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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 23, 2014 - 12:36pm PT
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It is also easy to forget that many, I'd say most, muslims are peaceful people. And that in the areas where ISIS is located, those peaceful people are being eradicated.
It is the nature of things that when a violent, aggressive power runs up against a peaceful, passive power, the latter tends to suffer mightily. Right now, it is largely muslims that are suffering from encounters with ISIS.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Aug 23, 2014 - 06:27pm PT
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Is this thread gonna disappear like the last one?
Yo ISIS, guess what? Hell is coming for you from the wings of the greatest Air Force and Navy pilots in the world.
That's worked so well in the past, right? In fact, the only beneficiaries are the "defense" industries.
The arms we left, are now being used by the Islamic State. They captured 52 155mm howitzers. Ever see one in action?
I think Baghdad is going down. Eventually, someone will slip them AA rockets and we'll lose some planes. We'll need to evacuate our wasted Billion Dollar Embassy. All the Shia need to do, will convert. Here's a clue.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Aug 23, 2014 - 07:12pm PT
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There are many, who view the Sadaam Hussein days, with nostalgia. The Islamic State, will stabilize the region, eventually. It's the kind of harsh administration, required in the Islamic World.
Bear in mind, the people living in Northern Iraq, let us twist in the wind for ten years. There has to be a downside for failure to support our efforts to make them a viable country. They can enjoy the benefits of Sharia Law.
The State is different than other terrorist groups, they have administration skills.
What we do need to do though, is destroy all our stuff they captured. I think Iran can "contain" them to the East. Eventually, they will be on the Israeli border.
The danger for us, is when they operate in Turkey. That's a NATO ally.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 23, 2014 - 07:21pm PT
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John, D, there is danger in this for us.
I believe it is to attack all muslims, everywhere. Remember that they DO have nukes (Pakistan). Turning those relative moderates into our enemies is probably not the right strategy....or any other moderates.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Aug 23, 2014 - 07:24pm PT
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My Gawd does NO ONE remember the "NUKE A GAY WHALE UNTIL IT GLOWS" campaign?
So we have a President who has mentally checked out of his job.
So we have a bunch of armed loonies running around in sand dunes.
So we have a Talking Duck with smoke blowing out its ass.
Come one peeps - this is just another in a long line of pseudo-crises concocted by "Involved Parties" to get us to justify spending BILLIONS more fake dollars to DEFEND THE FREE WORLD (patent pending).
So this prick got Chopped - ever watch Game of Thrones?
This is America.
We LIVE for this sh#t.
Just dump some ICE WATER on somebody and write a check and get over it because next week some OTHER CRISES will be the tweetoftheday.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 23, 2014 - 07:28pm PT
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Ricky D -- "We LIVE for this sh#t."
Nope .... I sure don't.
Only stupid Americans like you do ......
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Aug 23, 2014 - 07:29pm PT
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Hessian F*#khead.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Aug 23, 2014 - 07:42pm PT
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I don't think 10% of the overweight slugs I see sporting a US Military Uniform, could've kept up with one of my AIT "Speed Marches". I'm starting to have a greater appreciation for the 2d amendment, when the millions of Muslims here start going apesh#t.
I do believe that Turkey is their number one priority. They need it, as a gateway for the thousands of recruits they have pouring in from all over the world.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Aug 23, 2014 - 08:00pm PT
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Don't get bent Chief - but since I live surrounded by SandBoxVets I can attest that these ESCAPEESFROMKANSASTRAILERPARKS have been turned into jackedupspeedfreaks by your beloved Military.
Better living through chemistry and all that jazz.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 23, 2014 - 09:53pm PT
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I'm with this guy:
As I sit here constantly hearing and watching you execute innocent men, women and children in the Middle East I chuckle. Why do I chuckle you may ask? Well let me explain something to you cowardice fools who think you are so tough behind all your propaganda videos. You are scaring a population that doesn’t know how to fight, you’re bullying the weak.
You say Islam is the religion of peace,but since when does terrorizing the innocent and beheading men, women and children constitute peace? WTF? But keep in mind, what did Saddam’s troops do when we came rolling into town? They surrendered, twice… So all your empty threats of coming to America and raising your flag over the White House amuse me more than any of you sick, sadistic bastards could ever imagine or comprehend. In 2012 there was about 21.2 million veterans in the United States.
Do you understand what that means? Let me break it down for you. That means there are literally millions of disgruntled, dysfunctional, pissed off veterans who have been dealing with years of abuse from their government stabbing them in the backs and having to watch their friends die because you Islamic extremist idiots can’t seem to act like normal human beings and stop terrorism and the violence. It’s one thing to take over an Islamic state, but if my memory serves me correctly, I’m pretty sure we plowed through Fallujah in 4 days. Better yet, it took us about month to control your entire country. At this point, with 13+ years of war under our belts, how long do you think it would take us to do it all over again?
I’ll let you draw your own conclusions on that one. Do you really think you stand a chance on US soil? Do you really think it would be smart to poke that bear? Remember, never bite the hand that feeds you. Remember we are armed to the teeth in the US and I can promise you this… the Geneva Conventions will not apply to you. You attack us and there will be no mercy. We will bring the righteous hand of God down upon you and crush you. The ball is in your court now ISIS. We are more than ready to arrange your so called “meeting” with your 72 virgins and send you to your “prophet” Mohamed.”
Read more at http://patdollard.com/2014/08/we-are-more-than-ready-to-arrange-your-so-called-meeting-with-your-72-virgins-a-subtle-message-to-isis-from-a-pissed-off-military-vet/#gqvI2QFAcFBVmTVR.99
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 23, 2014 - 10:03pm PT
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I can't imagine how such "music videos" could recruit any sane human
I have a couple of re-occurring statements for current behavior.
"People are stupid" is one.
"Islamists are demons", is the other.
Ask me why I think they're demons and I'll tell you, if you're too f*#king stupid to realize it yourself.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Aug 24, 2014 - 04:00am PT
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Yeah all those "other people" are stupid. I mean I can't imagine who would be convinced of something by such a poorly constructed video. Anyway, back over to infowars and patdollard.com!
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Aug 24, 2014 - 04:02am PT
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There's a significant battle in Syria now for the Tabqa Airbase, the last remaining Assad base in Eastern Syria.
Meanwhile, the battle has claimed the life of the big mouth referred to above.
http://rt.com/usa/182256-is-spokesman-mosa-killed/
The Islamic State spokesperson who threatened the United States by pledging to “raise the flag of Allah” over the White House has been killed.
According to the US State Department, Islamic State rep Abu Mosa was killed in Syria during an attack at the Tabqa Airbase. This battle apparently involved forces under the Syrian government of Bashar Assad, which is in the midst of a deadly civil war that has raged for three years now.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 24, 2014 - 07:57am PT
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Yeah all those "other people" are stupid.
you know damn well the types I'm referring to. And no, I don't put myself on some wisdom pedestal.
I mean I can't imagine who would be convinced of something by such a poorly constructed video.
Stupid people, or Islamic demons.
Anyway, back over to infowars and patdollard.com!
Pat does have the best headlines. But yeah, Alex Jones is a little out there.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 24, 2014 - 08:13am PT
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Nile (in the above post) makes a much more eloquent point than I've been making, but we're saying the same thing.
What is really ironic here is that we, the civilized who respect innocent human life and justice, are faced with a conundrum.
We are asking these demons to do the same thing they ask of us. Convert, join our culture, or die.
There's no doubt who is right here. It's just weird how we've been forced into this situation.
Kill them all. (Winston would have said it better, I'm sure. I think he called them Mohammedans, as C.S. Lewis did).
I'm tired of having to mince words with this death-cult. They have time and time-again proven that they aren't worthy of living amongst the civil and tolerant. They spread death and intolerance. It must be rubbed out, with extreme righteousness and moral clarity.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Aug 24, 2014 - 08:35am PT
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ISIS is causing people everywhere to question the value of Abrahamic religion, whatever its form.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Aug 24, 2014 - 09:19am PT
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Dumbass Dubya not openly Pandora's Box by illegally invading Iraq, he smashed that f*#ker to pieces. Now's your chance armchair warriors....IS awaits.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 24, 2014 - 03:35pm PT
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The USA, Israel and European states are the ones who support and train these aszholes ISIS to fight as a proxy for the corporate and petro dollar interests for the corrupt western countries.
You people are so blind and so far removed by your censored and watered down controlled media.
Thus you've become Stupid Americans, arrogant and and ignorant as hell.
Well, as for those petro-dollars and corporate dalliances, where would you be without them? Think about this before you get all high and almighty, Werner!
Me and you may not need those things but would our society be as 'civilized' without progress and technology, which needs energy?
It's easy for cranky old f*#kers like you to point the finger at US, but we don't saw people's heads off in cold blood. We deliver precision-guided munitions to guilty people and try to spare the innocent.
That is how we differ from the Islamic demons. We value innocence and life.
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