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perswig

climber
Sep 1, 2014 - 04:39am PT
Assuming this love-fest has continued into September ...

The Chief, will you PM me about your metal fab pieces? I'm potentially a customer, depending on finished size/shipping. Sent you a PM couple days ago - didn't go through, maybe.

Thanks.
Dale
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Sep 1, 2014 - 04:42am PT


glanton

Sport climber
lithopeadion circus
Sep 1, 2014 - 06:58am PT
http://m.thenation.com/article/170841-exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy

Ray-gun and Atwater, the kind of leader the cheef can follow.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you libo angry ass blinded Sheep
Sep 1, 2014 - 07:22am PT
HDJ...

Your propaganda graph, how many of those were "UNARMED" victims?

How many of those were "ARMED" suspects?



DALE: PM sent.


Here is a photo of my current special order (50" wide 16g SM) project that will be completed today. That is of course if BOBda doesn't get stoooooooopid again.

The latest creation. The Minaret's and Ritter/Banner Special Order in ...
The latest creation. The Minaret's and Ritter/Banner Special Order in progress
Credit: The Chief

crankster

Trad climber
Sep 1, 2014 - 07:42am PT
Nice art. Now if we can get you to stay away from politics and stay in the shop...
moosedrool

climber
lost, far away from Poland
Sep 1, 2014 - 07:51am PT
Again, the Second Amendment is THE problem here.

Andrzej
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you libo angry ass blinded Sheep
Sep 1, 2014 - 09:49am PT
^^^^^WTF does this issue have to do with 2nd Amend, MOOSE??^^^^^













CRANKSTER. This is from me to you...


moosedrool

climber
lost, far away from Poland
Sep 1, 2014 - 10:22am PT
The Chief, the cops are scared because anybody in the USA could be armed. Thus, they are trained to react with excessive force. They are also more nervous when interacting with a suspect.

Moose
jammer

climber
Sep 1, 2014 - 11:13am PT
Chief, that looks like really cool art :). If you help disadvantaged people and make beautiful things with your free time, you must be an alright guy. If it helps at all, I formally drop all criticism of you so you can feel more free to go drop that hood :).
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you libo angry ass blinded Sheep
Sep 1, 2014 - 11:21am PT
Moose..

Most of the weapons if not all of them used in the majority of gun related crimes are illegal.

Thus the 2nd Amend is a moot point.


Jammer....

I do and have done so. Both local Native Americans and young C-Vets.
zBrown

Ice climber
BrujÚ de la Playa
Sep 1, 2014 - 04:05pm PT
most if not all in the majority = approximately some fraction between 50-100 of 51%

for full credit, show all your work

HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Sep 1, 2014 - 10:43pm PT


Chief posted
Sep 1, 2014 - 07:22am PT
HDJ...

Your propaganda graph, how many of those were "UNARMED" victims?

How many of those were "ARMED" suspects?

How many "quotes" must be "misused" before you realize that "data" is not in and of itself "propaganda?" Also, your question is specious in itself because all that would tell us is that other countries are a lot better at disarming people without killing them. Any other brilliant insights or are you just going to insult me and pretend its a strong argument for justifying American police abuse and a "justice" system (note appropriate use of quotes!) that has often turned into a source of municipal revenue instead of peace keeping.

http://qz.com/257042/these-seven-charts-explain-how-ferguson-and-many-other-us-cities-wring-revenue-from-black-people-and-the-poor/
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you libo angry ass blinded Sheep
Sep 1, 2014 - 10:58pm PT
Nice try HDJ but typical deflection.

Can you please answer the question....


How many of those 409 Cop/Shooting killings in your posted graph below were of "UNARMED" and "ARMED" individuals.




HighDesertDJ

Trad climber

Sep 1, 2014 - 10:43pm PT
Any other brilliant insights or are you just going to insult me and pretend its a strong argument for justifying American police abuse and a "justice" system (note appropriate use of quotes!) that has often turned into a source of municipal revenue instead of peace keeping.

Since you did not answer the question nor cite any viable refs that can, I will take it as YOU DO NOT KNOW.

Thus your graph is just an open ended piece of vague propaganda you posted to promote your political ideology. Typical.




This may help bring some facts to your propaganda, HDJ:

Who The Police Shoot

A vast majority of the people shot by the police in 2011 were men between the ages 25 and 40 who had histories of crime. Overall, people shot by the police were much older than the typical first-time arrestee. A significant number of the people wounded and killed by the authorities were over fifty, some in their eighties. In 2011, the police shot two 15-year-olds, and a girl who was 16.

The police shot, in 2011, about 50 women, most of whom were armed with knives and had histories of emotional distress. Overall, about a quarter of those shot were either mentally ill and/or suicidal. Many of these were "suicide-by-cop" cases.

Most police shooting victims were armed with handguns. The next most common weapon involved vehicles (used as weapons), followed by knives (and other sharp objects), shotguns, and rifles. Very few of these people carried assault weapons, and a small percentage were unarmed. About 50 subjects were armed with BB-guns, pellet guns or replica firearms.

The situations that brought police shooters and their targets together included domestic and other disturbances; crimes in progress such as robbery, assault and carjacking; the execution of arrest warrants; drug raids; gang activities; routine traffic stops; car chases; and standoff and hostage events.

Women make up about 15 percent of the nation's uniformed police services. During 2011, about 25 female police officers wounded or killed civilians. None of these officers had shot anyone in the past. While the vast majority of police officers never fire their guns in the line of duty, 15 officers who did shoot someone in 2011, had shot at least one person before. (This figure is probably low because police departments don't like to report such statistics.) Most police shootings involved members of police departments followed by sheriff's deputies, the state police, and federal officers. These shootings took place in big cities, suburban areas, towns, and in rural areas. Big city shootings comprised about half of these violent confrontations in 2011.

Reference: FBI Police shooting investigations in the US for 2011

http://jimfishertruecrime.blogspot.com/2012/01/police-involved-shootings-2011-annual.html
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Sep 2, 2014 - 02:36pm PT
Chief complained
How many of those 409 Cop/Shooting killings in your posted graph below were of "UNARMED" and "ARMED" individuals.

Ok let's pretend all the criminals were armed. Make your amazing rebuttal. Go.
glanton

Sport climber
lithopeadion circus
Sep 2, 2014 - 03:16pm PT
Bwaaahaaa, now a the cheef thinks he's a welder.

Even if there was an ounce of truth to what you spray, the smell of the dik breath negates anything that could possibly be heard.


When the turd plops,
the dipsh!ts rox.

Got it.

Nice.
couchmaster

climber
Sep 5, 2014 - 11:39am PT

Was there any truth to the rumor that the following items were NOT stolen or disturbed by looters in Ferguson, Missouri: Pens, pencils, resume kits, work boots, work gloves, work coveralls, shovels, rakes and Fatherís Day cards?


That's all I have. That and, Glanton, jesus you play an obnoxious Douchbag on the internet to the hilt.


The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 5, 2014 - 12:42pm PT
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber

Sep 2, 2014 - 02:36pm PT
Chief complained
How many of those 409 Cop/Shooting killings in your posted graph below were of "UNARMED" and "ARMED" individuals.

Ok let's pretend all the criminals were armed. Make your amazing rebuttal. Go.

What... and the truth be told?


C'mon, that would certainly put all you left-winger libbo "Cops kill unarmed people" whiners out of the equation and give you one less thing to, here it is, whine about.


Nope.

Funny how none of you have posted the requested number.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 5, 2014 - 12:56pm PT
Well this is good news. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/31/32-officers-killed-by-gunfire-nationwide-last-year-lowest-since-1887/


Also..good luck on finding any accurate info to answer Chief question.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/14/police-killings-data/14060357/
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Sep 5, 2014 - 01:20pm PT
More good news. The Ferguson police now wear cameras. The most recent statistics show that officers wearing cameras are significantly less likely to be involved in violent incidents. The data I've seen provide too small a sample for strong conclusions, but strong reason for encouragement. If nothing else, it might cause those contemplating aggressive behavorior -- whether officer or civilian -- to pause.

It might also shut the rest of us up when we want to jump to conclusions over who was right or wrong in a specific incident.

John
crankster

Trad climber
Sep 5, 2014 - 03:14pm PT
There are no conclusions as of yet, only observations.
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