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Peter
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 31, 2014 - 05:49pm PT
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Adult male maybe early 30s decided to free solo up almost the full height of the central area at PGSF today and decked. It made a nasty sound when he landed. He was carted out on a backboard but was conscious with no limbs sticking out at weird angles. I didn't see the fall but everyone heard the landing.
Anyone have any details? Was the guy of sound mind and what is the damage?
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Aug 31, 2014 - 07:11pm PT
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Wow . I usually can't sneeze without someone checking my knot or belay technique at PG Sunnyvale , I'm surprised someone didn't see him and try to talk him down ....
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Matt's
climber
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Aug 31, 2014 - 07:42pm PT
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lucky no one became his personal crash pad.
he could very well be fine, they seem to back board anyone and everyone
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 31, 2014 - 07:44pm PT
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Stupid gym monkey behavior
Shocking
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Peter
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2014 - 07:47pm PT
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It seemed like he fell at least 30 ft based on where witnesses said he fell from. My intuition is that he was a novice and had no idea what he was doing. If he has no serious injury he is going to be sore as hell for a few days.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Aug 31, 2014 - 08:08pm PT
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I wonder how long it will take for PG to get a letter from his attorney.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Aug 31, 2014 - 08:21pm PT
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I wonder how long it will take for PG to get a letter from his attorney.
Right, because responsible climbing gyms should have climbers on a leash and collar with their own personal safety attendant.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Aug 31, 2014 - 09:12pm PT
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Ground fall Floor fall - landing on mats.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Aug 31, 2014 - 09:33pm PT
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he could very well be fine, they seem to back board anyone and everyone
That's because it's called Mechanism of Injury. Standard EMS protocol. Since BLS/ALS personal don't have pocket CT/MRI scanners handy, they always take the side of caution. They did the right thing.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Aug 31, 2014 - 10:57pm PT
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Stupid gym monkey behavior
Shocking yeah cuz nobody solos outside
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Aug 31, 2014 - 11:36pm PT
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Good thing the floor is as soft as the grades.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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glad I wasn't there today...
the floors are nice but I wouldn't want to fall from 30' onto them...
and I agree that the grades are soft, softer than the floors, I topped out at 5.11a yesterday and finally fell off a 5.11b (that would be a full number grade difference with the out of doors, unless not climbing for 3 months made me better).
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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If you fall from more than a body length or have a head/neck injury you're going to get backboarded and collared. Hope the guy lives to learn from his mistake.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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and I agree that the grades are soft, softer than the floors, I topped out at 5.11a yesterday and finally fell off a 5.11b (that would be a full number grade difference with the out of doors, unless not climbing for 3 months made me better).
There goes my mental image of Ed.-)
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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They're not consistant enough to be soft.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Bummer. Heal up and get back...on a rope.
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WBraun
climber
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Do they allow free soloing in the gym?
Anyways .... bottom line
Sh!t happens whether indoors or outdoors.
Best wishes to the poor guy who fell ......
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Sh#t happens. I used to work at a gym and would solo up/down/up/down for hours. Actually pretty fun... Hope he's OK
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Werner, they absolutely prohibit soloing above a certain height in the roped climbing area. I don't remember the exact rule but I think it's not getting your feet more than around 5-6 feet off the ground. Obviously you solo higher than this in the bouldering areas but in there you have lots of pads to position in addition to the soft floor.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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@phylp - the gym I worked at had a color change on the wall (white to blue) which was the 'bouldering height.' you can boulder anywhere so long as it's no higher than about 10 feet.
A good rule!
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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i have on several occasions been 20'+ up at a gym when i realized i hadn't clipped into the auto belay. Fortunately there's always an easy route down at a gym.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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I've been there. There is no ground.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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I wonder how long it will take for PG to get a letter from his attorney. They oughta sue him! Or the person standing next to him when he decked for "severe mental and emotional trauma".
Susan
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j-tree
Big Wall climber
Typewriters and Ledges
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Well yeah, they're a gumby damnit!
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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I fell from 6-7 feet and broke my heel bone. This guy fell 30 feet and no broken bones???
A lot of gyms have floors that are roughly the equivalent of a bouncy castle.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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sween345, dude! a little warning on that ankle breaker.
90 degree angles ain't good.
hope that heals fast for her.
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Why did I even watch that? It was really disgusting. Hope she's OK.
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WBraun
climber
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Yeah
That was horrible.
Thanks for the reply phylp .....
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Seems the likelihood of the gym suing him would be higher than the guy using (edit: suing) the gym. The gym has clear rules he violated, and in doing so endangered the other customers. Even if he didn't get hurt, there's a good chance it could impact the gym's insurance rates which is a material financial damage. But I'm a legal idiot nonlawyer, just spewing on a forum for no apparent reason, so take me with a grain of salt.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Really? Several? Yes several. But I don't partoke of that any more. That may or may not be related.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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This is why I don't climb in gyms....
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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it makes you realize that NOT decking is the name of the game
Yep. part of my training program for new outdoor climbers questioning their gear placements is, "just don't fall".
Seems to work. (although I need to remember that too sometimes, it hurts. But I've been blessed with no broken parts...)
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Oh gawd, that ankle. Was it a break or dislocation? It was at such a 90 degree angle I woulda thought a fracture would have been compound.
Ick ick ick
Susan
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Whatever the case was, wish him a speedy recovery!
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