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Banquo

climber

Amerricka

Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 28, 2014 - 04:16pm PT

...a D5 or A5 hammer in good shape. I don't really need another hammer but I seem to have a collection going and can't seem to stop my self.

I will trade for the Dammerr of your choice. BUT WAIT, there's more! I will also give you a brand new drill holder.

=> Dammerr 4 has a wood handle, is 14 inches long and weighs 25.7 ounces. There are some small dings in this one because it had a different handle which didn't fit very well and I had to remove the rivet to change handles.

=> Dammerr 5 has a fiberglass handle, is 13-1/2 inches long and weighs 26.7 ounces.

=> The drill holder is 4-1/8 inches long and weighs 8.1 ounces.

If you want your hammer lighter, I can cut down the face a little bit in the horizontal band saw. The heads are 4-1/8 inches long now and the 1-1/4 square steel weighs 7 ounces per inch. I think I could shave about an ounce off without screwing it up too bad. I have some other drill holders if this one isn't to your liking.

If you are up for a trade, post a photo of your hammer. If I say yes, I will send your Dammerr and holder as soon as your hammer arrives.

If nobody wants to trade their A5/D5, I would be happy to entertain other trades.

Banquo

climber

Amerricka

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 29, 2014 - 11:08am PT

Bumping this.

The hammer is the result of my study of hammers for drilling. The design is based on The McDevitt hammer but a bit lighter as I believe this is better for the sustained hammering required for drilling. The McDevitt is probably a better piton hammer. I think mine will work just fine for the occasional piton.

See: http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2452955/Making-a-new-hammer

The holder is the result of my effort to make a better holder. It's debatable whether or not I achieved that but there are people using this holder and I haven't had any complaints yet. These holders have appeared in some of my drilling threads. They are what I used in these tests:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2190293/3-8-SDS-drills-faster-than-1-4-SDS

couchmaster

climber

Aug 29, 2014 - 12:13pm PT

Right here Dan. I'll trade one of my D5's (the best one which I was saving, the other one is used and pretty beat up now) for the fiberglass Dammer. I'll PM details, heading out of town for @ 4 days so that's about the earliest it will ship.

Hmm, thought I had a picture here at work. Don't.

I do have .mp3 files for Neal Schon and Jan Hammer, Hammer to Fall, Maxwell's Silver Hammer along with the classic MC Hammer too if that's a small consolation. Have photo over next week. If someone has one and wants to trade it now, go for it! Don't let me impede progress and the march of science.

Here's a picture of some other hammers till I can get my sh#t together.

Note that the shorter Forrest (2nd from left) is on permaloan to a buddy till the guy dies and then I'll have to pry it out of the relatives hands. Furthermore, except for the A5 that Marty sold me there, most of them are much more beat by now. The one on the right I cracked the handle and don't have the head now. The Bridwell Kong is now used and so more beat up and looks different. I was taking the Forrest out too and it's pretty well worn. I think I was not touching the A5 there. Marty said that he'd sewn that sling on it when he was working for Fish. That's why it looks so good, they didn't come that way.

Check out the interesting subtle differences on the Forrests...the pick shape, handle material, length of handle and sling attachments are all different.....The shorter one, just seemed like the other day I was putting on that new sling to replace the crap that was on it.

...anyway, I'll get you a pic of the D5 after I locate it and dig it out, but it's essentially an untouched new one. I bought 2 (this pic was @ 2008 and so of course before I got them). Beat up one and was saving the other.

Banquo

climber

Amerricka

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2014 - 03:52am PT

Awesome, the fiberglass handle hammer and drill holder have a home.

The wood handle hammer is still available. I'd happily consider any trades or offers.

couchmaster

climber

Sep 2, 2014 - 07:40am PT

OK, checking in to confirm that this trade is still live or did someone else trade for your Dammerr and drill holder Dan? Got home last night and started digging out hammers. Here's some hammer photos to warm you up. I was down at the coast and looks like I got some salt water or crap on my cell camera lenses. The story still shows up though.

2 Forrest Wall Hammers, one used, one perfect.

I didn't need 2 Bridwell Hammers but a buddy had bought his to do an El Cap route and disliked it, he wanted my newish Chouinard investment cast head and despite the fact that I didn't need 2 of the beasts: generally being the agreeable sort we traded. He went and did another El Cap route days later and was much happier. His is the middle one, and you can see the updated version from the pic above on the left. To the right is the other D5 hammer.

2 D5 Hammers. Your's has the blue handle. I bought 2, put one away and occasionally used the other.

The other side of the blue handle D5.

I didn't see any flaws on it but my eyes are going and don't want to make any false representations. I put it in a plastic sack when I bought it and tossed it in the gear box. Did the same with Martys A5 (not pictured here, looks perfect Marty!) and that Forrest one that looks brand new.

Related photo. No climbing hammers touched these Dungeness Crabs. Used my Hart finish hammer to crack them up well in advance of noshing.

Banquo

climber

Amerricka

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2014 - 08:17am PT

The D5 looks great, the fiberglass handle hammer and drill holder are yours. You have some cool hammers, I like the brand new Forrest wall hammer.

If anybody wants to trade a hammer, let me know. I still have the wood handled one and can make custom hammers of any weight or handle.

I don't have a Kong (Bridwell), CMI, A5, older Chouinard, or...

I might also be interested in other old, unusual or interesting gear.

couchmaster

climber

Sep 3, 2014 - 08:03am PT

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE................each box has a special surprise!

Banquo noted:

"I don't have a Kong (Bridwell), CMI, A5, older Chouinard, or...I might also be interested in other old, unusual or interesting gear. "

I was going to just toss it in and surprise you, but thought I'd better announce it or you might go buy one. In the interest of furthering science and your investigations, I'll toss in a CMI Hammer with the D5 for you as I have....errr....HAD 2. I've been sending one out with friends when they borrow my bolting stuff. I might stop the loaner program though, darned Bosches are expensive and seeing a botched install from the loanee/part time "route setter" makes me question my own intelligence.

Not this gorgeous and classic CMI Hammer: I'm keeping that one. The one with the shitty sling you liked upthread:-) BTW, the guys initials whom I bought this from were embroidered into the sling, that's not felt tip. $19 (plus another $6 shipping off Ebay in 2009 FYI. Probably worth triple by now?) Hope you like it.

BTW, if you need any roll pins, speak up now what size you need and I'll toss some in the box. But it has to be today as the box is getting picked up at 3pm.

Banquo

climber

Amerricka

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 5, 2014 - 05:09pm PT

Unfortunately I didn't see couchmaster's last post about the extra hammer so didn't manage to send him anything extra. So, I got a nice surprise when his box showed up. Two hammers, D5 #002 in perfect condition and a sweet CMI hammer.

Anyway, I still have stuff to trade. Of course, since I am in debt to him, couchmaster can have his pick for free.

Edit: I guess there is a limit on photo caption length since it got chopped. Anyway, the two holders at yop right have cord slings which work better than the cable ones. Below that are three holders with cables and at the bottom are some shorty holders.

Greg Barnes

climber

Sep 5, 2014 - 07:05pm PT

Hey Dan, interested in a Cassin hammer - new in bag?

On left, with my two cut-down ones on tbe right.

Detail of the cutoffs - slicker newer one on the right. Shaves about 3.5 ounces off the approx. 23.5 ounce weight.

I wouldn't mind checking out a shorty holder, although with 2 Petzls and 3 Hurricanes I really don't need another. If you're looking for other stuff I might be able to dig out enough to trade for a hammer as well, or I could just throw in more with the hammer since I'll probably use a flat rate box anyway. I've recently dug out more unused funky weird bolts that are not recommended for climbing (but get used anyway). I don't remember which weird bolts I sent you last time.

Banquo

climber

Amerricka

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 6, 2014 - 08:26am PT

Sure Greg, I'd be happy to trade one of the shorty holders for your hammer. You may have 5 drill holders but I've got many more than that. I have your address and can send it on its way if you confirm. Of course you are always welcome to stop by and save postage if you are going through Morgan Hill.

I'd be willing to trade one of my hammers for something but don't know what you have to offer. I'm pretty burned out on testing bolts and have a box of bolts and things I should break.

mucci

Trad climber

The pitch of Bagalaar above you

Sep 6, 2014 - 11:29am PT

Dan's holders kick serious ass on the drilling front.

Our team switched over to them for 3/8 holes.

Glad there has been interest.

His dammer is very nice couch, you won't be disappointed.

Greg Barnes

climber

Sep 6, 2014 - 11:38am PT

Emailed you my new address.

Cool, I'm psyched to check out the small drill. There've been a few times where I've drilled a 1/4" simply because the rock was too steep to use a (longer) 3/8" bit. Years back I tried a few of the shorty Euro 10mm bits but they disintegrated immediately.

Hopefully you can really torque the drill (so if you're expanding a 1/4" hole and it gets caught you can crank on it to break out rock bits)...even if not I'd still like to try it for FAs!

Another hammer is low on my list, but if you think of stuff you need that I might have, let me know.

Banquo

climber

Amerricka

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 6, 2014 - 02:02pm PT

Have boxed up the hammer with black tape on the handle and a shorty drill holder. I'll send them off to Greg on Monday.

I've had mixed but mostly bad luck with the short 10mm drills too. Too bad I can't find any good ones since they would be perfect for drilling climbing bolts.

I've clamped a drill bit in a vice and torqued the holder with a wrench until the shank of the drill bit twisted like taffy. I'd say it's safe to use a wrench and twist all you want.

couchmaster

climber

Sep 6, 2014 - 08:47pm PT

Quoted:

"couchmaster can have his pick for free."

Thats real nice of you. The CMI was a gift to you, no need for any reciprocity although it's real real nice to hear the offer. Seriously, I have too many hammers already, your hammer and drill holder are plenty. Mucci just vouched for you so I know it's gonna be kick ass:-)

BTW, I think 001 might have had a cracked head, so it's possible you have first in the series? (Maybe someone can speak up about that) You might keep that hammer and not beat it up too bad ....maybe someone can swing by and let you test with their D5...?

Anyway, best to you on the experimentations! Woot!

Captain...or Skully

climber

in the oil patch...Fricken Bakken, that's where

Sep 6, 2014 - 08:53pm PT

Hammer Geeks.....Who'd have thunk THAT?
Lol.

couchmaster

climber

Sep 9, 2014 - 04:06pm PT

GEAR geeks Captian. Hammers are just part of that. BTW, THE HAMMER YOU SENT ME LOOKS FANTASTIC. Swings nicely, very well crafted. The drill bit, not so sure of the little button socket capscrews to hold the drill bit in there. However, I will take it out at some point and put it to good use.

Thanks for the timely delivery.

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Sep 9, 2014 - 05:01pm PT

I do believe you are correct that #001 was one of the cracked heads...

Banquo

climber

Amerricka

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 10, 2014 - 07:35am PT

the button head cap screws on the drill holder are set in red loctite which excels in resisting impact forces. I've never had them come loose but if you take it apart, you'd better clean and degrease the threads then glue it all back together.