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telemon01
Trad climber
Montana
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Oct 20, 2014 - 04:45pm PT
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The religion vs. science thread is gone?
I think this proves that there is a God.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 20, 2014 - 04:53pm PT
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Yes it proves that God is eternally ultimately existing.
The atheist class can't prove anything.
They just keep guessing and theorizing and then become frustrated and wave there hands and say nobody knows.
So stooopid.
They know nothing and at the same time say they "know" by saying ("nobody knows").
More stooopidity!!!!
No wonder they all commit mental suicide ......
Just see what happened to Dr Failed himself!!!
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Oct 20, 2014 - 04:54pm PT
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Also, I like the "wild west" approach for throwing everything into the same mix and allowing us to figure out at a glance what we are interested in, rather than placing threads in numerous folders.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. I find other forums where subject content is folder-confined, to be disjointed and cumbersome, to say the least.
To arrange that system for ST would be a probable death sentence for what is an otherwise great format.
I hope that particular mistake is never made.
Just see what happened to Dr Failed himself!!!
Dr.F's misfortunes had nothing to do with atheism---rather it is most likely due to inadequate Vitamin D intake and the unrestrained consumption of grain products.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 20, 2014 - 06:19pm PT
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Yes it proves that God is eternally ultimately existing.
 as long as man insists on it being so....
But ultimately.... I believe 'Yes', there is no god!
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Oct 21, 2014 - 10:08am PT
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This was a good thread. It had nothing to do with climbing, but it seemed like most of us were old farts who had already told their climbing stories too many times anyway.
If Largo wants to re-animate this thread under a topic of his own, I won't participate.
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couchmaster
climber
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Oct 21, 2014 - 10:14am PT
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John Gill said: "For some younger climbers it may seem beyond the realms of possibility that arguments about placing bolts, speed record ascents, gear analysis, latest difficulty levels, etc. would ever lose their thrilling appeal and become pedestrian . . . but occasionally older climbers or ex-climbers would like to converse on other topics, and for that I appreciate Chris's forum. I, for one, would not be here if it were strictly climbing content. Also, I like the "wild west" approach for throwing everything into the same mix and allowing us to figure out at a glance what we are interested in, rather than placing threads in numerous folders. Just my 2 cents worth.
Thanx to HFCS for starting things up again. "
Me too. I often show up to catch words of wisdom and current events. But unexpectedly seeing a historic John Gill (or John Bachar, Pat Ament, Jeff Lowe, Frank Sacherer, Ron Olveski, RobbinsFrostPratt etc etc etc etc etc) climbing photo pulling some heinous route or unbelievable move is a great, rare and priceless added bonus. Also, it sure nice to pull some of WL's (or Big Mike or anyone's current etc etc) beta on some Red Rocks (or Yos or Jt etc etc) climb before I go there on a trip. Mt Project has a lot that too I suppose. Historic photos and discourse, rare and priceless: here.
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couchmaster
climber
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Oct 21, 2014 - 10:17am PT
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AS IF ON CUE, I POST THAT AND THE VERY NEXT THING I SEE IS THIS WHICH SOMEONE BUMPED TO THE TOP: http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1223002/Don-Lauria-Climbs-Half-Dome-Summit-1966
Thanks Steve G.! Awesome thread which starts great and gets even better as in the middle of it first Ken Boche and then Don Lauria himself shows up and posts some great dinosaur era pics. Lauria of him crawling out on Thank God Ledge and then climbing with Kor in knee deep snow! Great stuff!!!! Where else is that available?
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
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Oct 22, 2014 - 12:48am PT
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It's about time that thread got booted out of the universe. Using a SuperTopo thread as your daily blog, thereby bumping your thoughts to the front page every single day, all day long; very lame. Just start your own web page and blog.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Oct 22, 2014 - 09:25am PT
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MUST
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POST LAME THINGS ON LAME THREADS....
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Oct 22, 2014 - 10:14am PT
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Stay Sharp!
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Oct 22, 2014 - 11:29am PT
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^^^^^ Speaking of which . . . how can particle physicists isolate one photon or one electron in an experiment?
Curious.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Oct 22, 2014 - 11:51am PT
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Dingus^^^^ don't you think it cool if your kids could come back here In days future after ur dead and read all the intelligent statements you've provided?
I thankful to be able to go back and read all the cool things that people said and did around Blitzo's passing!!
And I'm really happy that all Blitzo's picture threads are still available to share. I'm amazed they didn't take those down
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 22, 2014 - 11:55am PT
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investing a lot of personal effort in the content of this forum with the expectation that the effort will be preserved is naive at best
Yep
And the ones taking themselves way too seriously will suffer the most too.
Guys like Jebus for example.
Hahahaha
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nah000
climber
canuckistan
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Oct 22, 2014 - 12:03pm PT
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it's the usual:
it's naive to expect or assume that a place like this will remain a useful archive...
otoh,
it's equal parts cynical to expect or assume that it can't/won't be.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Oct 22, 2014 - 12:15pm PT
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I just found out from Craig that he was inactivated involuntarily. This disappoints me, because he provided, in my opinion, a great deal of positive value to this forum. He was no anonymous, malicious, poster. A great deal of his argumentative posts were rather clearly tongue-in-cheek, and he posted a lots of climbing-related posts as well, not to mention his outstanding pictures of cacti.
And no one can seriously argue that his threads drew no interest. If we include two previously deleted "Republican" threads, his threads generated well over 100,000 posts. Sure, a lot of posts were repeats by people who wanted the last word, but there were plenty of original, interesting and well-presented ideas that enlivened the campfire for many of us.
OK. I admit that I hadn't posted on the predecessor of this thread for a rether long time, and lately had little to say even on the "Republicans" thread because I felt I had nothing new to add (and, by implicaiton, little new was added by anyone else), it still provided entertainment, with rather little harm. What, exactly, did Craig do that people found so contrary to the spirit and letter of the forum?
I fear that in "pruning" the forum, we are taking too much fruitwood.
John
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Oct 22, 2014 - 01:35pm PT
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Someone should start a science thread for conversations about all aspects of science. Religious and political posts would be inappropriate. Knowing little to nothing about experimental particle physics I would like to know how single particles can be isolated in experiments - or if they in fact are.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Oct 22, 2014 - 01:42pm PT
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I think they're judged by seeing or measuring their predicted indicators appearing on a screen during an experiment set up to see if the predicted indicators will actually appear on the screen... That's much better than introspectors finding an external God, I tell ya... ^^^^
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Oct 22, 2014 - 02:13pm PT
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Well, there is the old Wilson cloud chamber that I remember from 60 years ago.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Oct 22, 2014 - 02:22pm PT
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I've thought for some time now that there should be a separate science thread since most posters to this thread are science oriented. I too felt like we had reached the end of useful conversation on religion vs science. Of course if neurobiology comes up with new findings on religious experience and the brain, well it might creep back in after all.
I certanly learned a painful lesson about downloading things I want to keep when I read them rather than postponing that for the future. To say that nothing is worth preserving however, is just an anti-historic and anti-cultural form of nihilism it seems to me. If that's the case, why have museums, why have books? Why bother to pass knowledge from one generation to the next? Why not just revert back to the pre Homo sapiens past?
As for the internet in general, it's not clear yet how important and lasting an influence it will turn out to be. I already find my reading disrupted by more and more ads and I'm wondering how soon most of it will start to seem like television, which was also thought revolutionary in a postive way when it first appeared.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Oct 22, 2014 - 03:26pm PT
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Well DMT, I'm quite sure that if given the choice of preserving the historical threads on here or not, people would come up with the money for most of them. As for the science vs religion thread, no one was given a choice were they? And for this site and many others, I have a program that blocks the ads. Perhaps someone will come up with those for blocking the ads that obscure the whole article for 30 seconds on sites like the New York Times?
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