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Chief

climber
The NW edge of The Hudson Bay
Sep 1, 2014 - 01:48pm PT
Perfect!
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 1, 2014 - 02:14pm PT

What is the point of relationships?

Certainly we seek the relationship that will eventually allow us to feel and share through eye to eye, and body to body, and spirit to spirit the two opposite, very contrasting beings that is Man and Woman. Experiencing Organism simultaneously while true love radiates thru the eyes with the anticipation of creating another humanbeing fortified by an oath of a life-long marriage. Evolution aligned our our "most pleasurable" senses and feelings with reproduction. If sex hurt we prolly wouldn't procreate? But without the notion of procreation, man/woman seek the physical act of sex purely to resolve/create shared senses/feelings of pleasure. Is this Natural? Is it from Nature? Do we know if any other species has sex solely for the pleasure of it?
What is the point of a relationship between two spawning Salmon, and that between their hatchlings? Or what's the point between two adult Grizzly bears, and that between the mother and the cubs? Or even the more pronounced relationships we see in Elephant herds or Whale schools?

What should we point out to our children about relationships?

What does daddy Humpback tell his daughter?
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Sep 1, 2014 - 02:33pm PT
Spawning involves no touching or intimacy.

Hence, the term.

Salmon are probably not even self-aware, given their lack of neo-cortex.

If pregnancy is required for you to achieve true intimacy - I think at least some women might choose to demure. Weird, really.

Have you see elephants having sex?

Not a whole lotta tenderness there.

Humpback indeed.

SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Sep 1, 2014 - 02:35pm PT
Why does there have to be a "point"?
So things just "are". They work. Or they don't.

Susan

Tvash

climber
Seattle
Sep 1, 2014 - 03:15pm PT
Intimacy has no 'purpose'.

It IS the purpose.

If you can find it in any form, you can safely say you've truly lived.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 1, 2014 - 03:23pm PT

Why does there have to be a "point"?

The mere fact that we're able to make it a point, is my point. It's an important distinction IMO that seperates us from the animals. Shouldn't we celebrate the fact and hold it up like a trophy?
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Sep 1, 2014 - 03:44pm PT
It's an important distinction IMO that seperates us from the animals.
Well, technically we aren't separate from animals. My point is that often we get into an "analysis - paralysis" in overthinking relationships, be they intimate or friendships. This over thinking relationships can punch holes in the fluidity of a connection.
The most important relationship one has is with his/her self. The rest is frosting on the cake or a turd in the punch bowl. Your life, your choice.
Susan
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Canada
Sep 1, 2014 - 04:03pm PT
A good relationship on any level shouldn't be about achieving a trophy, BLUEBLOCR.

Thanks for your eloquence and logic, Largo and Chief.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 1, 2014 - 04:19pm PT
The trophy i'm polishing is the fact we have a free-will choice of slipping on a rubber, or not. Animals?
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Canada
Sep 1, 2014 - 04:23pm PT
Keep polishing, no need for a rubber...
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Sep 1, 2014 - 04:45pm PT
Relationships are a trade off.

An opportunity to grow that limits your opportunities to grow

Sex at the expense of hassle free sex

Companionship at the expense of a variety of companions

Money saved at the expense of money spent

I think yin yang
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 2, 2014 - 08:22am PT
Love.

That is the only point of a relationship.

The rest is just contract law, boring stuff.

DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 2, 2014 - 08:23am PT
Sex at the expense of hassle free sex

Companionship at the expense of a variety of companions

Strictly theoretical.

DMT
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Sep 2, 2014 - 08:45am PT
Jesus, who keeps their trophies into adulthood when you can use that display case for limited edition figurines and commemorative plates instead?
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Sep 2, 2014 - 08:46am PT
One can't have a variety of companions when engaged in an intimate relationship?

Sucks to be you, I guess.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Sep 2, 2014 - 08:47am PT

Jesus, who keeps their trophies into adulthood when you can use that display case for limited edition figurines and commemorative plates instead?

Beanie Babies.

Susan
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Sep 2, 2014 - 09:03am PT
The time and energy spent on an intimate relationship inevitably takes time and energy away from other relationships, intimate ones especially.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

It's a game of give and take

AKA trade off

Can be great, can suck

The possibilities are endless
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Sep 2, 2014 - 09:31am PT
There is a special feeling I get when I am home alone,
chopping vegetables and preparing dinner,
playing music and lighting some candles,
anticipating the arrival home of the woman I love.

It's not just about getting laid. But that's nice.
It's not just about having a warm body there to hug. That's nice too.
It's blissful, indulgent, funny, comforting, peaceful, challenging, relaxing, exciting,
it's what drugs try to imitate but without the side-effects,
it supports you to be the person you want to be,
and patiently accepts you when you're not.
It inspires you to give of yourself
in a way that feels like a privilege rather than a burden.

I can't say it's the right road for everyone, but I've tried a few roads in life.
I would be foolish to focus on what I give up by being in a relationship,
without recognizing the abundance of goodness that comes with being in a relationship
with the right person.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Sep 2, 2014 - 09:43am PT
It's not a zero sum game if you include your SO with your pals. A solid SO can make all those relationships richer.

If that doesn't happen, perhaps one or more of your pals or your SO is the problem, not the basic dynamic in general.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 2, 2014 - 10:27am PT
Perhaps you should be less preachy about other peoples' relationships Tvash.

Wouldn't that be nice.

And stop projecting too while you're at it. I think YOU are the problem.

DMT
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