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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 30, 2014 - 06:45pm PT
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OK, I need all 4 wisdoms taken out... I think all of them are under the gums...
So, I am scared real bad about getting general anesthesia, like A5r bad. like night mare on california street bad...
So I think I am going to do it fully awake with numbing stuff for pain, I am also kind of scared of that though.. I am told by my docter that there is no pain but a lot of presure and sounds...
So have any of you guys done this wisdom teeth thing awake? All the comments about it is helpful..
I have a pretty high pain tollerance. But not really ammon mcneely pain tollence either!
So what should I do? Face my fears and go to sleep or take the pain and stay awake?
Much thanks in advance!
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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Jun 30, 2014 - 06:48pm PT
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just had one pulled and it was no big deal-But it really came out easy. My advice would be to get as much pain killer as possible. it's better to ache afterwards.
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ruppell
climber
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Jun 30, 2014 - 06:50pm PT
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I am told by my docter that there is no pain
LOL. First get an honest dentist.
I had all four of mine pulled without anesthesia when I was 16. I got off school early. Went to the office and had all four yanked at the same time. With a mouth full of gauze I asked the dentist if it was OK to go bow hunting that afternoon. He said yes but doubted whether I would. Well, I did. I figured I could be sitting on the couch hurting like hell or doing something I enjoyed hurting like hell. The point being here is that it hurt like hell.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Jun 30, 2014 - 06:54pm PT
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Haha, my dentist said he'd never had as much trouble with mine. I was awake and he worked his ass off for two straight hours. He only got two of them and the next two, which I need to do,I will gladly be put out. Was kinda cool to see him putting all his weight into trying to pull them and then his look of frustration after each failure. It sucks but you'll get through it and what better time to do it when you are already hurt?
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 30, 2014 - 06:59pm PT
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this just in,
Did you feel pain though?? It was uncomfortable, but pain?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:01pm PT
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you're young and you'll heal back up...
when I had mine done (pretty late in life, in my 30s) it was at a polish dentist in Belchertown, MA. He had a couple of nurses assisting him, they were really big Brünnhilde like ladies. They were instrumental in keeping me in my seat while the dentist pliered my wisdom teeth out. It sounded like a wooden ship on heavy seas... but I didn't feel a thing.
probably a good thing to do now as you have insurance (I assume) and you're otherwise unavailable for climbing... get all that stuff out of the way and clear your time
don't fear it, dentistry is better now then it was back when I had mine out, and a lot better than earlier times...
where's guido when you need him! he has subject area expertise
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:01pm PT
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under the gums
that's oral surgery, not getin some teeth pulled.
Don't worry they give you sodium pentothal.
(Truth serum)
Your mom should get the list of questions ready ahead of time.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:02pm PT
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The pain comes after, just like Randisi says, just a lot of pressure. I would just prefer to take a nap through it next time and not have to keep my mouth open and watch some guy I don't know wrench on my jaw.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:05pm PT
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The worst part (after the first couple of days) is keeping the crap out of the holes until they heal closed.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:08pm PT
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Let 'em knock you out. Chances are someday later in life you'll be knocked out for something else. Do it now and next time it'll be C2.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:11pm PT
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I had mine done when I was 18. . . they gave me novocaine and then
sodium pentathol to put me under. . .
the last thing I remember I was making time with the lovely assistant,
the next thing I know I'm waking up in the recovery room. . .okay
there was some pain afterwards, but I had a prescription to take care of that too--all 4 pulled.
Just don't eat sunflower seeds till you heal up--it's a bear getting
them out of the holes!!!!
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MarkWestman
Trad climber
Talkeetna, Alaska
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:13pm PT
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I had all four of mine pulled when I was 19. I had never had a general anesthetic either, so out of uneasiness with that, I had a local.
BIG MISTAKE.
19 shots of Lidocaine (after discovering the hard way that the first one or two in each corner wasn't nearly enough), and four hours of listening and feeling the dentist literally scraping metal against my jawbone and tearing my teeth out of their sockets later, I had the lidocaine wear off before my dad was able to go get my prescription codeine...which then didn't work at all. After several hours of writhing in pain I called the doc and got a prescription for Percocets, which did the trick.
I've had three general anesthetic procedures since then. It's no big deal. You blink and you're in the recovery room already doped up. Take the red pill.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:16pm PT
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I was knocked out with sedatives I think not sure what they used really.. thank god.. cause the next few days were the worst pain I ever endured. I think you could cut off my arm and that would not be so bad..Something about pain in the head that is just way worse to me.
I should probably delete this post.. but I can't help myself...
YER NOT GUNNA DIE...
But you might wish you had
At least you'll forget about your ankle for a while.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:22pm PT
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Had all 4 of mine pulled out, 2 at a time, with local anesthetic over a couple visits. I was awake, but don't remember that much about it. It was not a big deal, and I did not have any pain. I've always had very good dentists though, who usually "hide" their tools and what they are about to do, to alleviate fear, etc. I really hate needles, so am glad to rarely see them.
It probably depends on how your wisdom teeth are situated, and what's involved for the dentist. Ask him if any of the removals will be complicated. I might have been a little bit sore afterwards, but felt nothing during the extrications.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:23pm PT
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hey there say, whitemeat...
oh my... first off, wow, i sure feel for you, :(
dentist have been a 'bad deal' on my trail, as to insurance sucking bad dentist, as my mom told me we (her and i--or me and her--our bad english, instead of 'my mother and i' both) (the boys, were saved from this... )...
well--this was AFTER ALL THAT 'scam experience'... but still, scary stuff...
so, i was 19, and got them ALL FOUR, out...
and had my first son, by then (who later, at home, kept hitting me in the sore jaw, being so happy to see me and wanting to play)...
and my mom was there with me...
and, well, they put me under, got it done, but when i woke up, my mom was very strangely upset:
seems they almost could NOT wake me up!!!
so yeah, stay awake if you can... perhaps, too, i think whatever really puts one out, so heavy, MUST?? not be good for the ol' brain??
but then, too, though--this was FORTY years ago...
:O
i just like to warn folks to CHECK ALL OPTIONS and glean many stories from
'those that have journeyed before' as to whatever... :)
best wishes and prayers, and my it all go well...
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:24pm PT
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Where is micronut when needed? You should have him do it.. That would make a good TR.. We could find out if he's really as good as he seems.
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John M
climber
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:28pm PT
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Whitemeet.. thats something to talk to your doc about. What happens if you have a lot of pain afterwards.
usually you need to take more meds, or different ones. The thing about pain is that you have to stay on top of it. Take the meds when you are supposed to and don't wait until you have pain. For the first few days take them on a schedule. The weaker pain meds are meant to maintain a certain level of no pain which requires keeping up the meds.. They aren't strong enough to knock more serious pain out. If you end up with more serious pain, then you probably need something stronger.
Believe me.. they got some good stuff at the doctors office. :-)
I crushed my nose playing rugby and had to have surgery on it. Afterwards I waited until I had pain before I took my pain meds. Big mistake. Called the doc. He sent me to the emergency room and they gave me something which made me go la la in about 45 seconds. hahaha.. maybe not such a big mistake after all. :-)
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:31pm PT
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Had two pulled at 19. The doctor gave me a shot of sodium pentothal. I was floating on the ceiling. He said, do you feel anything from that? I sadi no. He gave me some more. Now I was pleasantly bouncing around on the ceiling.
As he was working away he was humming, and I was really digging his chops. Then he drilled a hole in the bottom tooth. He then stuck a probe in there and used it like a pry bar. I was out after that. Woke up in recovery.
The third one, years later, came out real easy. So a few months later the dentist said, let's go ahead and pull the other one.
Ever see the WC Fields movie where he's a dentist? It was like that.
Like ruppell I went and traversed Starr King in some pain. I've forgotten the pain, but remember the traverse.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
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Very complex question Whitemeat without knowing the level of impaction and many, many other factors. No simple answer from all the input here on ST but you need to talk with MicroNut as he is the go-to-guy on ST for teeth. Trust me, there are times when you want to be under a general or light Intermittent anesthesia for this and there are situations where it is not necessary. Alas, don't fret too much it isn't 5.13.
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John M
climber
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:41pm PT
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Harvey Korman and Tim Conway.. two of the funniest people. I loved the Carol Burnet show.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:59pm PT
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Whiteboy...have em knock you out and make sure you get the pain meds before the surgery so that you can have them nearby when the pain starts coming on after surgery...Not that big of a deal and not as scary as El Cap...When i came to the nurses were molesting me...not really , Just kidding..rj
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Roxy
Trad climber
CA Central Coast
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Jun 30, 2014 - 07:59pm PT
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mine were under the gums BITD when they got extracted
my dentist really cared about my welfare
he encouraged me to go under. with a Rx after it's NBD
if you stay awake it'll be a Jim Bridwell vacation, if you know what I mean
.02,
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jun 30, 2014 - 08:04pm PT
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It is interesting to see how many of the pull 4 Wisdom teeth under Anesthesia, stories here ----- are nearly identical to mine.
However!
After the pull, a friend drove me 150 miles home and I slept upright as directed, with painkillers easing my sleep.
Sometime in the night, I awoke with a really bad stomach, stumbled into my bathroom, and puked, and, puked, and puked-------a stomach-full of blood.
My bleeding sockets had been leaking blood down into my throat & stomach all night.
At Age 19, shivering & cold, kneeling in front of the toilet, was perhaps the first time I really thought:
Im going to die!
It was much later, after talking with my ex-father-in-law Doctor Anesthesiologist about this experience, that I realized the level of risk involved in being knocked-out in a dentists office. The ex-father-in-law was shocked and appalled, since he was a Doctor with 4 years of additional medical school, and he only worked with patients in a hospital environment, with full hospital back-up in case any problems happened.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Jun 30, 2014 - 08:10pm PT
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YER
GONNA
BE IN A BIT OF PAIN FOR A FEW DAYS. HARDEN THE F*** UP!!!!!!!!!! :)
I had one of them taken out and dentist forgot to prescribe me pain killers. By the time I got home I had tears coming out from one eye and was shivering. It sucked big time. Make sure to get your pain meds!
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salad
Big Wall climber
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Jun 30, 2014 - 08:10pm PT
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its no big deal. the last one I had pulled out was just with a local. the tooth was actually broken in half and had a bad cavity. the dentist reasoned that since I broke it in half and lived with the cavity for 1 year without ever coming in that I wouldn't need pain killers, so no script.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Jun 30, 2014 - 08:27pm PT
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I had all 4 pulled, they were all under the gums and 3 were impacted. I saved $350(?) dollars by not getting put out. When the oral surgeon had to climb up on the chair-thing and my head was being jerked around, I was thinking I should have spent the money.
In a couple days I got dry socket. It was extremely painful, then came the rotten dragon's breath, which made it all worth it. My freinds still remember the breath of death.
Good luck :)
BTW, my surgeon was Salinas Oral Surgeon Dr. Terry Slaughter DDS. ... 420 E Romie Ln Map. Salinas, CA 93901
31 years back.
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Jun 30, 2014 - 08:29pm PT
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No big deal for me. Get knocked out. Take care of yourself when you wake up..
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Jun 30, 2014 - 08:31pm PT
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I had two taken out in my late teens. Local only. I still remember the dentist with his knee on my chest, reefing away on one with a big pair of pliers and a lot of force. I remember thinking that if he slipped, it was going to make a big mess of my face.
If they are complicated, I'd go for the general. Sooner or later you'll have that anyway. It's no big deal.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Jun 30, 2014 - 08:34pm PT
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I had all 4 yanked at once when I was about 18 or 19, fully unconscious. Spent the day after convalescing (mostly laying down?) on some strong pain meds, don't remember much but overall was not that big of deal.
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 30, 2014 - 08:59pm PT
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Wisdom teeth are there to give you wisdom.
Just see how Americans pull them all out and become stooopid .....
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jun 30, 2014 - 09:02pm PT
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Braun...Will dentures restore wisdom...? rj
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Jun 30, 2014 - 09:33pm PT
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I had two done at once, with just local anesthesia.
I did not feel any pain during the procedure. But they are pulling a perfectly health giant tooth out of your face and the amount of pulling and pressure is huge. Different people will react differently to that. Can you watch a needle being put in your arm? Can you watch them stitching you up? I guess what I'm saying is, I personally am not squeemish so it didn't bother me, but it was a unique and unpleasant experience.
"general" anesthesia now is quite different than it was 20-30 years ago. A little fentenyl (sp?) fairly benign. I'd go that route if I did it again today.
The pain afterwards is pretty horrible. You need to take your meds.
good luck, Phyl
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Jun 30, 2014 - 09:34pm PT
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Get put under.
Never look back
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Jun 30, 2014 - 09:50pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video].
Get put under.
Never look back ^ Excellent advise.
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The pain afterwards is pretty horrible. You need to take your meds. Yup...
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When the Dentist/ Oral Surgeon... starts talking about dry socket >>Listen and obey..
I will spare you my nightmare story..
I feel for you...Good luck!!
It's good you are young and getting it done.
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Daphne
Trad climber
Northern California
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Jun 30, 2014 - 09:53pm PT
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I had all four pulled and was on laughing gas not under general anaesthesia. They were all impacted. I don't remember a thing about the procedure now (30 years later) but I remember the week after was spent in a Percocet haze due to pain.
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RP3
Big Wall climber
Sonora
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Jun 30, 2014 - 10:00pm PT
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You will crush it. Thousands of people who are not El Cap badasses get their wisdom teeth pulled every day;)
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jun 30, 2014 - 10:21pm PT
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Chin up there, Whitemeat. You'll be fine.
The local painkiller they use today is a hell of a lot more effective than the crap they used in the past.
A couple years ago, when my dentist was grinding down one of my teeth so he could fit a crown on it, it was all I could do to keep from laughing during the process because even though I could not feel a damn thing, I knew it had to be hurting like Hell. I thought that was just the funniest thing.
When I had my wisdom teeth done, I woke up during the deal. That wasn't one of my better wake-ups. Going local sounds like a good choice.
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T.J.
climber
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Jun 30, 2014 - 10:35pm PT
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Can be scary, get that. I had mine pulled but only had two tops. The anesthesia they gave me was supposed to be one where I wouldn't remember a thing. Then the surgeon came in and popped those suckers out just like that. I remember the whole thing, I thought he was gonna put his foot on my chest for more leverage! But go under if you can. Save the suffering for something fun. If not take a deep breath, psych up, put some LOUD music on and you'll tell your kids a blend of the same stories in the up posts.
T.J.
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briham89
Big Wall climber
san jose and south lake tahoe, ca
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Jun 30, 2014 - 10:59pm PT
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Getting put under weirds me out too.
I went under for my wisdom teeth and it wasn't bad.
You just fall asleep and wake up! You've been doing it every night your whole life. Same thing!
The funny thing is I remember falling asleep at the dentist, but I don't remember getting home (my mom drove me). So it was like I fell asleep at the dentist and woke up at home on my couch. Kinda weird, but it's just like waking up normally so it's not bad.
You'll be fine!
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KabalaArch
Trad climber
Starlite, California
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Jun 30, 2014 - 11:15pm PT
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If they are complicated, I'd go for the general. Sooner or later you'll have that anyway. It's no big deal.
After a few surgeries, there's no doubt here that, in general, the General can be far more debilitating than the procedure itself. Back when I was your age, surgeons had to work fast!
Kidden', of course. I had 2 impacted on one side removed under a local; the remaining 2 the following week. For post-op pain, I was Rx'd ice cream. Age 19, I lamented the loss of a PK entitlement. But, at least I could handle I scream on one side of my handsome jawline, at a time.
I'm in a better position now to understand the LDS oral surgeon's politics on that count.
The key thing here is: don't procrastinate, get it done and over with. That's if the girls like your smile...or even if they don't.
It's a boulder B1...not even some C1.
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mark miller
Social climber
Reno
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Jun 30, 2014 - 11:20pm PT
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Dude I had my jaw shattered by an elevator accident in the 70's...I used to be so anti anesthetic that it took my local study group of physicians by surprise but to tell you the truth it would all have been less traumatic with more med s. Take the med s (as much as you can get , just make sure when you wake up your underwear is on correctly ) and don't even think twice about the wisdom tooth removal. POC. Easier then an impacted tooth by far,
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Jun 30, 2014 - 11:33pm PT
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So have any of you guys done this wisdom teeth thing awake? All the comments about it is helpful..
I have a pretty high pain tollerance. But not really ammon mcneely pain tollence either!
So what should I do? Face my fears and go to sleep or take the pain and stay awake?
Much thanks in advance!
 Did it fully awake, some (expensive) amount of a cane of some kind. Total of 8 ugly teeth (2 wisdom - from there its been down hill on my wisdom digits) to get rid of to make room for a decent smile.
I don't remember too much of the day, and had a vicadin script to sleep it off the week...
Its not that bad once its done. But the painful way is the only way, unfortunately.
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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I thought he was gonna put his foot on my chest for more leverage!
Yeah, that's what it's like. Huge effort to pull a healthy tooth out!
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PAUL SOUZA
Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
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Micronut is the resident tooth guy on the Taco. He's the guy to talk to.
I've been put under twice for non-tooth surgery and it is the way to go. It's like going to sleep then waking right back up, but it's been hours since you went to sleep.
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Crazy Bat
Sport climber
Birmingham, AL & Seweanee, TN
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I had mine out in 1982. Things have changed a lot. Propophol for one. Back then it was way more serious to go under genera. I had heard all these horror stories about dry sockets. So I started asking those who had dry sockets about how they had it done. Everyone I talked to about bad experiences had had it done under local.
An issue no one has mentioned here is that some facial nerves go very close to the roots of the teeth. Mine were particularly vulnerable and my surgeon refused to remove them under local because he would have more control if I was unconscious. I still had a dry socket. It turned out to not be as bad as the description.
I would go under again in a heartbeat today. Back then there was no such thing as going home after a procedure of any kind because of the anesthesia. They have much better drugs today, so good you wake up fully after it is over.
Talk to the person who will put you under and tell them your fears. They can tell you what they will do, explain any complications that are possible and tell you how they are prepared in the event any of them happen.
It is a rite of passage. You crawled down from El Cap after breaking your leg. I know people who can't even hike up there. You are tough. You have what it takes to handle this.
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tornado
climber
lawrence kansas
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I have one wisdom tooth that came in fine that I still have, two that never came through, and one that came in sideways that was hurtin' me like a mutha and needed to be yanked. I looked up an oral surgeon and made an appointment. The guy came in the room looked at the tooth gave me a shot in the gum, left, came back gave me another shot, picked up the knife made a slice and yanked the sucka out with a pair of pliers in one yank. A couple of stitches and it was done.
I asked if we should take the other ones out that had not come through and the guy told me he could go digging for them and bust them all out but it was better to wait and see if they bothered me and then come back. This way I would not have two or three more holes in my mouth, more chance for an infection, and more pain from excavating and busting up the things.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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I remember the oral surgeon asking if I wanted general or local. I asked "what's the difference?" "Well", he says, "the only people who die choke to death under general." I did local and didn't feel anything.
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Lanthade
climber
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Don't be stupid, get the general.
I've had multiple teeth pulled - nearly 20. Most of them were baby teeth, but All the molars had full roots. It's not fun, it is a little painful. It is also highly unpleasant. Except the wisdom teeth. Full anesthesia, cake. It's not like they're bunched together and a couple numbing shots does them all. Nope, different shots for each one. Nerve blocks, digging, cutting, sawing, tweaking, wrenching, yanking.
Get the general, you'll be so much happier, don't be stupid.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Chew gum for PT.
take about 4 days off......
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 1, 2014 - 08:57am PT
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Just got word from the doc, They don't have any time for me as long as I have my cast on... So I will have it done during my school year in fall or winter. That means I have like 4 more months of being worried :(
Thanks for all the comments guys! You have all made me start to swing towards having general! Which still freaks me out!
What the hell are "dry sockets"??
ALL the comments have been helpful! Thank you very much!
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Wow ron. Hardcore dude!!!!
Wait and see if you have any REAL problems, THEN do something about it...
This was my plan too. Two abscesses later i realized how much that plan sucked!
Abscesses/impacted teeth are no fun. Your gums swell up like a balloon and puss like hell.. Oh ya. It hurts like a son of a bitch too. They can't even pull em' when they are infected like that. They gave me some antibiotics and told me to come back in a week to yank em.
This happened twice too because i didn't have to cash to get the other ones done, so it happened again. The pain was excruciating, a threshold topped only by breaking my spine.
Both abscess extractions were done under local. As this just in said, the worst part is holding your mouth open for so long (while you drool all over the floor) and having the doc scraping around in there with the tools.
I had a third wisdom extracted later under general. This is the way to go dude. No discomfort, no memory of some dude sticking his hands in your mouth for what seems like way too long.
Stop being such a pussy Mickey! You send El cap for fvck sakes. This sh!t's Swan Slab style. You got it in the bag.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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When I took my bad fall my jaw hit my knee and I fractured the bone above and below my upper and lower jaw - the bone in which my teeth were set. Hairline fractures grew over time, my teeth started getting crooked and lose, and I was informed I had to get most all my teeth yanked and replaced with implants at about 25 million dollars. So I just went in and had the extractions done with just some local numb juice and let me tell you, it took seven hours (had to have bone graft work done as well) and was downright medieval. As Ed was saying, once that dentinst bears down and those pliers start to singing, it's like being chained up in the galley of an old wooden clipper ship when it's rounding the Horn in a typhoon. The horror . . .
So if there is really some diging in store, go to a dentist that can put you out and avoid the really nasty part of the job - being awake when those pliers are singing in your cakehole. That's hell.
JL
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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No biggie. Had four sutpid teeth taken out around 7 years ago. Novacaine only. It was actually kind of trippy to listen to the bone breaking as the teeth were tourqued out. Got a scrip for codiene/aspirin combo; only took one. Then again I have a high pain threshold; lived in Texas for 12 years.
Surprised a kid that does walls is afraid of getting a few teeth pulled.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Whitemeatman, when you are rehabing that leg, volunteer to push some of these old f#cks around the Valley in their wheelchairs. They can tell stories about amputations without painkillers, you get to work out and scope the walls.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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I had all 4 pulled on the same day!
saved my money then paid the Dr to pull em!
It hurt for a couple days!
had huge holes which hurt when food got stuck in there.
everything will be alright!
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Back in the stone age
I had all four taken out at once. My (excellent) dentist said "you don't want to go through this twice!"
He also said I didn't need general anesthetic so we did local.
The actual extractions were not as bad as the root canals he had done the year before. (My bad oral hygiene as a teen)
I lived 25 miles from my dentist and he recommended I not drive that far back home.
So I arranged with a friend to recover on her couch while she was at work.
I don't remember the actual extractions as being very painful. Didn't like the sensation of my head being yanked around!
Drove myself to my friend's apt.
After I laid down on her couch and the locals started wearing off was when the pain really began. Oral pain meds weren't so great then. I really hurt all day. By evening, after some warm soup, jello, etc from my friend, I was feeling well enough to drive the 20 miles home. Didn't go to work the next day.
Serious but lessening discomfort for a few days.
You'll be right as rain in two days. If not, RUN don't walk back to the dentist.
This is no longer the Stone Age. Don't fret it. Unless you have a very low pain tolerance, do the locals. You'll survive.
Probably a good idea to have a comfy couch and TV/DVD ready for when you get home. Plan on staying home the next day so stock up with bananas, pre-made pudding, jello, etc. Keep up with your oral pain meds!!
A gorgeous young woman to nurse you ain't bad either. (she WAS a looker and sweet as can be)
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Whitey!
Stay away from this thread!
I pull wisdom teeth all the time and it should be no real big deal. Get KO'd. You'll be bouldering in five days and sending A5 within a week if you want. Bunch of sissies like John Long on this thread jus trying to scare a kid. Lightweights. Alll of em.
Just plan to sit on the couch and watch Dosage 1-6 or the entire Band Of Brothers box set for a day or two.
Trust me.
I'm a doctor.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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^^^^
would you let THIS maniac pull your wisdom teeth?
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 1, 2014 - 12:11pm PT
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HA! I woud actually prefer scott do it!
Thanks every body!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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So.. micronut.. tell us the story of when you got your wisdom teeth pulled....
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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4 full bony impactions here.
Twilight sleep (demerol/valium)+ some 'caine.
If they have to cut them out of the bone it's a bigger deal but still not rocket science. I felt no pain until after. I do remember coming to at one point and the guy had his knee on my chest for leverage with a whole assortment of large metal objects in my mouth crunching away and a wee bit of blood spattered on his scrubs.
If the crowns are exposed/out of the bone it's much simpler with far less trauma and healing time.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Climbski2,
Total nightmare. I had a buddy of mine who was a budding young oral surgery resident take mine out while I was a dental student. He oversedated me with versed after I "allegedly" became combative while going under. I hurt terribly for six days and got dry socket afterwards because he was a total baffoon of a surgeon and ended up not making it through the residency. The swelling was immense and I remember taking a biochem test in a Vicodin induced haze three days post op. I whined a lot that first week according to my wife, but I'm kind of a pansy.
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jonnyrig
climber
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I had all four pulled at once. Worst part was the stupid video I had to watch about possible complications, whereupon I had a mild panic attack and nearly didn't go through with it.
Both left and right lowers were facing forward instead of vertical. Lower right got a dry socket, which they fixed me up for later. But the actual surgery? Cake. Knocked the f*#k out. Only way to go.
Just getting lower molars filled was worse by far and hurt far longer.
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PAUL SOUZA
Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
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Whitemeat,
I've been in Scott's chair. You will be in great hands.
Take care
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 1, 2014 - 02:40pm PT
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Docter called back... There is an open spot :( I am wierdly terrified! I would rather free solo central piller of frenzy then do this! And that climb is not too easy for me! I hate wisdom teeth! So scared..
I guess I can climb bigwalls but I am certaintly a real life pussy! like real freaken bad.
Give me support supertopo gang! no more pics from largo :) Or scary videos from marlow!
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T.J.
climber
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Dude you will be fine! Seriously! Sore for a couple days. That's it! Really.
T.J.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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As painful experiences in life go, wisdom teeth extraction was mellow for me. I went under and had all four taken out. I awoke to the nurses laughing at what I was saying while out. They wouldn't tell me what I said. A month later I had a couple of dreams where the oral surgeon had his foot up on the chair trying very hard to pull out my teeth. Other than that and some normal healing discomfort, it was a breeze. I have had several regular teeth pulled using a local and that is more of an ordeal in my experience.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Sack up! Ain't no big deal. Seriously. See my earlier post. Not to say it is a pleasant time but I've been torn up worse during a week end in Joshua Tree.
edit: 4 at once for me. Relatively painless. Just wierd listening to the noise and toungeing the holes until they heal.
Post a TR and ask the dentist to use a gopro. On second thought, please don't.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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GO WHITE MEAT! GO. Time to tighen up that harness, pull out the beaks, get in that top step and send you whiner!
You got this. Seriously. Send pics and post up while in surgery!
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WBraun
climber
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Each wisdom tooth pulled and yer IQ drops 20 points.
So 4 wisdom teeth pulled you become ........
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Paul Martzen
Trad climber
Fresno
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I had my wisdom teeth pulled in my late 40' and early 50's though not all at once. Didn't know mirconut then, but another surgeon in Fresno. I went under and woke up with minimal pain. I took no meds afterwards and had no pain. I remember being quite amazed at the lack of pain. Just kept the socket clean and had no problems.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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What's the big deal. Get the gas and take a nice nap. I remember having a nice dream with my dad and the dentist's nurse dancing along a giant row of teeth singing a song about teeth. No sh#t. Thirty years later, still very vivid. You count to ten while inhaling gas and wake up with a bunch of gauze stuffed in your mouth. What could be easier?
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Not sharing a tent with fat dad.
Johntp. You shouldn't admit to toungeing your holes on the internet.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Each wisdom tooth pulled and yer IQ drops 20 points.
So 4 wisdom teeth pulled you become ........
Why? Why would someone post something this stupid?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Why? Why would someone post something this stupid?
I guess you've had all yours jerked, n'est ce pas?
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crankster
Trad climber
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Got em all, Frenchie. But I'm guessing you're toothless.
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 1, 2014 - 07:10pm PT
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"Stupid is as stupid does"
Hehe! Thanks dudes!
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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When I woke up my jaw was wired shut. Dentist had pulled so hard she dislocated my jaw. Took 8 weeks to heal. Really hurt when they snipped the wires and removed the wraps around and through the bone. Gained 4 pounds on vanilla milkshakes....
;-)
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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no more pics from largo
Seriously. That was a gross photo!
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Get put under! It's crazy, watch the fluid come towards your arm, try to to fall asleep, next thing you know your teeth are gone, BAM!
Worse case scenario you get put under and never wake up, that's not a bad way to go though?
Icing on the cake, pain meds for a few weeks. It makes ST really entertaining.
PS, don't try to go on a 30 mile bike ride the next day like I did, your friends will have to walk you home.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Don't go climbing with inner ear vertigo either. Unless you want the added challenge of the feel of falling with the rock still firmly in grasp.
I vote again for getting knocked out.
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ruppell
climber
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I can't get over how many people are endorsing being put under. Sure it hurts but not nearly as bad as other injuries one can incur.
whitemeat
Your obviously worried about the whole thing. Think of it this way. You have a chance to look fear in the eye and deal with it. Or you can be put under and never get that chance. What one do you think will make you a stronger person in the future?
Going without anesthesia will definitely give you a better understanding of your pain tolerance. Something that might serve you well in the future.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Anesthesia is the bomb.....so fine, and there is a decent chance you'll come out of it.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Going without anesthesia will definitely give you a better understanding of your pain tolerance. Something that might serve you well in the future.
True say.. But all four at the same time on local?? That's torture! One was bad enough!!!
Lol. Knowing i had a high pain tolerance did very little for me when it came to real pain, and real drugs. Sure it was nice to have a reference point, but i think it made me stubborn to take the pain meds early enough and then the pain would sneak up on me and it would be unbearable.
Getting your teeth pulled shouldn't be a formative experience... Unless you do it yourself i guess! Lol
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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why are you scared?
count the ways..
be explicit, (no points off for bad spelling or grammar...)
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Mikey you need to come to Nepal with me sometime for some "immersion therapy" Seeing me do what I do in the bush will make you stoked to have this done in the US with air conditioning and no water buffalo or goats in the surgical field.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Johntp. You shouldn't admit to toungeing your holes on the internet.
Too funny; made me laugh out loud at work!
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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So if there is really some diging in store, go to a dentist that can put you out and avoid the really nasty part of the job - being awake when those pliers are singing in your cakehole. That's hell.
JL
Cakehole.... HaHaHaHa......
JOHN, if I recall, you have experience pulling teeth. Might be a good time to let WM know that story. You know give him something to think about.....
And Micronut.... good on you and your good deeds.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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It didn't happen until we've seen the Trip Report.
micronut......good work!
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2014 - 08:01pm PT
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Haha, I will update this post or put a TR up after it happens! Y'all can expect that wed or Thursday!
I don't want that day to come!!!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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I lived in Apathy House and made a few bucks on the yard crew at Monterey College, got food stamps, and shared rent with three roomies.
None of them believed me when I told them I'd been to the dentist.
"Where'd you get that kind of money, Mouse?"
It cost me only $20.00 to have my trench-mouth scraped AND all 4 wisdoms removed.
I must have been good to my mother or something, cuz that's the best medical deal I've ever had.
"Believe it or not!"
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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I had mine done 4 at once. I was playing trumpet for a living and needed minimal down time. Sodium pentathol was awesome, fell in love with nurse right there. The oral surgeon used some kind of impact tool ( a dental funkness thing ) to shatter the tooth and pulled out he pieces.I played the solo part in the Mozart posthorn serenade 5 dsys after.
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 8, 2014 - 10:51am PT
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So, the docter prescribed 15mg of valium, I have never taken it, what does that do? he says I will be very tired and out of it...
15mg sounds very high, I have been reading and most people take 5-10mg... I am not no heavy dude either...
Thanks!
Randisi: 17 years old dowg :)
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 8, 2014 - 10:53am PT
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The surgery happens tomarow, I take the valium 1 hour before surgery... I will let yall know after!
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Whitemeat call the office to see how much of that Valium you should take. Some of that might be for the night before.
I agree. 15mg might be a bit much for a stringbean like you.
And btw, beg the assistant to take some photos on your phone of the 'during" and right after. Make sure to tell her the code or unlock it. Enjoy, and post up!
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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I will let yall know after! Probably not right away after...heh...heh....heh........
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Best of luck tomorrow! What a summer you are having??!!!!
Take care, TR to follow, no doubt!
Susan
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 9, 2014 - 12:38pm PT
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Alright folks,
At 8:25 this morning I took 15mg of valium ... That had zero effect on me, didn't make me feel anything... Weird!
At 9:30 I went in, I was freaked out but I just kept telling myself that I have climbed el cap, this ain't nothing! They put in the Iv and a thing on my nose... I was out, now it gets weird, I woke up kind of, i woke up to the dude pulling teeth and what not, no pain but I tried to talk, they said I was doing great and I think they put me back out... Then I was in the car with my mom, that's the last thing I remember! I drove home and now have gnarly numb chin and lips... Can't talk right. So overall, so far anyway, that was easy as hell!! If it doesn't get worse from here on out then this whole thing was nothing to ever worry about!
Woooooohoooooo! Hanging out with my dog watching climbing videos!
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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If it doesn't get worse from here on out then this whole thing was nothing to ever worry about!
You are obviously still on the pain meds.
It'll get a little edgy as they wear off....but you're a tough guy and will do just fine!!!
Put those teeth under your pillow. The tooth fairy pays handsomely on the wisdom.
Susan
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 9, 2014 - 04:16pm PT
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Thats the thing, I haven't taken any pain meds... And don't think I am going to need them either!
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Ya you did. You took the valium and when they put you out they probably had some in that too.
Be ready. It's gonna suck for a bit.. Lol not too bad though. The worst is over. Just keep those cotton things in the holes so they don't get infected. Don't smoke or drink through a straw either. Trust me. Don't mess with dry infected hole. No bueno.
They didn't give you any t3's or anything? Get your mom to give you at least some Ibuprofen or something so you can sleep tonight.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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If you get through this okay consider having the rest removed and getting some dentures. You won't have to worry when you get into remote alpine regions far away from a dentist.....I know that someone as keen as you is headed in that direction.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Look at Whitemeat.....four hour out.....all hopped up on narcotics and brave right now. Sayin' he don't need no stinkin' pills. By tomorrow he'll be swollen like a chipmunk and beggin for the morphine and Jim Beam.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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BETTER FASTER STRONGER TOUGHER
We have the technology!
(hmm methinks WM may be too young to catch the reference)
Get that appendix removed while at it.
Whitemeat the bionic alpinist!
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Thats the thing, I haven't taken any pain meds... And don't think I am going to need them either!
That's the problem. There's probably still a lot of meds in your system...the trick is stay ahead of the curve...once pain starts it's harder to rein it back in. Perhaps you are one of the lucky ones but monitor it carefully....no reason to needlessly suffer!
Take care!
Susan
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Look at Whitemeat.....four hour out.....all hopped up on narcotics and brave right now. Sayin' he don't need no stinkin' pills. By tomorrow he'll be swollen like a chipmunk and beggin for the morphine and Jim Beam.
Lol... Spoken by the dentist himself.. Get ready Mickey!!! Lol!! You'll do fine..
Listen to Susan!! Take the drugs b4 it hurtz!!!
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 9, 2014 - 05:54pm PT
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I dont know gang... It really doesn't hurt at all... I have never taken any pain pills yet or anything.
It is just sore, like i can notice that the dude had my jaw wrenched open for an hour type thing...
I am not going to take them pain pills until i feel pain... I know you guys think it is wrong but i guess we will see!!!
Hey Donini, If i do that will you take me on a trip somewhere like the bugaboos? I would consider it :)!!!!!!!
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WBraun
climber
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Yeah whitemeat is tough not like all you old farts drooling on Supertopo forum saying nothing all day .....
:-)
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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If you don't take the pills till you feel it, they won't take effect until it's really bad.. But hey.. Some people like to learn the hard way.... ( I know I do...) lol
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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The pain didn't hit me for a day or so then was bad for a couple days. If you need to pop those pills. It was the only time I've taken anything other than over the counter pain relievers.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Go the Meat!
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2014 - 10:54am PT
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marlow,
That was the funniest video I have ever seen!!
Thanks for sharing!!!
Other then a little ibu profin and some anti biotics to fight infection, no pain dudes! I guess I am the lucky one??
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Jul 10, 2014 - 04:08pm PT
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I guess I am the lucky one??
And why does that not surprise me??!! Except for the broken leg (maybe the exception that proves the rule?)
Rock it Mickey! Chomp Chomp
Susan
edit: I wanna know what the Tooth Fairy got you??
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jul 10, 2014 - 04:10pm PT
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glad you lived!
Now....
Yer.... gonna!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 10, 2014 - 04:25pm PT
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Whitemeat, the Bugs will soon be below your pay grade....think big!
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2014 - 05:24pm PT
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Alright Donini we will climb everest if you insist...
The tooth fairy got me, yogert, eggs, juice shakes, and a bottle of ibu profin!!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jul 10, 2014 - 07:47pm PT
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Everest is below Donini. He likes to CLIMB
I hope you get a chance to climb with him though...that would be a great TR
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 11, 2014 - 02:04pm PT
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day 3:
pain= bad... real bad!
throbbing with my heart beat :( f*#k this!!!
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Jul 11, 2014 - 02:08pm PT
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Harden the F&ck UP you Woose!
(Just kidding! Take some vitimin I and even though you're not old enough legally get some whiskey in ya!)
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jul 11, 2014 - 02:15pm PT
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At least you got a couple free days. I did not. Sorry bud... I have always told people that by far the worst surgery I've had was wisdom teeth
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Jul 11, 2014 - 02:39pm PT
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I woke up to a sweaty mason hammering and chiseling on my skull from inside my mouth with his knee on my chest. I suggest the deepest sleep that your insurance will pay for.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Jul 11, 2014 - 02:39pm PT
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What they said... If you can't get percs see if you can get a script for t3 from the dentist.. That freezing lasted awhile for you eh? :) swelling will suck for the next day or so. Cold drinks, smoothies, no straws! Cold stuff will help sooth the swelling.. Popsicle.. But don't go crazy sucking on it..
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Jul 11, 2014 - 02:51pm PT
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Oh sh*t. I am so sorry. Go big if you can (Percocet, Vicodin)...I don't think Ibu will help much. And sleep, if you can, sleep it off.
Good luck...it will eventually pass.
Susan
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John M
climber
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Jul 11, 2014 - 03:26pm PT
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get a script for the most powerful pain med you can get. Fill it..
Keep a few for your emergency kit.
you do have an emergency kit don't you? Next time you tweak your body you might be a lot further from help. Or it may be dark. Some strong pain meds just might get you through the night. Not all docs are kind enough to prescribe them for your emergency kit. So take advantage when you can.
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whitemeat
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2014 - 07:51am PT
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Alright. It is day 6...
I am still taking the stuff they gave me for pain and ibu profin...
When will this pain stop? I still feel like they arnt getting any better! Did anyone else have a long time to recover from this?
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Roxy
Trad climber
CA Central Coast
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Jul 14, 2014 - 08:00am PT
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When will this pain stop?
"pain is weakness leaving your body" -Wm. Burroughs
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jul 14, 2014 - 09:04am PT
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I am not going to take them pain pills until i feel pain... I know you guys think it is wrong but i guess we will see!!!
ok, you've done the experiment... against the advice of many, experienced voices here (who also did the experiment).
My dear old dad told me when I was young that I didn't actually have to experience everything, that somethings are best taken on the word of those that had...
...pain management policy has changed a lot (for the better) over the last couple of decades.
Sorry that you've figured out why, but now you're experienced, and can hopefully build on that if you ever have to go through it again.
And you can be one of the "voices of experience" in future posts... welcome to the world of hurt.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Jul 14, 2014 - 09:08am PT
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^^^^^^^ lol Ed!!
Some people just have to learn the hard way! Don't feel bad meat.. Done plenty of that myself too... But Ed's advice is great. Next time you run into something more serious, you'll know the deal...
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Jul 14, 2014 - 09:13am PT
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Call your oral surgeon for advice. Pain can also be the sign of an infection. Probably no, but it doesn't hurt to check.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Jul 14, 2014 - 10:28am PT
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Hope you feel better soon. Id say the pain lasted about a week for me. Plain old fillings- that pain lasted me many months.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Jul 14, 2014 - 11:23am PT
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Call me Whitey. Or facebook me. Sorry yer hurtin bro. We'll get you fixed up.
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Jul 14, 2014 - 11:27am PT
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See? We told you not to be worried about the anesthesia.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Jul 14, 2014 - 12:23pm PT
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Lol Phylp!!
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Jul 14, 2014 - 02:22pm PT
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I am not going to take them pain pills until i feel pain... ohhh whitemeat
sometimes your Elders DO know what they're talking about.
6 days. seems way too long to still be in big pain. Don't just hang in there.
Checkin with your dentist right away. And Do What He Says!
by the way, I too used to think pain was No Big Deal. "Tough it out wimp!"
Then I married a nurse. Only took me a couple of very painful procedures to start taking her advice to control pain before it starts. That approach really works.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 17, 2015 - 10:04pm PT
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Bump, for dental health.
This was last year too?D I Y plus chocolate covered cherries.
white meat? What is the story now a year later?
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