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HighDesertDJ
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Jul 31, 2014 - 07:33pm PT
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Chaz posted This isn't the first time this crew robbed that old guy. They had been there twice before.
There is no reality in which it is then justified to pursue them and then kill them.
Chaz continued We get tax increases here. No cuts.
Obama signed the broadest tax cut in history. Should have helped offset some of your California problems. You're welcome.
Chaz said The dead bitch's Mom was arrested for murder, too. It seems she was working as a "lookout" for her bitch daughter and her bitch daughter's scumbag boyfriend. She did a piss-poor job of looking out apparently, and now her bitch daughter is dead, and she'll have a new home in The Joint. I hope she got a good look at the shooting, so her bitch daughter's begging for her life, gurgling, gagging and death throes will give something to remember forever about her last days of freedom.
You seem pretty mad, Chaz. When he gets out of prison you two can join a Men's Rights group together and talk about all the "bitches" you want to kill.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 31, 2014 - 07:35pm PT
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Unless they broke your collarbone and pissed you off...
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Jul 31, 2014 - 07:41pm PT
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You're right. Having broken someone's collarbone sometime in the past is grounds for justified homicide in 37 states.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 31, 2014 - 07:50pm PT
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HHDJ writes:
"Obama signed the biggest tax cut in history. Should have helped offset some of your California problems. You're welcome."
The Federal Government pays for the Long Beach Police Department? Are you certain of that?
State and local taxes in California haven't been cut. Just the opposite. That's what pays for local cops. State and local taxes.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 31, 2014 - 07:52pm PT
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HDDJ.. I didn't say i was right but this Obama Care has the country on edge...
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 31, 2014 - 08:01pm PT
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From the link HHDJ posted:
"Federal funding will support LBPD’s cold case unit through 2011"
The shooting happened in 2014. The 2011 money was all gone by 2012.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 31, 2014 - 08:02pm PT
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Tell me about "tax cuts" in California, because I must have missed those.
We get tax increases here. No cuts.
Haven't been paying attention, eh, Chaz?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 31, 2014 - 08:08pm PT
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Can you tell me what taxes were lowered in California, Gary?
Contrary to what Mr Brennan wrote, California voted to raise taxes the last time the choice was on the ballot.
Almost enough to get me to side with Mr Milktoast, and shitcan the initiative process, if it's going to be used to raise taxes.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 31, 2014 - 08:09pm PT
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Bubbles...Iowa by the sea...that's pretty fking hilarious...
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 31, 2014 - 08:16pm PT
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He may get charged for assault with a dead weapon...? Stop stuttering jebus...
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Jul 31, 2014 - 08:20pm PT
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if i;m on the jury,
he's goin home to his tv dinner
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 31, 2014 - 08:43pm PT
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Chaz,
The Governator lowered the car tax. And of course there was Prop 13 which has more or less flushed us down the toilet.
Everybody wants government services. For free.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jul 31, 2014 - 08:48pm PT
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This is not like forgetting to turn off the stove, water the plants or check the mail.
At 80 years old, as far as discretion and problem solving goes, sure it could be. (And the guy was assaulted. Far far from "cold" blood.)
At 80, but for the "grace of God," I might've done the same thing.
Just see how many opinions would change in regard to "justice" were it a scraggly male instead of a (potentially pregnant) good-looking female.
We are biased to the marrow. (And there's no escape.)
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Jul 31, 2014 - 10:12pm PT
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Wow, the rednecks sure come out in these forums. Not sure why people who own guns think they aren't responsible for using them.
I think a charge could be made for murder 1. The assailants were fleeing, no longer in his home. He was armed; they were not. He made a decision to follow them, corner them, talk with them, and then shoot one. Any credible self defense claim stopped once they left the home.
If I were the DA, not sure if I'd charge him with murder 1, but it wouldn't be unreasonable under the circumstances. Yet another example of guns getting the owner in trouble. Social Darwinism at work.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Jul 31, 2014 - 10:14pm PT
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a (potentially pregnant) good-looking female.
That is the most sexist line I've heard in a while.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Jul 31, 2014 - 10:14pm PT
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Chaz posted The shooting happened in 2014. The 2011 money was all gone by 2012.
And? I've pointed out how Obama has both funded your police department and given you a tax break. All you can do is look for reasons to complain about it. Go back to Whingertina. No Real American complains this much about how nobody helps them.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Jul 31, 2014 - 10:23pm PT
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Any credible self defense claim stopped once they left the home
In war an enemy retreats in the afternoon and comes back in the morning to kill you. Give the old guy a medal.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 31, 2014 - 10:35pm PT
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HDDJ writes:
"And? I've pointed out how Obama has both funded your police department and given you a tax break."
Where was my Obama tax break?
California enjoys the Nation's highest income tax, gas tax, and sales tax.
Lack of tax money is not the problem in California.
"Pay up, or die. No cost too high" seems to be your position. A position you share with such esteemed organizations as the Mexican Mafia.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 31, 2014 - 10:53pm PT
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chaz, you haven't heard of Prop 13?
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