for a few days; taking a private retreat (totally alone for weeks or more); and on and on.
I’d say that which is not sacred, that which has no mystery, fascination, or tremendum to it is mundane and uninteresting. Even Ed—an exemplar for you—appears to express deep wonder in his life and work.
Celebrate the diversity, the multiplicity of the expression of SOMETHING that we can’t put our finger on definitively.
Many contemporary scholars in this area say it is worth noting that with modernity's emphasis on pluralism, individualism, and autonomy, the need to find one's place within one's community is minimal; hence shamanism no longer works very well. Modern Man, it's been said, is entrapped by his rational, intellectual, and inflated tendencies of the ego. Instead of seeing difficulties (sex, aggression, religious choices) in the world as expressions of an evil force (the devil), today's moderns instead complain of alienation, anomie, distress, frustration, isolation, and despair. Heidegger went so far as to say that modern man has experienced a loss of meaning, mystery, dignity due to a withdrawal of "being." (Also see Nietzsche.) Everything worth talking about can now be expressed as a metric, quantitative calculation, reductionist, materialist, objectivist devoted to Economic Man: in other words--the bourgeoise.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
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Jan 18, 2019 - 10:40am PT
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Perhaps for most people it takes being in another culture whether combat or ethnographic fieldwork, to appreciate the problems and insufficiencies of our own modern cultures. Writers and artists of course see it from within the cultures.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jan 18, 2019 - 11:28am PT
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Even Ed—an exemplar for you—appears to express deep wonder in his life and work.
Even Ed!?
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Trump
climber
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Jan 18, 2019 - 02:09pm PT
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Even Ed Oh you know, as in even the rabble, and all that lot. Whatever it is that our particular biases prevent us from appreciating the value of. It’s something for each of us, and sorry if it’s you for any of us.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jan 18, 2019 - 02:44pm PT
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"Master of False Narratives"
One answer: Trump.
Hm, I'm trying to think of another.
Hm....
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