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jstan
climber
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Aug 11, 2014 - 08:41pm PT
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It is not our place to judge others.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Aug 11, 2014 - 08:42pm PT
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^^^ pretty much
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Aug 11, 2014 - 08:49pm PT
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Just gutted by this. Such an interesting and smart guy. Just ugh.
edit: Mort Sahl is still alive; I had no idea.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Aug 11, 2014 - 08:58pm PT
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As a film nut who sees a couple hundred films a year, I think Robin was truly one of my favorites. Yeah, he made me laugh, but some of the most poignant moments in cinema history to me were some of his powerful moments in Goodwill Hunting and Dead Poets Society.
Here's two of the best. Both moved me dramatically and I think of them from time to time.
I hope that in some way the frailty of man and the mysterious sovereignty of God are crystallized in the passing of such a great performer. We'll miss you man.
Scott
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JOEY.F
Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
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Aug 11, 2014 - 09:01pm PT
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Robin on Jonathan Winters:
“First he was my idol, then he was my mentor and amazing friend. I'll miss him huge. He was my Comedy Buddha. Long live the Buddha.” RIP, they both made us laugh so much.
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Fuzzywuzzy
climber
suspendedhappynation
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Aug 11, 2014 - 09:18pm PT
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You know I think if people don’t get it they haven’t looked deeper into themselves. We all see the charade, the struggle, the phony bs that makes up so much of our lives.
Think of the pressure he put himself through - with both good and horrible results. How brave of him. He lit us all up. How long can you reach that deep and be original, be yourself?
Yes sad. But also, so free. Away from those ghosts. Those, ours and his vampires. What a character!!
We need crazy. He gave us that. Insights and laughter. What gifts.
Bon Voyage Robin!!!
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slobmonster
Trad climber
OAK (nee NH)
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Aug 11, 2014 - 09:27pm PT
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I'm really hoping Cragman is personable, kind, compassionate, gracious, and genteel in person. Because online Cragman can be a dick.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Aug 11, 2014 - 09:32pm PT
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Robin was a big cycling enthusiast. For several years we did a two-man standup gig at the team presentation/pre-race Gala of the Amgen Tour of California. One year we had to hit the head before going on stage. At that time Senator Larry Craig had just been busted in an airport restroom for 'toe-tapping' in an attempt to hook-up.
So, here Robin and I are in adjoining stalls relieving ourselves when I ask him, 'don't you go all Larry Craig on me!" He proceeded to do a 2-minute bit on 'toe tapping' right there in the restroom. That was so Robin!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Aug 11, 2014 - 09:45pm PT
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Thx Bruce. Good laughs on that.
Really enjoyed his stuff...
Death to Smoochy
Bicentennial Man
Good Morning Vietnam
Patch Adams
What Dreams May Come
Good Will Hunting
Birdcage
Aladdin
Hook
Dead Poets Society
red white and blue, red white and blue, OH SH#T ITS THE COPS eat everything in the ashtray, eat everything in the ashtray...
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Fogarty
climber
BITD
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Aug 11, 2014 - 09:45pm PT
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Here are 10 of Williams' most memorable roles and some of the most powerful quotes from each film:
As English teacher John Keating in "Dead Poets Society," 1989:
"...if you listen real close, you can hear them whisper their legacy to you. Go on, lean in. Listen, you hear it? - - Carpe - - hear it? - - Carpe, carpe diem, seize the day boys, make your lives extraordinary."
As Daniel Hillard/Mrs. Doubtfire in "Mrs. Doubtfire," 1993:
"Well, He broke the mold when He made me. He made me very special."
As psychologist Sean Maguire in "Good Will Hunting," 1997:
"Real loss is only possible when you love something more than you love yourself."
As car crash victim Chris Nielsen in "What Dreams May Come," 1998:
"A whole human life is just a heartbeat here in Heaven. Then we'll all be together forever."
As Dr. Malcolm Sayer in "Awakenings," 1990:
"Only occasionally, without a sound, do the covers of the eyes slide open-. An image rushes in, goes through the tensed silence of the frame- only to vanish, forever, in the heart."
As doctor Hunter "Patch" Adams in "Patch Adams," 1998:
"What's wrong with death sir? What are we so mortally afraid of? Why can't we treat death with a certain amount of humanity and dignity, and decency, and God forbid, maybe even humor. Death is not the enemy gentlemen. If we're going to fight a disease, let's fight one of the most terrible diseases of all, indifference."
As Armed Forces Radio DJ Adrian Cronauer in "Good Morning Vietnam," 1987:
"Good morning, Vietnam! Hey, this is not a test. This is rock and roll. Time to rock it from the delta to the DMZ!"
As Peter Banning/Peter Pan in "Hook," 1991:
"Jack, Maggie, all you have to do is think one happy thought, and you'll fly like me."
As English teacher John Keating in "Dead Poets Society," 1989:
"We don't read and write poetry because it's cute. We read and write poetry because we are members of the human race. And the human race is filled with passion. And medicine, law, business, engineering, these are noble pursuits and necessary to sustain life. But poetry, beauty, romance, love, these are what we stay alive for. To quote from Whitman, 'O me! O life!... of the questions of these recurring; of the endless trains of the faithless... of cities filled with the foolish; what good amid these, O me, O life?' Answer. That you are here - that life exists, and identity; that the powerful play goes on and you may contribute a verse. That the powerful play goes on and you may contribute a verse. What will your verse be?"
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Aug 11, 2014 - 09:50pm PT
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Slobmonster, Cragman is actually a very nice and gracious guy, works really hard on a variety of charity organizations and has been rescuing people for decades, and has a big family up in June Lake. Very generous guy.
Scrubbing Bubbles (love that handle!), leave it to Fuzzywuzzy to know how, just now. Uber-skier and climber and famous guide now of 44 years, amazingly well-read and fit as hell. He has been through some similar experiences just recently and his bravery and acceptance is really stunning.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Aug 11, 2014 - 10:08pm PT
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He visited my 17 year old cousin with Leukemia in between treatments at a childrens hospital, something I never got around to doing. To say he was a good guy is to be stuck with simple words.
It's a bit different for me, maybe... I am not anywhere near his peer, but I grew up on his movies. He was a big part of my childhood, the magical nostalgia that creeps up when I think life is getting a bit too serious. I don't know what parts of him he wanted to keep for himself but the parts of him he shared with the world I loved very deeply.
I've known and met people that can do amazing things but can't help themselves. Not won't help themselves... but can't. To say we understand or have an idea what goes on in someones head is to admit that our own intricate mind is just as easily dissected. I think that is not the case.
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slobmonster
Trad climber
OAK (nee NH)
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Aug 11, 2014 - 10:15pm PT
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this thread is NO eulogy. It has the word SUICIDE in the title...ok?
It is absolutely a eulogy. Cragman's contention is that the manner of the man's death annulled his very life, and I find this to be offensive.
Depression is real; please be nice to one another.
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stinkeye
climber
NORCAL
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Aug 11, 2014 - 10:26pm PT
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"as it stands you're either an arrogant and hypocritical fucKtard spouting judgemental bullshit literally the same day as a fellow human took action to end their own existence "
You had him at hello.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Aug 11, 2014 - 10:38pm PT
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OK. One more Robin Williams story. We were at the 2004 Tour de France at the final stage in Paris. Robin was a big Lance Fan. He once told me that he was the one who introduced Sheryl Crow to Lance.
Anyway, there he was in front of all the TV cameras being asked all sorts of boring questions. I yelled out, "Robin what about all the riders in the sexy, tight pants?' and off he goes into a shtick about racers and their bulges, etc. Of course, that's exactly what the TV people wanted. They just didn't know how to get him started. Yeah, again, he will be missed.
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KabalaArch
Trad climber
Starlite, California
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Aug 11, 2014 - 10:52pm PT
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The fact is, if everyone in this country who battles the same things he fought committed suicide, we've have millions dead every year
We do.
According to the World Health Organization, the current annual tally is 3,000,000. This represents something like 25% of total attempts - evidently we have better odds hitting the State Lottery jackpot.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Aug 11, 2014 - 10:54pm PT
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I'm very sad to hear the news just now. He was a unique talent and will be missed. I saw him frequently at the Marin Faire BITD with his family.
My personal funny story about him. Head down, I'm dashing through the crowds with a large soda trying to get back to work. BLAM- I run right into someone... upending the entire drink on the front of the man. I'm apologizing. "I'm sorry, I'm sorry" while patting him with the hem of my dress to dry him off... then I look up... right into Robin Williams face (I hadn't noticed it was him since I was so busy swabbing his chest.)
ME: "OH MY GOD! I'm SO sorry." (Noticeably more emphatic)
HIM: (Without missing a beat) " So... you weren't really sorry before?" *(winks)* smiles at me and tells me it's fine.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 11, 2014 - 10:55pm PT
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I guess you just don't get it. Why you are one of the direct sources of suicides.
People who have profound, deep depressions take note of what they've read. How their thoughts of suicide mean that they are "weak", that they are "a burden on others", that they are "cowards".
What do you think people who begin to believe those things about themselves do? They HIDE their feelings, so as not to be exposed for the inadequate people that YOU"VE told them that they are. So they stew with their illness, and do not seek help, or lie about how the help that they are getting is working....so they are not to be even MORE inadequate. And then something happens, with them in this very dark place, that serves to push them over the edge.
So, Cragman, stop creating grief for those who suffer. Stop making it very difficult for them to get help. Stop hurting people.
Slobmonster, Cragman is actually a very nice and gracious guy, works really hard on a variety of charity organizations and has been rescuing people for decades, and has a big family up in June Lake. Very generous guy.
And Capone opened soup kitchens.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Aug 11, 2014 - 10:57pm PT
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There can be courage and honor in choosing how and when you will die. His choice to freely decide doesn't diminish his inspiration to me. Ordinary people can make their trite, ordinary platitudes, but Robin was extraordinary. I get the joke.
( I've seen a man look me in the eye with disdain because he thought that I was forcing him to keep living and keep suffering. He then ripped the cannula out of his nose in a humbling act of courage. There was a great fire in his exhausted countenance. I was awed.)
Living is easy. Living and dying on your own terms is not so easy.
"At the bottom of this Big Big Cliff, you will find a Big Big Man.
Signed, Big John."
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