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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Oct 20, 2014 - 08:23pm PT
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Bob, thanks for selling me those cams. That was an honest deal and I use them often. Hate to see you go and all the material you had contributed in the past, but it is a lot of work and not a lot of good climbing material seems to be hear anymore. Easy to see why you would pack up. the thing that sucks if you have posted pictures and materials that you value and you don't have recorded or have lost through computer changes and data crashes and such it may be gone for good.
I look at ST this way: I get used to post climbing material and I use them to be sort of a huge picture album for me. I hope others value what I put out there, but I am not too worried if they don't. It seems that even the most die hard out there have started to find out that you can't be climbing 24/7 as all the stories get told and there is nothing left other than to bicker about our differences.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Oct 20, 2014 - 09:36pm PT
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 20, 2014 - 09:52pm PT
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Cute quote from old RokkyJockey today on the Evil One's FB page:
"St is dying of boredom and dumb ass posts, all kumbya and bullshit on how attractive clouds are..."
You hearing that, Blitzo?
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Oct 20, 2014 - 10:13pm PT
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Looks like he got part of his wish...
"Bob D'A: this members account has been deactivated"...
Don't believe locker :-)
As of 2 minutes ago:
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 20, 2014 - 10:28pm PT
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lynne - put your thoughts where they cannot be deleted...
I learned the lesson the hard way...
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Oct 20, 2014 - 10:43pm PT
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How??
Thanks.
Don't do it. We need you here to balance out the fukwits.
Curt
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Oct 20, 2014 - 10:52pm PT
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Jingy, I don't have that kind of tyme or technology. Besides, sometimes even my own brain deletes my thoughts. :) Just hope something sticks to the wall here. If not, perhaps it wasn't that great a post.
So Jingy, if you have any tyme (I like this spelling)email me and catch me up on wat up wit yo. Love to hear from you. lynnie
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Oct 21, 2014 - 08:24am PT
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Bob, don't leave.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Oct 21, 2014 - 09:03am PT
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Take 'er easy Bob, I know you will. Might be out Penitente way this summer, maybe I can bribe you into a tour.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 21, 2014 - 09:06am PT
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(Please know that this is all well intended drivel. If there any objections while reading this drivel (I often wonder why anyone would read this drivel at all) just take a step away from the situation so you can see a little bigger picture... so that reactions are not all you succumb to)
catch me up on wat up wit yo.
 as much as this sounds like a great invitation for some story telling and heartfelt discussion about life's ups and downs... unfortunately there is no life to discuss... therefore I will not be emailing you to reconnect.
Lynne, I'm not the Jingy you met all those years ago... my mind and body have changed... it is all out of my control. Please do not be alarmed.
I have lived a life of what I was calling connection....
I believe, now, that there is no connection... at least none tied to me... no matter how wrong that sounds...
Blindness in old age cannot be willed away.
Blindness in old age cannot be bootstrapped to 20/20.
You cannot hunker down and rebuild from blindness.
How is my condition different? And how much do we really want to hear about the ups and downs of the blind "yeah, we know, you can't see... Heard that... you got anything new?"
What if I have nothing new to tell?
What if you could look back at the pages and posts on this website and have a full record of my "Life" and how its going...?
What if the words you posted to this forum were your only avenue for expression in any meaningful way for you? What kind of connection would you feel to the community if, on the whim of another human being, your only means of expression... or.. that which you have expressed was taken away? Removed?
What if... when you look back at your life you see example after example of life treating you in this same unquestioning indifference to your concerns... maybe unfair... as if your words don't mean a thing... as if your feelings don't mean a thing.
I have to accept this as reality. My words mean nothing. My thoughts mean nothing. They never have. They have always been under an illusion of a future and an importance when there wasn't any to begin with...
In my case... I know I am right.
On a side note, I just thought of a good reason to not post anything thoughtful to this website at all. Nothing I post on the site matters. Your/My words mean nothing and they can/will be removed. Don't ever think it's going to be different. Don't ever think that you can change any of these things.
This site is no site of record.
Edit - The more I think about it, the more everything points to my illusion that what I write/think/say is of any importance at all. Knowing is the key to the battle... Don't think for a moment that your words have any meaning to anyone other than the emptiness within and you will get along just fine in this life.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 21, 2014 - 09:20am PT
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Self indulgent clap trap
Yes... that is what my life has always been.
hahaha
(I know you didn't mean me... but that explains a little portion of my life to a 'T')
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Oct 21, 2014 - 09:22am PT
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Thanks for the heartfelt post Jingy. You are right in how disconnected we are at times, and how insulated we are in our own little world, our own little minds. We're not as important as we think, in the big picture.
I'm sorry to hear about physical impairments of any kind. They are arriving for me, and have been creeping in the side door for a while. They are coming for us all.
But that doesn't mean that I quit reaching for the golden yummies every chance I get. What choice do I have?
If this site is important to you, (it is to me.) then keep speaking your mind and your heart. Sometimes they get through, as your post just did for me.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 21, 2014 - 09:28am PT
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Sometimes they get through, as your post just did for me.
It's too late for me. I strongly feel that this never, ever happens.
The evidence is in the fact that my words have been erased at the hands of another.
It is me who is making the connection between the futility of thinking of one's own greatness... and then mine too is the part where I think others give a sh#t shat I have to say... fact is... it never has meant a thing.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Oct 21, 2014 - 09:30am PT
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You will be back; why delete?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Oct 21, 2014 - 09:41am PT
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Jingy, that's some kind of dark stuff. What is this about blindness? I mean, my eyes suck compared to just a few years ago, but I'm certainly not blind.
Are you speaking metaphorically, or about a bonafide condition?
Edit:
Jingy, I sent you a PM through the supertopo email link. Please check on whether you got it, ok?
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couchmaster
climber
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Oct 21, 2014 - 10:01am PT
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Jingy, "the mass of men live lives of quiet desperation" (Thoreau). Welcome to reality. Soon, "we too will be dead in quiet anonymity and our best words too will be dust" (me).
Bob, why do you want to delete your Supertopo account?
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 21, 2014 - 10:16am PT
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Do we really mean that something means 'something' when we tell others of meaning? And what exactly do we mean when we say these things?
Really?
The way I see it..?
If people claim that children are important to the future of humanity.... Then we would have the results to prove it.
If people claim that people are important to the future of humanity....
Then we would have the results to prove it.
If people claim that America is the best...
Then we would have the results to prove it.
How would this apply to ST?
A great woman (Nita) once pointed me in the direction of this team of reporters... it turned out to be an interesting hour of life, for me... as a result.. I return to the sight weekly to heart what they have to say.
http://www.radiolab.org/story/dust-planet/
Whenever any human makes a claim, I always look for those results to see if the claim actually means anything at all.
Survival -
Jingy, that's some kind of dark stuff.
just a clear distanced view of my life... Stepping back, putting it in a box so as to better examine its details has lead me to these statements... along with my life's experiences.. which have been few, and therefore could not possibly be the best perspective with which to view things... but its the only perspective I've got. It's not like one just ups and changes perspectives do they?
The rich suddenly giving a sh#t about the poor finds little in the way of a real example.
The powerful giving a sh#t about the weak, the intelligent giving a sh#t about the ignorant.
No... I believe we all say these things... but we hardly back them up with focused effort at achieving the desired results.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Oct 21, 2014 - 10:36am PT
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Jingy, I always enjoy seeing your posts..thoughts, music and feisty replies..
In my world ..you count..Big time...
Wish i could bop on over with some homemade chicken soup and pumpkin pie..
saludos..my friend..
sending you much Love....Really!
Nita....(-;
edit..Just noticed you posted above me...
second edit..Ahh, we were thinking of each other and posting at the same time. .. MLS .Mona Lisa smile.
another edit...Bob D.A....I hope you just take a break, don't delete and return...
Cheers...nita...
pssss... I Miss the long shadows and the natural glowing light of the Southwest..Lucky you.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Oct 21, 2014 - 10:51am PT
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Jingy, why do I want to hear about your ups and downs? Because I care. Lynne
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dirt claud
Social climber
san diego,ca
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Oct 21, 2014 - 11:13am PT
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Something my fiancee sent to me last week through e-mail after I was having a bad day. These are tough to do all the time, but the more you do them the better time you may have on this physical plane. For some reason Jingys post reminded me of this.
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