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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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why does left wing politics always boil down to gay sex?
Again, why do the less intelligent conservatives always seem to see L vs R as some sort of gay sex issue?
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Tvash: Science enables us to understand, innovate, and invent.
You think. You don’t know. You have theories, models, and frameworks that define what is real. But you don’t know. It’s a good guess, don’t get me wrong. But you don’t know.
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cintune
climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
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And Mike knows that you don't know. So there's that.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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The arc of Western civilization speaks for me. I am but a humble observer.
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MH2
climber
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"To Have a Theory, a Model, a Framework, and a Good Guess About Him Is To Love Him, I Think"
Might have been a mouthful for Phil Spector.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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"To Have a Theory, a Model, a Framework, and a Good Guess About Him Is To Love Him, I Think"
 you can have to deepest most profound thoughts on "him" and it is so...
I've always contended...
There is no god
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Hey Mikel, for a quick lesson in science, I suggest that you go play in traffic. It should clear your head about the material world.
Science can explain and predict religion. Religion can't explain or predict anything.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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nobody needs to play in traffic, someone might....
..carry on.
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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Best worship the Great Bearded White Guy in the Sky, just to be sure, right?
But what if ISIS is really right?
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Can't
wake
up
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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I guess that this cell phone I'm holding was built by scientific, rather than Christian, thinking. I guess that I've designed phones, multimeters, robots, and heart monitors using scientific, rather than Christian, principles.
But it's all just a guess. When someone who's never designed anything tells me I don't really know, I'm going give that evidence every speck of consideration it's due.
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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You think. You don’t know. (MikeL)
You think you don't know? I don't think so!
;>)
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Perhaps you folks could say what you do know perfectly, completely, accurately. How about just one thing?
How about science? How about air? How about an atom? How about a street? How about a fly? How about a color? How about a moment in time? You choose. Pin something down, for once and for all. Show us what you absolutely know scientifically.
Surely you must know SOMETHING completely, accurately, perfectly?
Not one thing?
(DMT is going to wine that this is my “one note” as a musician. I suppose it will continue to be—until someone satisfies the request.)
There is no time limit on a response.
What you have, I believe, are theories.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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I know I like my drone better, even if it does seem to have a thing for my face.
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MH2
climber
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Surely you must know SOMETHING completely, accurately, perfectly?
Not one thing?
I know that you cannot be convinced that anyone knows anything completely, accurately, and perfectly.
Does that count?
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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Show us what you absolutely know scientifically.
The state of entropy of the entire universe will always increase over time and changes in the entropy in the universe can never be negative.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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The state of entropy of the entire universe will always increase over time and changes in the entropy in the universe can never be negative.
what's entropy?
what's "the entire universe" there are parts of the "entire universe" which are no longer in thermal contact with other parts... so as a "universal" idea, entropy has to be limited to the causally connected parts, which means that the universe is not necessarily in equilibrium as a whole...
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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one thing that I know?
calculating when and were the Moon will rise... from any point on the Earth's surface
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