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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 26, 2015 - 04:52pm PT
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Well to back on topic.
Thom Hartmann has had a discussion going for a week now, and there hasn't been a single example of a real answer of yes to the question
What have Conservatives enacted as law or a policy that has benefitted America since day one???
And since the Dems were the conservatives until 1970, you can't use Party affiliation to answer this question.
it turns out every positive thing that has been done for America was enacted by Progressives or liberals.
Lincoln, Teddy R. and even Eisenhower were progressive liberals. Fact.
Wasn't it the Conservatives that wanted to stay as Colony of England?
yes it was
The Conservatives have been against every major positive change this Country has ever gone through,
and happen to be the actual cause of every major problem we now endure.
They try to revise History to divert from their failure, but the facts just don't back up any of their claims
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Feb 26, 2015 - 05:39pm PT
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Chief, I watched your video, and can understand that you don't understand what the President is saying.
I can't do this by myself.... that isn't democracy.... that's not how democracy works.
Those words to not refer to the issue of legality, it refers to how things SHOULD work.
I can easily imagine you on a ship making the same argument to your staff when they are not doing their jobs. (except for the democracy part!).
How many times has he practically BEGGED for the Repubs to vote on comprehensive immigration reform. 1 or 2 thousand?
In another country, he'd have dissolved the parliament, and formed a new gov't.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Feb 26, 2015 - 05:41pm PT
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Chief, I'm also surprised, as a military man, that you have to repeatedly ask me about clearly treasonous act. Taking up arms against the US?
What they hell do they teach NCOs???
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 26, 2015 - 05:52pm PT
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Dave Kos
Social climber
Temecula
Feb 26, 2015 - 05:26pm PT
Remember Sketch?
He was a sad character. We don't know anything about him, except that he seemed to have no joy in his life and that he needed this forum to lash out at others from a veil of anonymity.
I always pictured some late-middle-aged balding dude in a double-wide collecting welfare checks - or even worse ... healthcare subsidies!
Let's all take a moment to reminisce and have a robust laugh at the sorry character behind the Sketch avatar.
All this because I pointed out your hypocrisy?
So you're a RINO. So what?
Don't let these silly, little internet exchanges get you so pissy.
Life's too short.
Have a nice evening.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Feb 26, 2015 - 05:59pm PT
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it turns out every positive thing that has been done for America was enacted by Progressives or liberals.
Lincoln, Teddy R. and even Eisenhower were progressive liberals. Fact.
Lincoln was a Constitutional Conservative, So was Eisenhower.
"progressive" Teddy R. was a raging racist and a big fan of the eugenics movement.
The grand daddy of "progressives" Woodrow Wilson, used the executive action that totalitarian "progressives" so admire to segregate the federal civil service that that been integrated since reconstruction. His son in-law (a bit of nepotism there) took it as far as to erect screens in the offices so his white buddies wouldn't be offended by the sight of black coworkers.
In an other action he re-segregated the military too.
"Progressive" is just another name for a Fabian Socialist that thinks he is superior, knows it all, and should be dictating.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 26, 2015 - 06:03pm PT
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Teddy R. was a raging racist and a big fan of the eugenics movement.
So I guess you can't use Teddy R. as a model Republican anymore.
Please show us the any proof that Lincoln and Eisenhower were Conservatives
The facts say the exact opposite.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Feb 26, 2015 - 06:15pm PT
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TR was not a "model Republican"
He started his own third "progressive" party.
The present day Republican establishment is filled with the same brand of rent seekers that control the Democrats.
The only difference between the two is the pockets being lined.
(often it's the same pockets)
Smoke another bowl Locker.
You need it.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 26, 2015 - 06:18pm PT
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wow
this google search
eisenhower progressive quotes
proves TGT wrong again 1000 times over
There are a thousand more for TGT, please take your time in reviewing the material
and for a reference of where the Conservatives were 50 years ago
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Feb 26, 2015 - 06:27pm PT
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Eisenhower believed in the Constitutional limits of his office.
"Progressives" see the Constitution as an inconvenience to be ignored, circumvented and if they had their way abolished.
Starting with the bill of rights.
"Progressives" (really Marxists with a slower fuse) believe that your rights are granted by government.
bow down to your betters Serfs!
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 26, 2015 - 06:31pm PT
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Thanks for the entertainment TGT
You really know how to present the wacko side of the issue while acting as a complete wacko without knowing that you are the wacko!!
Please, tell us more
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 26, 2015 - 06:38pm PT
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Thanks for the entertainment TGT
You really know how to present the wacko side of the issue while acting as a complete wacko without knowing that you the wacko!!
When in Rome...
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Feb 26, 2015 - 06:39pm PT
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LOL TGT if you think Obama is trying to be "King" you sure don't have a clue what Lincoln did. If you hate Obama you really should hate Lincoln.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 26, 2015 - 06:40pm PT
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Thanks for posting my post again Sketch
What's the point?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 26, 2015 - 06:42pm PT
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BTW, not voting in lock-step with one's party registration is only called hypocrisy in the Limbaugh crowd.
It's not about voting straight ticket. It's about (you) consistently voting against your party for the last decade and pretending to still support the party.
Hypocrisy.
Sad.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 26, 2015 - 07:31pm PT
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This awesome.
Both Poseur Republicans have their cycles synced.
Easy boys. It'll pass.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 26, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
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Percentage of people that are delusionally brainwashed
69% of Republicans
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Feb 27, 2015 - 11:45am PT
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Tronald Dump..
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Feb 27, 2015 - 12:50pm PT
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I think it was Jay Leno who once said something like:
"Only two man made objects can be seen from outer space. The great wall of China, and Donald Trump's hair".
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Feb 27, 2015 - 01:12pm PT
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Craig Fry wrote:
Raising the minimum wage on the other hand has been proven to stimulate the economy, create jobs and improve the general welfare of the people.
It's a simple formula:
give workers at the bottom end more money, which they spend, which creates demand, which creates jobs etc.
Craig,
I'm no wizard on economics (how's that for a straight man setup), but if this simple formula really works, why not give workers at the bottom even more? Is there a point where the simple formula stops working? Who determines that point and how do they reach that figure?
This could be called trickle up economics. Maybe it works great. In that case, I say bump the minimum wage up to $50 / hour and let's get this economy rolling.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Feb 27, 2015 - 02:20pm PT
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Good point Larry... We have a minimum wage law for the masses...Now we need a maximum wage law where the government limits how much a CEO earns..Fair is fair , right...?
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