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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 10, 2014 - 11:58am PT
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You are doing a multi pitch rock route. Not a snow slog, not a big wall aid climb, just a fun, classic free route that you plan on doing in a day or less. What do you bring besides climbing gear? I see people with all sorts of goofy sh#t hanging off themselves when multipitching & am always interested what they have or why they need it or if they need it at all? Maybe there is stuff I should be bringing which could be useful but I've no idea of?
For around here I usually put a bar of some sort in my pocket, avoid a backpack at all costs, and if there is a walk off I'll make sure to clip my daescents on my haul loop. If it's more than 3 or 4 pitches I'll bring 0.5L water. Summit libations are also considered depending on the situation.
Here's Brownies essentials:
Since we are just sitting around talking about other n00b sh#t like cordalettes, soccer, & guns I figured maybe knowledge could be gleaned on this topic & myself or someone here could have a more enjoyable experience on their next multipitch.
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WyoRockMan
climber
Flank of the Big Horns
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Jul 10, 2014 - 12:03pm PT
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Something like this:
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Jul 10, 2014 - 12:03pm PT
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I have an old REI vest with inside pockets and zipper outer pockets that I would often bring for warmth and pocket storage capacity. If it's hot, I can still wear it or leave it around my waist partially zipped. In the pockets I keep a cheap worn out space blanket, snacks & food for the day, and ninja hat. Sometimes have a topo in the pocket. If it's pretty cold I'll bring another jacket. Almost always bring a camera.
Tie paracord loops onto disposable but amply reusable water or gatorade bottles. If there's a huge descent, I'll bring flip-flops, never brought hiking boots after the first couple of years. That about covers it unless I'm feeling spunky and bring some old smoke-bombs and a lighter as a disaster recovery/location beacon plan.
If there's a good peak and open space, I'll sometimes bring a kite. But I've brought it along many times when there wasn't really time to use it.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Jul 10, 2014 - 12:08pm PT
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Highly depends on forecast, approach distance, climb type, descent.
Some minimals that hang off the harness:
nuttool
belay device
prussik cord or two with spare biner
chapstick
sunscreen
hat
tiny knife
Other stuff for longer routes
approach shoes
water/hydration
music player and earbuds
food (GUs if hump out is uphill)
shell
extra warmth layer
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thebravecowboy
climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
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Jul 10, 2014 - 12:12pm PT
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Rack, victuals & libations, TWO lighters, harness, rope, flipflops for descent, headlamp, cellphone, small pocketknife, maybe some water.
Dong Angerson edit: .50 handcannon, always, with speedloader.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2014 - 12:23pm PT
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Locker,
Do you blow it up at the base or on the summit?
Pipe or PR?
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2014 - 12:24pm PT
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The Hawk
climber
Politard
Jul 10, 2014 - 12:03pm PT
I don't even wear a harness. I just tie weed into a diaper and charge up.
This.
#lulz
Edit- I forgot that I usually have my iPhone in my pocket so I can check supertopo at the belay & take photos.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Jul 10, 2014 - 12:43pm PT
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This is a thread for people that climb.
Beat it kook.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Jul 10, 2014 - 12:51pm PT
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word on the
keychain led light that uses a watch type battery
space blanket if shiver biver is possible
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Jul 10, 2014 - 12:51pm PT
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good question.
I'm out.
Lateskies!
Before I quit this stupid forum...
Ryan- I used to be like you(when I actually climbed) and avoided a pack at all costs.
Now (when I imagine climbing) I've gotten used to one of the modern micro packs, my vertical manpurse. Perfect for frenchies, water, shell, iphone, and shoes.
I hate a bunch of sh#t hanging off my imaginary harness.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Jul 10, 2014 - 01:02pm PT
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I stopped getting lost when I started bringing one of these:
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jul 10, 2014 - 01:10pm PT
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I always make sure my partner brings his testicles, just in case mine wear thin.
Unless I'm climbing with a gal, then she brings whatever she brings for that sort of thing.
Once, on Sons of Yesteryear? I barely needed them since she led all the hard stuff!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 10, 2014 - 01:12pm PT
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If you think you need it...you don't.
If you KNOW you need it...you do.
Aside from tehnical hardware which is different per individual:
I liter of water for climbs up to 7hrs...1.5 for a longer day....never more, it's heavy.
A few GU's or energy bars....food usually doesn't get eaten.
BD Ion headlamp...weighs 1 oz.
Super lt. wt. shell
lighter if wood available
Sunscreen, lip protection
1 rope, you're not going to be hauling
If approach shoes need to be carried I recommend Vibram Five Fingers...super light and take up little room.
Most parties take WAY too much gear and suffer the consequences.
edit: Why do i see people top roping with two belay devices, three cordelettes, and belay gloves hanging from their harnesses.....almost seems to be a uniform requirement.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Jul 10, 2014 - 01:33pm PT
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Oh, I forgot about this too:
But I only bring that for backcountry routes.
And if there is any risk of competition from multiple parties trying to be first on the route, this is the great equalizer:
And it also can be used as a belay device in a pinch.
Edit: Even better climbing/competition multi-tool:
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Gorgeous George
Trad climber
Los Angeles, California
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Jul 10, 2014 - 02:01pm PT
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I'm a minimalist, but some sh#t you got to bring.
Water, snacks (my favorite is cliff bars), cordalette, prussicks (double as runners), a knife, and in case of bad weather, a vest or sweater and a hat. Toilet paper stuffed in a pocket comes in real handy (for nose runs and shit).
Personally, water is an important element so I carry a small camelback. I also carry climbing tape, for repairs, for cuts, scrapes, etc.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Jul 10, 2014 - 02:15pm PT
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Toilet paper is a waste. Runny nose, snot or blood, just blow to the wind. Runny butt, you've got options like leaves, rocks, snow, sticks, moss....
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hamie
Social climber
Thekoots
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Jul 10, 2014 - 02:37pm PT
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Take a few of these, your choice. Remember to leave some for your return.
Always pack the "50 Essentials" from Freedom of the Hills. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you take 'em, you'll need them all.
LOL.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2014 - 03:03pm PT
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NutAgain, if you weren't wearing a vest you could rip a sleeve off & wipe your ass with that :-)
Thanks again everyone for the interesting & funny responses.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Jul 10, 2014 - 03:06pm PT
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Flip flops , sunnies, beanie, wind jacket w/hood, dope, pipe, lighter, belay bunny.
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snowhazed
Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
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Jul 10, 2014 - 03:29pm PT
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a pen too, nothing worse than trying to spray in the summit register and theres no writing implement in the box...
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thebravecowboy
climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
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Jul 10, 2014 - 03:41pm PT
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The most elusive of my essentials: a sexy female with whom you can swap leads (even the hard ones) to jump your bones just before blasting off. Critical.
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ruppell
climber
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Jul 10, 2014 - 05:27pm PT
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Pretty much what Flip Flop listed except tobacco rollies instead of weed.
I carry everything on my harness and absolutely hate wearing a pack. 1/2 liter of water, flip flops for the descent, and a windblock all clipped to my back loop. Beanie stuffed in a cargo pocket. No food.
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Gilroy
Social climber
Bolderado
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Jul 10, 2014 - 05:30pm PT
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tbc - That's fkn hilarious!
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Jul 10, 2014 - 06:35pm PT
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For every noob using a 60 liter pack with the 1200 essentials for single pitch toproping, there's some super tough guy light-is-right-until-it-isn't superhero climbing in a wifebeater and and a Schoeller jockstrap who'll be screamin' for the gendarmarie the second he gets totally hypothermic in a tiny summer thunderstorm.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Jul 10, 2014 - 08:13pm PT
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I used to bring pretty much nothing,
but a few years ago I read an accident report (Temple Crag)
where my friends needed a knife to free up rope trapped under
a block which came off. (They needed the rope to haul the block up off a partner).
So I carry a tiny knife on my harness now, on a tiny but full strength biner.
Mostly it has been used to remove tat from anchors,
or trim slings to leave in anchors.
Once I used it to cut off half our lead line when it hung up rapping
from South Howser Tower in the Bugaboos. This half lead line then also
ended up getting fixed at the lowest anchor so we could reach the glacier
without leaving our second rope behind.
The other stuff I bring varies, depending on what we are doing.
On new routes, often we have lots of heavy stuff in a pack (including
bolt kit and bolts, water, headlamps, warm clothing, food),
and I often jug with it, so weight is not a big factor.
The last multipitch I did was the East Buttress of Middle in 95 degree heat, and I brought:
 1 liter of water clipped to the back of my harness (ended up sharing it with my partner)
a couple of junk bars in my chalk bag
my camera (camera display works as an emergency headlamp)
No descent shoes or second rope, as we used the rap route.
No headlamp because I thought we'd be fast enough (was true).
No hat, because it was pretty hot out.
No prusiks, but the waist belt for my chalk bag is 5mm perlon, a perfect prusik.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jul 10, 2014 - 08:28pm PT
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lighter if wood available
I always bring my wood . . . lighter, not always as toking up late in the day, while semi-dehydrated is not necessarily a good thing. Wait for the beer in the cooler, then burn one down.
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Jul 10, 2014 - 08:41pm PT
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The East Buttress of Middle on a hot summer day reminds me of my experience on that route in, I think, the late sixties (climbing with none other than the Duke of Earl...)
We got hit by a fast-moving and, I suppose, uncharacteristic summer storm. In a few minutes, the entire face was running with ice water several inches deep. I was belaying in a sort of vertical pod which filled with running ice water---I had to sort of crane my neck to keep my face out of it. I was tied in tight and giving the Duke tension as he was trying to climb up the floodwaters, so there was no escaping the soaking.
The result is that I was basically submerged in ice water for fifteen or twenty minutes. Every muscle in my body cramped; I was basically folded up into a tight and very painful ball.
Had the storm continued for any amount of time, I suspect I would have died. But it passed as quickly as it arrived. The rock was soaking wet, and I could barely force my limbs from their most contracted positions. We were pretty high up, so the Duke swung into action and aided up a few wet pitches and we got off. I followed, prying my hands open against the rock at every step so that I could move my improvised aiders and clean the next piton.
We couldn't have imagined something like the OR Helium II in those days; I might have still been using a Holubar 60/40 parka. Nowadays I don't climb anywhere that might have mountain weather without it, 'cause I'm not sure Mother Nature will be giving out second chances, and I've sure as hell used up the first one.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Jul 10, 2014 - 09:06pm PT
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Got to be able to look the gf directly in the eyeballs
and make her believe the big lie by slipping in some truth:
we can't rap off because the ropes not long enough
but hey, nice the mosquitoes don't fly this high!
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2014 - 11:13pm PT
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Lol awesome stuff!
As mentioned in the opening post. The essentials I listed are the ones I use around here in the land of 35M pitches with bolted rappel anchors that you can piss on a tourist gondola from & the spatter will hit the highway.
These essentials do not apply everywhere. That's kind of why I asked all of you, to see what you bring. A lot of good perspectives.
I have made the mistake of approaching long routes in other places than Squamish with the same casual attitude as we are able to get away with around here & have definitely learned a few lessons through suffering as well.
Lol just remembered my friend Josh approaching north six shooter in flip flops.
n the mountains of course essentials are obviously a whole different ball game & it would be impossible to quantify what is essential in such a vast realm of variable objectives.
This is why I asked specifically about multipitch rock climbs, the classics that are hopefully done with aspirations of not being late for work, or a beer back at the car or bar before the sun goes down.
Lots of classic stuff here & great info, but yeah brave cowboy seems to have sh#t pretty figured out :-)
Even though i meant material items, one would still gain much wisdom from climbing with the warbler methinks.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Jul 10, 2014 - 11:17pm PT
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Ok, I didn't quit this stupid forum ;-)
before the sun goes down
I bring a headlamp no matter what.
Once was enough.
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SeanH
Trad climber
SLC
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Jul 11, 2014 - 01:38am PT
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Harness, 8 lockers, 2 metolius PASs, Bolt kit
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 11, 2014 - 11:00am PT
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I bring a headlamp no matter what.
LOL! I guided a dude on a FA in the N Cascades in September. That's not the LOL part.
Well, I guess it really is in that back then the Wonder headlight was about yer only option. Of
course,the name does derive from "It's a wonder that POS is allowed to be sold." Anyway, we
didn't make it off before beer-thirty as planned, miracle of miracles. It being September might
have had something to do with it. Naturally the Wonder failed to perform, or even work. But I
wasn't totally unprepared, I had a regular flashlight too! OK, maybe it was the client's. Anyway,
It was a lot of fun downclimbing with it in my big mouth, especially the part above the schrund
where I was inches below his crampons so I could shine the feeble beam on the holds and
guide his boots with my one free hand. This was only a pass/fail test, right?
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