Robin Williams--suicide RIP


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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Aug 11, 2014 - 08:33pm PT
"But it is fact that those who suffer from suicide are the loved ones left behind."

True, but it's also a fact that anyone who chooses a climbing lifestyle like ours or Matthew Green's does so with the reality that there might well come a day when we don't return from the mountains for one reason or another. Yet we still go...knowing this is the case...isn't that similarly inconsiderate of the ones left behind? Hell, at least we can make a rational, conscientious choice to do what we do. Those suffering from depression...notsomuch.

If such judgement is to be passed, compassion-oriented people try to do it at an appropriate time. Not at the eulogy.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 08:35pm PT
What is your point Apogee ?
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 08:37pm PT
His point is quite plain. A couple of them actually.

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Aug 11, 2014 - 08:39pm PT
Ap....this thread is NO eulogy. It has the word SUICIDE in the title...ok?

Aug 11, 2014 - 08:40pm PT
Is that what I did, Mr. Brennan?

There are two of you with your way of thinking on this thread so far.
I guess we are f*#ked up?

dirtbag should not have put suicide in the title. Hasn't been confirmed that I know of.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 08:41pm PT
No, it is quite not plain, Fructose .

There is a huge difference between subjecting yourself to death by taking a risk for adventure and making death the object of desire.


Aug 11, 2014 - 08:41pm PT
It is not our place to judge others.

Gym climber
Great White North
Aug 11, 2014 - 08:42pm PT
^^^ pretty much
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 08:43pm PT
Exactly, jstan.

Boulder climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 08:45pm PT
Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Aug 11, 2014 - 08:49pm PT
Just gutted by this. Such an interesting and smart guy. Just ugh.

edit: Mort Sahl is still alive; I had no idea.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Aug 11, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
Credit: T Hocking
I'm outta here
I'm outta here
Credit: Looney Tunes

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Aug 11, 2014 - 08:58pm PT
As a film nut who sees a couple hundred films a year, I think Robin was truly one of my favorites. Yeah, he made me laugh, but some of the most poignant moments in cinema history to me were some of his powerful moments in Goodwill Hunting and Dead Poets Society.

Here's two of the best. Both moved me dramatically and I think of them from time to time.

I hope that in some way the frailty of man and the mysterious sovereignty of God are crystallized in the passing of such a great performer. We'll miss you man.


Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Aug 11, 2014 - 09:01pm PT
Robin on Jonathan Winters:
First he was my idol, then he was my mentor and amazing friend. I'll miss him huge. He was my Comedy Buddha. Long live the Buddha.
RIP, they both made us laugh so much.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 09:01pm PT
Hey Overwatch, or whatever your real name is, I'm like a lot of humans (like you) who've faced up to the reality of other humans that present their perception of reality.

Usually it's a lot of impotent posturing but once or twice in a while, down the trail lopes an individual who has a strict code and there's a lot of deep water under a calm surface.

Wouldn't it be nice if our brains were something that resonated peace to each other instead of the usual competitive hierarchy.


Aug 11, 2014 - 09:18pm PT
You know I think if people dont get it they havent looked deeper into themselves. We all see the charade, the struggle, the phony bs that makes up so much of our lives.

Think of the pressure he put himself through - with both good and horrible results. How brave of him. He lit us all up. How long can you reach that deep and be original, be yourself?

Yes sad. But also, so free. Away from those ghosts. Those, ours and his vampires. What a character!!

We need crazy. He gave us that. Insights and laughter. What gifts.

Bon Voyage Robin!!!

Trad climber
OAK (nee NH)
Aug 11, 2014 - 09:27pm PT
I'm really hoping Cragman is personable, kind, compassionate, gracious, and genteel in person. Because online Cragman can be a dick.

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
Aug 11, 2014 - 09:32pm PT
Robin was a big cycling enthusiast. For several years we did a two-man standup gig at the team presentation/pre-race Gala of the Amgen Tour of California. One year we had to hit the head before going on stage. At that time Senator Larry Craig had just been busted in an airport restroom for 'toe-tapping' in an attempt to hook-up.

So, here Robin and I are in adjoining stalls relieving ourselves when I ask him, 'don't you go all Larry Craig on me!" He proceeded to do a 2-minute bit on 'toe tapping' right there in the restroom. That was so Robin!

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Aug 11, 2014 - 09:40pm PT
slobmonster....we are all products of our own experiences.

I've been around my share of suicide cases over the years. In not one of those cases did the deceased subject have to die again.

In EVERY one of those cases, the loved ones of the lost, die over and over again....for the rest of their lives.

Like everyone else here, I mourn the loss of such an incredible talent. I personally do not believe Robin Williams had any peers....he was head and shoulders above the rest, in my opinion.

We all mourn in different ways. You and others may see my comments here as harsh. I respect your opinion. But as I said, we are all products of our experiences, and what we've seen.

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Aug 11, 2014 - 09:45pm PT
Thx Bruce. Good laughs on that.

Really enjoyed his stuff...

Death to Smoochy
Bicentennial Man
Good Morning Vietnam
Patch Adams
What Dreams May Come
Good Will Hunting
Dead Poets Society

red white and blue, red white and blue, OH SH#T ITS THE COPS eat everything in the ashtray, eat everything in the ashtray...

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