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Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 26, 2014 - 06:00pm PT
Hi Folks,

Sorry about the Cerro Torre yes/no question.

I realize now, it was just plain dumb! As there was virtually nothing positive on the thread, I did the right thing and dumped it

Still, you live and learn.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 26, 2014 - 06:04pm PT
Were you bullied?
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Aug 26, 2014 - 06:18pm PT
Avery, you flopped then chopped.
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Aug 26, 2014 - 06:23pm PT
No biggy.
Tough crowd though eh?
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Aug 26, 2014 - 06:27pm PT
you live and learn

Yes and no!
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Aug 26, 2014 - 06:29pm PT
Just don't flip and chip.
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2014 - 06:55pm PT
If, as the pundits claim, the whole yes/no thing was a non starter. Deleting the thread was the common sense thing to do.

Please, don't tell me the same people who were rubbishing the concept are now bagging me for removing it.

You can't have it both ways!
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
Aug 26, 2014 - 06:57pm PT
You can't have it both ways!
Uh? New ST rule?
Susan
this just in

climber
north fork
Aug 26, 2014 - 06:58pm PT
I didn't see the thread, but sounds like you started a climbing thread and an ethical thread. Those quickly turn into a religious and political thread. I enjoy your posts Avery, no need to apologize.
John M

climber
Aug 26, 2014 - 07:06pm PT
who is bagging on you for chopping it?

maybe realize that people have different senses of humor.

they also have their own hang ups and weirdnesses.

the internet seems to bring out the contrariness in people.. But it can also just be people going for a joke that falls flat..
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 26, 2014 - 07:12pm PT
Avery...lighten up. Your thread was far from the worst to populate this forum. Jeez, it was even about climbing...fancy that!
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Aug 26, 2014 - 07:21pm PT
I just hope the compressor stays up there, it looks really cool in photos.
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Aug 26, 2014 - 07:28pm PT
The Rotten Log of Patagonia.
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2014 - 07:33pm PT
I still remember, in the early 80's. Bill Denz, wild eyed, tightly clutching a cigarette, raving with amazement and awe about the infamous compressor. It's amazing how attitudes change.
Bill spent months in the early 80's trying to solo the compressor route, coming within 300ft a couple of times.
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2014 - 07:35pm PT
I tell you John M,

Kiwis and North Americans operate on different wavelengths.
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Aug 26, 2014 - 07:35pm PT
Thanks Avery. It was the right thing to do. Plus I know you've got better in you.
More New Zealand pcis please.

Arne
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 26, 2014 - 07:36pm PT
Ah....the compressor. A number of years ago I was on the headwall in a ferocious storm. I was leading the bolted pitch to the compressor in furious winds and near total whiteout. I only saw the compressor when I was a few meters away. Much to my chagrin the compressor had created a micro climate and the last three meters to it the bolts were completely covered by a gently overhanging veil of ice. I went from aiders to ice climbing mode and hooked the compressor for my last tool placement.
Greg Crouch forged ahead on the next pitch but the intensifying storm turned us around forty meters from the summit. The ensuing descent at night in hurricane conditions with malfunctioning headlamps assumed epic status.....but that is a whole other story.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 26, 2014 - 07:42pm PT
Donini, that's just plain old rad.
crankster

Trad climber
Aug 26, 2014 - 07:44pm PT
That's the real deal, donini.
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Aug 26, 2014 - 07:54pm PT
Doesn't sound like Royal Arches conditions.
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Aug 26, 2014 - 08:06pm PT
No apology needed. I have started much dumber threads than that. Bandwidth is free for users, and much more hot air has been wasted on politics and religion here.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Aug 26, 2014 - 08:08pm PT
donini, that sounds desperate.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Aug 26, 2014 - 08:26pm PT
Please, don't tell me the same people who were rubbishing the concept are now bagging me for removing it.


Never saw the thread.

Drop the drama, walk away.....
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2014 - 08:29pm PT
Define what you mean by drama, "bluering'
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2014 - 08:32pm PT
DMT, sorry, but I need subtitles.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Aug 26, 2014 - 09:06pm PT
No other post will possibly match donini's. Time to nuke this thread.
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2014 - 09:23pm PT
Whatever you say, apogee.
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2014 - 10:05pm PT
Join the club! moosedrool

It seems to be the "International take the Piss out of Avery Week"
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2014 - 10:09pm PT
Tell me something, am I being to "nice".

If I am it can easily be remedied, but I'm reluctant to change because that means I'll be like everyone else.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 26, 2014 - 10:49pm PT
No, you're not being too nice Avery. It's just that you've entered the Supertopo Crazy Hall Of Mirrors. People all changing shapes n sh#t, like they're on acid.
Everyone has a different sense of humor/outrage, some are just trying to be clever, some trying to have fun, some just plain old rude.
On top of that, everyone's writing style is different, and it's super easy to get into misunderstandings when you can't see someone's eyes or hear their tone or see body language, which are all very helpful clues when communicating.


No other post will possibly match donini's. Time to nuke this thread.



I once did the Nutcracker when it was a bone chilling 68 degrees and there was a very slippery booger at the crux of the mantle. EPIIIIIC!!!
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Aug 26, 2014 - 11:17pm PT
"International take the Piss out of Avery Week"

You aren't going to last very long around here with a victim mentality like that.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 26, 2014 - 11:26pm PT
Dude, you cast your line and reel in the results, you can angle to catch certain people, certain sorts of responses, but you never known what sort of nibbles and ultimately, catch, you're going to get.

This a good catch.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 26, 2014 - 11:29pm PT
That's still a winner TR there Jefe!
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2014 - 12:40am PT
You obviously know next to nothing about Kiwi humor, apogee.
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2014 - 12:43am PT
Tell me something I don't know, Jebus H Bomz

Hey there Jebus, do you read a lot of Oscar Wilde?
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2014 - 12:48am PT
It's moments like this,

When I think I knew how God most have felt when he realized he'd outwitted himself by giving Americans a brain.
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2014 - 05:12am PT
Good Day to you.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Aug 27, 2014 - 07:51am PT
G'day, mate!

(See? I know all about kiwis!)
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 27, 2014 - 07:59am PT
What this thread needs is a climbing pic.

thekidcormier

Gym climber
squamish, b.c.
Aug 27, 2014 - 08:02am PT
To delete is to retreat
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Aug 27, 2014 - 11:34am PT
To post is to boast
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2014 - 02:45pm PT
Whatever you say, DMT.
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Aug 27, 2014 - 03:05pm PT
To nuke is to rebuke.
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2014 - 07:58pm PT
Thanks prrrdylady, looks like NZ dodged a bullet.
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2014 - 08:00pm PT
I would expect nothing less, DMT
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Aug 27, 2014 - 08:38pm PT
Perhaps Avery is a little more serious than some other New Zealandites.

The sheep jokes are strong in other cultures too. About 20 years back I overnighted in Jackson WY at the home of a friend that worked in a local fishing shop. The other guest was a New Zealand fishing guide.

During a long evening of drinking and story-telling, we discovered that our fairly large collection of sheep jokes were nearly identical.


A very short ST thread on Sheep. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2369823&msg=2369846#msg2369846
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Aug 27, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
Avery, are ewe a baaa'd boy?
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Aug 27, 2014 - 09:03pm PT
So the thread got chopped but the bolts are still there?
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2014 - 11:14pm PT

"When you are left with only one lip, it better be the stiff, upper one."



I'll go out on a limb Jim Brennan and take that as a compliment.
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2014 - 11:18pm PT
I'm sorry Fritz, I've never heard of New Zealandites, perhaps you mean New Zealanders. Your knowledge is clearly extensive.
j-tree

Big Wall climber
Typewriters and Ledges
Aug 27, 2014 - 11:27pm PT
Avery,
Now you're just a troll. No better than any of them.

sad but seemingly still true, even in his apology thread.
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2014 - 12:22am PT
Tell me j-tree what is a troll. I honestly don't know!

Tell me what to do with this thread?
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2014 - 12:31am PT
To be brutally honest, J Tree, I've had a guts full of being the object of continuous piss taking. So, I made up my mind to return fire with fire.

I'm in a no win situation. If I say nothing I'm gutless if i fight back I'm accused of being a troll.

Th old Avery that everybody says is gone, is a direct result of constant insults, masquerading as humor.

Even if I threaten to delete it, I'm told that's not the thing to do.

Maybe the best thing to do is leave you all to yourselves.
Avery

climber
NZ
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2014 - 12:50am PT
Good bye and good riddance! (No, I'm not deleting the thread)
j-tree

Big Wall climber
Typewriters and Ledges
Aug 28, 2014 - 12:54am PT
The right answer is that there's no response to a troll.

The serious answer is to post content when you have it, don't post content when you don't. More importantly, when you do post content, don't defend it if it's attacked because you don't have to. If you have a reason to post something, that's defense enough. There's no winners or losers here or anywhere on the internet.

The funny answer is
Anastasia

climber
Home
Aug 28, 2014 - 01:11am PT
No worries, I myself have my BoobGate. It was posted as a joke and became something super explosive bad. Argh...
AFS
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Aug 28, 2014 - 06:23am PT
Avery, you being called a troll by Jtree is simply a complement. Jtree climbs too much, but may evolve with time.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 28, 2014 - 06:28am PT
Avery's ok with me!

drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Aug 28, 2014 - 06:32am PT
Gotta say Avery, you have one of the weirdest fûcking posting histories I've ever seen.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Aug 28, 2014 - 08:29am PT
DMT nails it:
That's it - claim insult and forgive your defective kiwi humor.

There's nothing wrong with KIWI humor, Avery just doesn't have any.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 28, 2014 - 08:37am PT
Psilocyborg

climber
Aug 28, 2014 - 05:17pm PT
Avery, you need a healthy dose of LSD. Then it will all become crystal clear.
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