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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 6, 2014 - 11:13am PT
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Deep Bush Soloing or DBS is the practice of soloing above a thick bed of bushes in the hopes that the bushes will soften a possible fall.
Tree Branch Soloing (TBS), on the other hand, is purported to be a more narrow definition. Purists of DBS will say these are distinct sports. 'TBS is to DBS, is as aid climbing is to bouldering.'
Some assert that DBS started in Northern California with its deep and lush foliage. Others say the origin story of DBS came from the underthicket approaches endemic to the Escondido regions.
Legendary tree grabs like the Yabo hug on Castle Rock Proper come to mind.
What is your earliest recollection of a bush save from a route or problem?
What classic saves can you recall or heard about?
Water is for wooses!
PsicoBush Comp 2015!!! Sponsors are scoping locations as we speak. The Mallorca of Bush Soloing, ShutEye, is a front runner.
DBS is being looked at by many as a way to end the 'pad lightly' controversy by removing the pad and getting back to pure bouldering and soloing roots. <-- routes, get it!
It's an exciting time for DBS.
I can recall a bouldering fall that landed in the deep pine needle landings of the Eastern Side, but a true living bush save, has eluded me.
Long Live the "Scratchy Catch"!!!
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
Nevada City
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what about SLS( snow landing soloing) ?
or DSS perhaps? (deep snow soloing)
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 6, 2014 - 11:17am PT
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whoa whoa whoa! Lets just stay on topic here!
Next thing you know we'll be talking about Drunk Geranium Aid climbing.
:)
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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When I was elementary school age I would jump from my roof(+-18ft) into the bushes to test the theory.
It worked.
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
Nevada City
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sorry, ADD acting up again, what can I say. well, the only time trees ever caught me was when I was climbing up them in the first place. My understanding of these landings is they are more psychological protection than anything, but perhaps that's just me, based on the supposed legendary exploits of others ...
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snakefoot
climber
Nor Cal
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for some reason, this makes me think of the route crawdaddies in flight (or something like that) at the leap...
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 6, 2014 - 11:39am PT
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applying the theory to the practice in DBS is a long apprenticeship. Most get out of the game early on.
I mean, do you really know what is below that layer of manzanita?
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Captain...or Skully
climber
in the oil patch...Fricken Bakken, that's where
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If you make it through that layer of manzanita, you've got bigger problems to worry about.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 6, 2014 - 12:34pm PT
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silver missile yuccas? oh my
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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It has crossed my mind although not the trees. I'm more of a deep snow soloist myself.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 6, 2014 - 01:56pm PT
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Deep Snow is like Deep Bush Soloing, since there are crevasse like features under the first layer.
Probably the worst DBS plant to land in would be Chinquapin.
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pb
Sport climber
Sonora Ca
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I watched my buddy fall backwards into whitethorn. It worked to break his fall, but I didn't try it. The Iceberg was guarded by so much Green-leaf manzanita we felt compelled to retreat through the summit.
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Snow is easy, DBS is for those willing to push the bounds of what's possible. Only the most epicest among us will DBS.
In fact, I'm going to go find a sweet hedge to fall into right now.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Every year the number of us that climbed the rotten log on Royal Arches gets fewer. I wonder which we'll run out of first, log climbers or Korean War veterans.
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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I would think poison oak would be the worst.
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Poison oak is a vine, not a bush. Provides virtually no protection from a fall.
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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I should have been more specific, any brush surrounded by the dread po.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, mungeclimber... say, now this was very interesting and different, :)
lots of neat shares here, too, and such...
yep--i'd have to agree, karodrinker... poison oak = not good,
as, my mom sure told me that, ;)
edit:
nice edit, michelle, :)
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Climberdude
Trad climber
Fresno, CA
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I do not know whether Pinnacles remote climbs or Shuteye climbs take the gold medal for deep bush soloing, but at both locations I have been forced to jump from rocks into unknown bushes in my approach. You just hope that all branches are pointing downward rather than up. If you are in Shuteye on an "approach" and cannot find cairns or lose track of them, then you known you are in for at least one deep bush solo.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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into unknown bushes in my approach
Munge has brought the conversation to this.
Flattened chaparral, now I know who, some Climberdude.
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msiddens
Trad climber
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Yeah munge I admit, I read this and straight to the crotch I went, my mind that is. I mean come on, deep bush soloing, no pro and all? I'll stop now....
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 6, 2014 - 10:12pm PT
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This is legit!
Cruxing over bushes!
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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I thought deep bush soloing might be something like what Em is doing here:
Or le_bruce is doing here:
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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The Manzanita catch is definitely NOT for pussies.^^^
The rhododendron thickets of the south come to mind for a softer landing. Chigger bites are a bonus!
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Good suggestion justthemaid, worth a trip just for a soft bush! I've recently planted some nice boxwood hedges under some of the high balls and sport routes at castle rock, gonna be so epic when they grow out a bit! DBS for life!
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Not in vogue.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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There are valleys in BC's Coast Range where you can spend hours sweating through slide alder without having your feet ever touch the ground.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Um... So if the highball in question lacks bush, is it okay to cut and stack bush instead of a pad pile?
Does anyone have a list of Yose highballs with trees as spotters??
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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If cutting and stacking, I prefer to find old growth junipers like Joe Kinder, they make a nice thick landing zone until they die off and get too scratchy.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 7, 2014 - 10:55pm PT
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DBS should be distinguished from the dreaded BM.
Bush mountaineering is dangerous business. Some think it's the shit!
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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BITCH with the win! Ouch.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 2, 2015 - 06:49pm PT
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Scratch Catch bump
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Deep snow soloing works pretty well.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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I soloed a route in Josh I had no business doing rope-less. I deluded myself into thinking that if I biffed it I could land in this tree. About halfway up I looked down at said tree and realized the insanity of this proposition.
Water is probably okay to a certain height, I've jumped from a bridge into a river from about 60 ft. Not much but you'd better not flop it. Deep snow? Hmm. Trees, brush? Forget about it.
Did a tree slow Lynn Hill's fall at Boux?
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Deep Bush Soloing Today one of my bosses was referring to lesbians as a rug munchers.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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In the mid '70s we bouldered a roof route with a twenty-three foot fall at the crux. My partner and I each took 25 rides into a 12' high linear pile of leaves which ran under the length of the roof. Finally stuck it on the 26th go and the route is called 'Leaves of the Failing Faith'. But then I suppose that would be 'Deep Leaf Soloing' (DLS).
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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refer to the descent off the Cupcake boulder at Vedawoo
not sure what the option is once the tree goes...
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 2, 2015 - 09:09pm PT
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healyje, this is the first reported instance of Deep Leaf Soloing!
solid work!
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MisterE
Gym climber
Being In Sierra Happy Of Place
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Great thread, Munge - missed this the first time.
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tripmind
Boulder climber
San Diego
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Oh yes the "Fall once, climb once" school of thought. Love it
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Munge, your photos are great,
Plants that cause a skin eruption are the biggest pain
Those waterfalls
inspiring!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 2, 2015 - 10:18pm PT
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thx Gnome
couldn't agree more on the evil plant rating adjustment.
DBS++
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Found it:
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OR
Trad climber
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Hhahaha I love Nuts Manzanita pics. I remember the Manzanita swim technique. Too thick to walk through so you swim on top with feet never touching the ground. Brutal
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Late one night (well 2AM might be early one morning) I had a nice Manzanita catch on Chimps in Negligee at CRSP.
A great TBS route is Leaning Tower Traverse.
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