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FRUMY

Trad climber
Bishop,CA
Oct 2, 2014 - 08:30pm PT
This is not the first time Ebola has been in the U.S.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Oct 2, 2014 - 09:26pm PT
If it's Ebola or Influenza or something else.... let's say Virus 6456x. Nature will attempt to wipe out a few billion humans no matter what. Always has, always will. It's just a question of when and who.

It's nothing you can't prepare for. IMO if you don't have at the ability to hunker down for at least 6 months with no outside contact... well then, that's something to work towards.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 2, 2014 - 10:16pm PT
Hunkering down for 6 month with no outside help... not a problem...

Avoiding outsiders.. Much more difficult.
David Knopp

Trad climber
CA
Oct 7, 2014 - 07:29am PT
hey New World Order-there's an article and editorial in today's New York Times about this-just so you, the main stream media is reporting on this. And President Obama called this the biggest threat to our National security.
crankster

Trad climber
Oct 7, 2014 - 07:38am PT
Fox is the mainstream media. The hysterical call to end all flights is talked about by the extremists there.

From the Times. Makes perfect sense. See, real news is out there if you look.
Top American health officials are strongly opposed, with good reason, to take the more extreme step of banning all travel to the United States from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone, where the epidemic is concentrated, as several prominent Republicans, like Louisiana’s governor, Bobby Jindal, have recommended. That could actually hamper the battle to contain the epidemic abroad — the first line of defense against the disease — in part by leaving Americans who are risking their lives to contain the epidemic stranded in Africa with no way to return home. If volunteer workers can’t return home, they may elect not to go in the first place, thus weakening the fight against the epidemic.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 7, 2014 - 08:07am PT
Now 'the experts' are saying Ebola may spread more easily than assumed.
Why do people assume things about sh#t they know diddly about?

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=1
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 7, 2014 - 11:09am PT
Interview with the researcher that discovered it

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/04/ebola-zaire-peter-piot-outbreak
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Oct 7, 2014 - 11:33am PT
That was a great article TGT.

Of note, this fellow is currently the Director of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Diseases, the most distinguished scholarly institution in infectious diseases in the world.

As a young researcher, who went to help in the first known outbreak in Zaire, where he named the virus, he thought he had actually contracted the disease. What did he do?

And it really would have been stupid to spend two weeks in the horrible isolation tent that had been set up for us scientists for the worst case. So I just stayed alone in my room and waited.

I don't mention that as a condemnation of the man, but rather the type of thinking that goes on in relative youth. A very similar thing happened in the US in '76, when a specimen was sent in for evaluation by the best experts in the country. They treated it in the most casual way imaginable, and actually SNIFFED it. When they realized it was Ebola, and that the protocols called for them to go into isolation, they simply didn't tell anyone, and went home, then waited to see what happened.

I think that the "powers on high" don't quite get that the young people of today....doctors, nurses, patients, may do equally unpredictable things.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 7, 2014 - 11:56am PT
That and the boss fumbling the vial and dropping it on his co workers foot!

Interesting tale of how it got its name too.
dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Oct 8, 2014 - 12:28pm PT
I really do hope this is fear mongering but figured I would post so others have the info if it is for real.

By: Mike Adams (http://www.naturalnews.com/047089_Ebola_pandemic_government_lies_disinformation.html); At every level of media and government, protecting the financial interests of drug companies appears to be far more important than protecting public health. So people aren't told the truth about how Ebola spreads and how they can increase their ability to survive a global pandemic.

Here are five of the biggest lies being spread about Ebola right now. Once you've reviewed the lies, learn the truth at www.BioDefense.com

Lie #1) Ebola won't ever come to the United States

This lie was shattered just this week when the CDC confirmed Ebola in a hospital patient in Dallas, Texas.

Not only has Ebola already spread to America, but a top scientist who used to work for the FDA now says this is only the beginning and that Ebola will spread in America. [1]

As printed in The Extinction Protocol:

"...it appears several people were exposed before the individual was placed in isolation, and it is quite possible that one or more of his contacts will be infected," he added. What's more, he conceded that it was "only a matter of time" that the swift-killing African virus arrived in the U.S.

Lie #2) Ebola is only spread via direct contact with body fluids

This outrageous medical lie may soon cost the lives of millions of innocent people. In truth, Ebola can spread through the air over short distances via aerosols - airborne particles.

Ebola can also spread via contaminated surfaces. When an infected patient makes contact with a surface such as a doorknob or ATM keypad, they may leave behind the Ebola virus which survives for many minutes or hours in the open, depending on environmental conditions (temperature, humidity, etc.) Another person who touches the same surface may then become instantly infected by simply touching their own eyes, nose or mouth.

The ability of Ebola to spread via contaminated surfaces is why victims in Africa have become infected by riding in taxi cabs. This also means any form of public transportation -- airplanes, ambulances, subways -- may harbor the virus and accelerate the spread of an outbreak.

Like all viruses, Ebola is destroyed by sunlight. But it can remain viable for a surprisingly long time in environments where sunlight never reaches -- such as underground subways, which are the perfect breeding grounds for viral transmission.

Lie #3) Don't worry: Health authorities have everything under control

The overarching lie about Ebola that's being repeated by the U.S. government is "Don't worry, we have it under control!"

Of course, the fact that an infected Ebola victim just flew right into the country with Ebola, then walked around the city of Dallas for 10 days while carrying Ebola, utterly belies the false promises of health authorities who claim to have things under control.

In truth, Ebola is completely out of control which is precisely why its sudden appearance in a Dallas hospital surprised nearly everyone. The sobering fact of the matter is that despite all the money being spent on "homeland security," DHS has no way to stop Ebola from walking right into the USA, including on foot from our wide open southern border.

If the U.S. government has everything under control, then why did the government just purchase 160,000 Ebola hazmat suits? Why did Obama just recently sign an executive order authorizing the forced government quarantine of anyone showing symptoms of infectious disease?

While the public can be easily lied to and told everything is under control, behind closed doors at the highest levels of government, everybody knows this pandemic could rapidly become a global killer that no one can stop.

Lie #4) The only defense against Ebola is a vaccine or a pharmaceutical drug

This lie may get millions of people killed if the Ebola outbreak gets worse. In a desperate bid to make sure Ebola generates billions of dollars in profits for vaccine makers and pharmaceutical companies, the CDC, FDA and even the FTC routinely censor truthful information about natural treatments that might hold promise (such as colloidal silver).

Companies that offer extremely beneficial essential oils and colloidal silver products have already been threatened with criminal arrest and prosecution by the FDA. The mainstream media remains complicit in the systematic oppression of natural cures, printing the FDA's propaganda while completely avoiding any balanced reporting that might highlight the extraordinary anti-viral capabilities of many medicinal herbs as I've described in Episode Six of Pandemic Preparedness.

If we really want to stop the spread of this viral pandemic right now, both government and the media should be urging citizens to boost their immune defenses by consuming more nutritious foods, herbal spices, superfoods and anti-viral plants (which include peppermint, basil, rosemary, cinnamon and oregano, just to name a few).

Everyone should be immediately urged to make sure they have sufficient vitamin D circulating in their blood, and those who have low vitamin D -- which includes just about everyone in America today -- should be urged to take vitamin D supplements.

But instead of urging the public to enhance their immune function and boost their natural defenses against Ebola, everyone is ridiculously told to "wash your hands" and wait around for a drug company to introduce an Ebola vaccine.

Lie #5) Ebola came out of nowhere and was a random fluke of nature

The modern-day version of Ebola that's so aggressively circulating today may actually be a bioengineered virus, according to one scientist who wrote a front-page story in Liberia's largest newspaper.

"Ebola is a genetically modified organism (GMO)," declared Dr. Cyril Broderick, Professor of Plant Pathology, in a front-page story published in the Liberian Observer. [2]

He goes on to explain:

[Horowitz] confirmed the existence of an American Military-Medical-Industry that conducts biological weapons tests under the guise of administering vaccinations to control diseases and improve the health of "black Africans overseas."

Further supporting this genetic engineering research claim, the U.S. government patented Ebola in 2010 and now claims intellectual property ownership over all Ebola variants. That patent number is CA2741523A1, viewable at this link.

Read more about the patenting of Ebola and control over its research in this Natural News article.

This means the U.S. government claims all control over Ebola research, too, because any research project involving replication of the virus would violate the government's patent.

In fact, the vastly improved transmission ability of the Ebola strain currently circulating (compared to previous outbreaks in years past) has many people convinced this strain is a "weaponized" variant which either broke through containment protocols at government labs or was intentionally deployed as a population control weapon.

Several U.S. scientists have openly called for global depopulation using genetically engineered bioweapons such as Ebola. Dr. Eric Pianka of the University of Texas at Austin reportedly advocated the use of Ebola to wipe out 90% of the human population, according to Life Site News. [3]

It appears he may soon get his wish. If the current Ebola explosion continues, the global population may be in serious jeopardy and many millions could die.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 8, 2014 - 12:37pm PT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Fear
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Oct 8, 2014 - 12:40pm PT

Excalibur, the dog of Spanish nurse Teresa Romero Ramos who contracted Ebola, lies on the floor in this undated handout photo provided on October 8, 2014. Madrid regional authorities said they have euthanized the nurse's dog. Ebola can multiply inside dogs but does not make them sick
and eventually dies out inside canines. But during those weeks the dogs bodily fluids contain
live ebola virus and could infect humans coming into contact with them.

Nurse Ramos thinks she may have touched her face with contaminated gloves
while caring for a priest suffering from ebola at a Madrid hospital.




rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 12, 2014 - 08:54am PT
A Second case of ebola, and first case contracted inside U.S. , preliminarily identified in Dallas. Thus nurse was not among the 48 people identified as the most at risk contacts. One wonders why, since she worked with the original patient when his viral load was at a maximum. What will be the extent of the outbreak inside the U.S. before real common sense proticols, including travel restrictions, are put in place?
crankster

Trad climber
Oct 12, 2014 - 09:15am PT
Rightwingers like tioga...what a dreary lot. Glued to the Fox 24/7, repeating all the nonsense they hear. Ebola is Obama's fault! Clueless.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Oct 12, 2014 - 11:38am PT
A nurse that was involved with the Dallas ebola fatality has tested posititve for the virus...
crankster

Trad climber
Oct 12, 2014 - 12:00pm PT
Now that's funny, locker.
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Oct 12, 2014 - 12:28pm PT
Several U.S. scientists have openly called for global depopulation using genetically engineered bioweapons such as Ebola.

It's the only hope for this planet and everything else living here.

Kill off the people.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 12, 2014 - 02:57pm PT
You go first.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Oct 12, 2014 - 04:42pm PT
Part of the problem is the term "airborne" that's thrown around. Any virus present in saliva, blood, mucus, etc.. is potentially "airborne". It's more a matter of degrees. More than likely Ebola is airborne in the immediate vicinity of a victim who is alive, sick, and shedding viri attached to particulates spread through sneezing and coughing. How far away? Anyone's best guess. But it's got to be far lower than many other much more contagious viruses such as influenza. We already have proven that in Lagos.

If there aren't a million dead in Lagos already (and there are not), then this isn't the end of the world.

On the other hand, our own CDC has been curiously absent from dealing with the first diagnosed patient in Dallas. After watching the standard ServPro crew power washing the sidewalk where the patient had thrown up (and extremely hot with active viri) I had to wonder what the intent there was. Ignorance only goes so far.

So wash yer hands, don't touch your face, stay off of planes for a bit if possible. Find a bit of sunny rock and chill out. Oh the end is coming but it ain't from this....
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Oct 12, 2014 - 10:07pm PT
Several U.S. scientists have openly called for global depopulation using genetically engineered bioweapons such as Ebola. Dr. Eric Pianka of the University of Texas at Austin reportedly advocated the use of Ebola to wipe out 90% of the human population, according to Life Site News. [3]

These are flat out distortions and lies deliberately manufactured by taking Pianka's statements completely out of context for other agendas. Pianka was simply speaking about nature's own mechanisms for restoring balance to overpopulation by any species. Specifically he was speaking to the notion that it's foolish to believe you can destroy habitat on grand scales driving species extinct at unprecedented rates and expect those species' pathogen load will simply lay down and die with them or there won't be other microbiological compensating events.

We are among the most abundant mammalian feedstocks on the planet and we deliver ourselves. From a microbiological perspective it is hubris and delusion of the first order to think there isn't a correction in the works at some point.

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