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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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It's not my line, but someone said
"I'm not the least bit afraid of being dead, it's the transition which concerns me."
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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I remember a quote from a an Iraqi farmer. He was asked if was worried about dying during the 2nd time the US invaded:
"We do not fear death, it only comes once"
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Captain...or Skully
climber
in the oil patch...Fricken Bakken, that's where
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 2, 2014 - 08:08am PT
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Some interesting replies, assuredly.
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nah000
climber
canuckistan
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MH2: thanks for a truth based chuckle.
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John M
climber
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So the thread indicates many of you fear not the death.. FUNNY,, since you are the ones that when faced with a spooky move, or pitch, decide to BAIL!
What is it you feared there ,, again??
Whats funny about it Ron? What I fear is being paralyzed or so broken that I can't take care of myself.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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I think there is a difference between intellectually/emotionally "fearing or not" death and the body's reaction to imminent death when in a seriously compromised situation. While I don't believe I am afraid to die (prefer it not be messy or prolonged) I suspect my body would react in a life saving manner if I were to be in a crashing plane, sketchy climb or event.
When I was on chemo and in some support groups there were women who were terminal and just didn't want to prolong the sucky quality of life by continuing chemo when all they were buying was a few more agonizing months. They knew, and chose, to die. Were they afraid and anxious? Yes to a certain degree but overall they came to a peace about bringing it to a close. I think that is the state that most people want to be in when facing natural death either from old age or a lingering illness.
So while one may not emotionally or intellectually be afraid of death, they hopefully aren't stupid enough to bring it on by their own careless actions. Not being afraid of death is vastly different than thinking you suddenly have a license to be stupid.
Susan
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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I dunno. I guess most of my ancestors who didn't fear death got weeded out.
Your ancestors who did fear death got weeded out too. If you're talking about your ancestors, obviously they reproduced, whether they feared death or not.
Maybe you meant to say something like: "my ancestors likely feared death, which enabled them to stay alive long enough to reproduce, and I beleive that is a heritable trait?"
Just trying to add a little coherence here.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Lets get this right.
When climbing we must not fear death yet also maintain a keen situational
awareness of how the slightest mistake will lead to death in the next few seconds.
You'd have to be crazy to want to be cured of this hobby by going to a shrink. Catch22.
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John M
climber
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Great post Susan..
Of course on some level I fear death. I have certainly fought very hard to stay alive the few times it stared me in the face. When I say I don't fear death, it has more to do with the aftermath, and perhaps with a certain amount of feeling tired of my current status.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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+1 to Susuan.
Death is change.
Change is stressful.
Stress without time to adjust to it is scary.
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jstan
climber
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At Facelift I experienced a feeling new to me. In the next campsite a singer guitarist performed a love song for life that caused me to think
that's the only bad thing about death. I won't get to hear such beautiful things any more.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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oohhhh.
let's entertain death!
bring on every gawdamn literary
cliche that has been
or hopes to be.
f*#k beyond between the breasts.
she is a she
and i'm partial,
but far from sexist.
there i was.
and beyond beckoned.
who among us wields the discipline
to deny the siren's call?
not me.
daily,
i am in and out of death.
it ain't no big deal.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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command death.
sprinkle it upon life
as necessary.
it really ain't an ultimatum;
more of an ongoing relation.
then when i arrive at
a threshold,
i am duly trained.
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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I don't.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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A fear of the death of society that is not a physical but intellectual matter is a fear I have, or rather disappointment in humans. Shoot, I might be in the wrong clinic?
The walking/living dead is fearful, good old death is inevitable!
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MisterE
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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If you are lucky enough to live to the point where old age and degradation of the physical self occurs with ever-increasing rapidity, I tell you this:
At least the pain will end.
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Anastasia
climber
Home
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When you are faced with your mortality knowing death is holding your number, knows you by name... It's a cold bleak place and so very, very final. Of coarse it is scary. All the theories of the after life, all the religious ideology sometimes feels so paper thin. You want solid answers and they come in the form of faith in this world of science... I do prefer my science and science doesn't give comforting answers about death.
I myself am facing my nemesis again and... Eventually it will get the final shot. It's an interesting place to stand facing that. All I know is we all are survivors of a million chances of losing our lives that somehow didn't happen "today." Yet we all die... We all will walk that road and... We all will find out.
I might make my peace with death, I might even become ready and accept my fate... Yet unafraid... No, I will simply be accepting my fear as part of letting go. In the end it is what it is and there is no escaping it.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Death is just a transition most people would rather forget.
But those with a high enough responsibility will walk forward into the new life again.
Because "I" never dies.
There are those who believe this, and those who know it, because they can remember.
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snowhazed
Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
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I don't fear my own death.
I sometimes fear the deaths of my loved ones.
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j-tree
Big Wall climber
Typewriters and Ledges
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I don't fear my own death. I do fear dying in a painful and protracted manner.
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