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Brandon-
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The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 25, 2014 - 09:46am PT
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...is going to England?
I just read of this. My interest in cycling is less than in years past. I've watched the tour in person, and grew up in a road racing family, but given all the recent and not so recent debate over drugs, I'm following it with halfhearted interest.
But England? Why the change? Are the Brits that cycle oriented?
Also, looking forward to the Tour of Colorado, I might have to make the trip out there to visit my dad in Westminster around that time.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jun 25, 2014 - 09:51am PT
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Le Tour was in the UK in 1994 as well.
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Brandon-
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The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2014 - 09:56am PT
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I had no idea.
No hate for England here, I was just surprised. I guess, upon further thought, that I shouldn't be surprised. Le Tour heads into Espana on a regular basis.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 25, 2014 - 10:04am PT
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Skinny dopers on bikes followed by their "doctors" and "trainers"?
Nope.
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Andy Fielding
Trad climber
UK
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Jun 25, 2014 - 10:15am PT
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Are the Brits that cycle oriented?
Tour de France 2012 winner, Bradley Wiggins, UK
Tour de France 2013 winner, Chris Froome, UK
If you look at the last two Olympic Games there have been quite a few golds for Team GB both for men and women so yes cycling is pretty big in the UK right now.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2014 - 10:25am PT
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For sure Andy, Brits are doing well in the tour lately. I'm wondering if the general populace is as stoked on it as the fans are.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 25, 2014 - 11:02am PT
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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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Jun 25, 2014 - 11:18am PT
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I think the Brits will turn out in large numbers to watch this, if the weather cooperates. Also, it should see some good racing on narrow, winding and undulating roads.
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Nate D
climber
San Francisco
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Jun 25, 2014 - 11:26am PT
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Sobering graphic there.
History of TDF starts abroad before entering France for the bulk of the race, which has become a pretty regular thing:
1954 Amsterdam, Netherlands
1958 Brussels, Belgium
1965 Cologne, Germany
1973 Scheveningen, Netherlands
1975 Charleroi, Belgium
1978 Leiden, Netherlands
1980 Frankfurt, Germany
1982 Basel, Switzerland
1987 West Berlin, West Germany
1989 Luxembourg
1992 San Sebastián, Spain
1996 ‘s-Hertogenbosch, Netherlands
1998 Dublin, Republic of Ireland
2002 Luxembourg
2004 Liège, Belgium
2007 London, United Kingdom
2009 Monte Carlo, Monaco
2010 Rotterdam, Netherlands
2012 Liège, Belgium
2014 Leeds, United Kingdom
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Jun 25, 2014 - 11:57am PT
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It's just the first 3 stages. They do that regularly. Sometimes they have stages in Belgium, sometimes they go to Germany for a few. Fun stuff. Looking forward to watching it every night!
A side note - we'll be thinking of Pat (Can't Say) as we watch, a cyclist extraordinaire...
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lars johansen
Trad climber
West Marin, CA
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Jun 25, 2014 - 03:56pm PT
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Looking forward to this tour even though MOVISTAR has chosen not to race Nairo Quintana. After his convincing win in the Giro it looks like they are wisely pacing his career. I'm sure we'll see him in the Vuelta.
lars
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Jun 25, 2014 - 05:56pm PT
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10k? Better double that for a Tour ride ;)
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Jun 25, 2014 - 06:25pm PT
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+1 Dr F.
I love the Tour! Can't wait.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Jun 25, 2014 - 06:33pm PT
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It really is the Greatest athletic event of the year all broadcast on Live TV
I largely agree. And the doping doesn't bother me all that much, as everyone suffers, doped or not
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Jun 25, 2014 - 06:42pm PT
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I love the sport, and the Tour de France is the highlight of the Year Amen Dr. F. I love the Tour. One day I actually hope to see some of it in person.
I don't really get the animosity demonstrated toward doping in cycling when society has turned a collective blind eye to doping/cheating in other sports.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Jun 25, 2014 - 06:56pm PT
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http://www.letour.com/le-tour/2014/us/parcours-general.html
It is to bad they are flat stages in the UK.Still damn cool.
Would like to see them race near the Highlands,up north,make them suffer through some Scottish weather.
Edit;Dr.F,I will work on that.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jun 25, 2014 - 07:11pm PT
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More doped up egos in spandex than Smith Rock in the 80s!
Quite the false statement . . . most of today's top riders are quite humble and respectful. Ego will not get your body through the Tour . . . it is a gruelfest. You don't know what your yammering about fool.
Get the fuk outta this thread crankster . . . you don't know sh#t about this.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 25, 2014 - 08:07pm PT
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That's not my quote. I know more about the TDF than you. Been to it twice as spectator. Followed it when u were on a tricycle. Was Lance's biggest defender. No
more.
Have your fun, I'm not raining on your parade.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jun 25, 2014 - 08:34pm PT
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That's not my quote, idiot.
If you read carefully, I did not attribute the quote to you Mr. TDF . . . I was responding to your lame post in the following sentence.
Jeebus, I was not alluding to any hero worship . . . simply respecting the effort it takes to complete a Tour.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jun 25, 2014 - 08:41pm PT
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 25, 2014 - 08:44pm PT
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Dream on, Kalimon.
Lame is thinking that some of the TDF riders are not doping. Watch it for the scenery, the spectacle, the podium girls, whatever. But quit with the humble crap.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jun 26, 2014 - 12:34am PT
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just ride your bike and shut up.
leave the real riding to the pros.
your not even good enough to lick their jock strap so STFU.
there ain't one person on the taco who could stay with the weakest rider in the tour for more than three seconds, and that's a fact.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 26, 2014 - 05:30am PT
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Oh, geez, turns out TDF uber fans are a bit tempestuous. Guess they don't read books.
Don't get your spandex in a twist, girls, the race hasn't started yet.
I'll leave you to ooh and ahh over "the likes of Alberto Contador".
For the record I hope Wiggins is clean and wins. Pro cycling had become disgrace to those who didn't cheat and it needed a massive clean up, one that honors the achievements of the past.
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Jun 26, 2014 - 05:53am PT
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If that clean/doping graph keeps the trend going, then my interest may return before long. Starting at 1996, it missed one of the great clean riders, Indurain.
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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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Jun 26, 2014 - 07:33am PT
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Wiggins isn't racing this TDF. He doesn't fit into Team Sky's plan.
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Jun 26, 2014 - 09:24am PT
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Heh, heh.
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coolrockclimberguy69
climber
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Jun 26, 2014 - 10:42am PT
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Not to derail this thread but did anyone follow the Race Across America? Oceanside, CA to Annapolis, MD...Christoph Strasser beat his own record this year at 7 days, 15 hrs, 56 minutes. I think that's just over 400 miles per day!
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 26, 2014 - 03:22pm PT
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Indurain clean?
I had a poster of 'Big Mig' on my wall as a kid, but he was in no way clean.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 26, 2014 - 03:50pm PT
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Brandon, SAY IT AIN'T SO! (You know those Euros don't shower every day)
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Jun 26, 2014 - 06:06pm PT
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man, I miss the 1980s. Cyclists did blow and raced, often on steel bikes. Groupies were still slutty and eager to please even the last guy in the peloton. The golden age.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jun 26, 2014 - 06:29pm PT
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Good to hear from the good Dr. Sprock! Peace out brother.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jun 26, 2014 - 08:57pm PT
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crankster are you saying Froome is not clean?
Just curious, as I have no illusions about the performance enhancement that is prevalent in all professional athletics, especially sports. I am sure you know that Wiggins won the Tour of California this year, do you think he did it straight?
Cyclists have been "doping" since the early beginnings of the sport, that doesn't mean sh#t to me, I can still respect the effort.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Jun 26, 2014 - 09:05pm PT
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I'm not sure. Just a bit bummed out by it all. I watched Wiggins blow up Mt. Diablo recently on the ToC.
As a Lance defender I said the words "he's the most tested athlete in sports" 1000x. Wrong.
Let's just say I'm cautiously optimistic. They're all clean until caught, I suppose.
Of course they're great athletes. But how many TDF's would Lance have won without it? We watch and marvel that they seem superhuman. Wish it was just on talent alone. Again, I don't know, maybe the last 2 years have been clean.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jun 26, 2014 - 09:13pm PT
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Thanks, I really appreciate your insight.
I think one has to let it all go, use our self delusion and simply enjoy the spectacle, as you said.
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Blakey
Trad climber
Sierra Vista
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Jun 27, 2014 - 03:20am PT
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Back to the tour and it 'starting' in Yorkshire.
Yorkshire is a fantastic cycling venue with a rich cycling history.
In 1936 the One Year Endurance Record of 45383 miles was held by a Yorkshireman, Walter Greaves. Completed over 359 days as his bike was delivered late. All the more remarkable because Walter had but one arm!
Also check out this lady.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_Burton
Steve
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Jun 27, 2014 - 06:15am PT
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crankster are you saying Froome is not clean?
I'm going to claim Froome is suspect. After all the "clean" talk about renewal in the sport, Froome goes out and nearly matches Lance's best doped performance up Ventoux? If you smell smoke, chances are, there's some sort of fire somewhere.
As long as there's money in <anything>, there will be people cheating to try to get more of it. Same as it ever was.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, ... interesting share, from the non-bike-aspect of the race going through yorkshire, :)
my friend that lives in halifax, up in the moores... just called, 3-4 hours agao, and had this to share:
her lead-up first, was this:
have you heard about the tour de france?
and, remember, how are roads were suddenly getting fixed?
as it was--just before this, they had a 'sudden' fixing-up of roads that had needed repairs, but never seemed to done, way out in the 'rurals' etc...
well, she now understands of course why, she shared, along with this:
they needed the roads in repair, she said she found out, as:
all the cars from the 'watchers' would have be creating a huge mess, stuck out on the roads...
and now... a few spots along the road, for folks that own property close enough (one small local pub, for example) are now 'selling spots' for folks to sit...
however, for those that will park on these much better conditioned roads, they are informed that there will still be a HIKE up to view anything...
and the BURDEN part for the folks out on the moor, where she and her neighbors live is this:
they have been informed by LETTER that they may NOT drive out, with the use any roads--which are ALL CLOSED--under penalty of?? some kind of fine... until after sunday...
and that there is NO emergency ambulances, either, available, as, they went on stike... though they will have air-ambulance, available, she said...
THEY ARE ALLOWED though to walk down the long private drives, to get use any transport, set up, to take folks into town? (or just to see the best place to watch all this??) ...
feels so odd, she said, to be 'trapped, so to speak' on your property...
just thought it might be interesting to share this... not meaning anything bad about it all, as she was not... but it was all feeling
strange for them... kind of like the 'whole world' coming and going,
with the eyes on the race, and they as if 'hunkered down'
on their own, as the excitement builds just under their feet...
oh my...
least, they got their roads, around them there, fixed, ;))
:)
LIFE out on the moors, who'd ever think, so much commotion, :))
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I'm not a doctor, but it looks like Cavendish broke his collarbone.
It was his fault, too.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Yes, that was all Cav.
Where was Simon Gerrans supposed to go?
I hope they are both OK but will be surprised if Cav starts tomorrow.
I jumped up when Cancellara came out of nowhere, that was great(almost)!
....and Navardauskas, I didn't know he could sprint like that!
I too will miss Pat Nay's savvy input.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Cav takes a lot of chances and it caught up with him. BC pretty much ends a sprinters tour.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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No broken Cav collarbone, but there was clearly pain involved. Cav pushed Gerrans. Gerrans pushed back. The pushing is not good for the sport, but Cav is the pusher-world-champion. Cav got what he deserved...
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Afterward, via a team press release, Cav said he was “gutted” about the crash.
“It was my fault,” he added. “I’ll personally apologize to Simon Gerrans as soon as I get the chance. In reality, I tried to find a gap that wasn’t really there.
“I wanted to win today, I felt really strong and was in a great position to contest the sprint thanks to the unbelievable efforts of my team. Sorry to all the fans that came out to support — it was truly incredible.”
Read more at http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/07/news/hopes-hometown-win-yellow-jersey-come-crashing_334513#lLp2yi5rkvv8iU3y.99
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lars johansen
Trad climber
West Marin, CA
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Nice to see the always entertaining Peter Sagan #2. Look for him to win some sprints on this tour. Also one for the old guys, Jens Voigt in polka dots.
lars
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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What cocktails are on the menu this year?
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, brandon- ... here is a little share, that i shared on the other le tour de france, thread...
part of the at-home aspect from my friend and her neighbors, :)
the way life goes on, behind the scenes of so many busy functions, that
come ones way... :)
will see if she had anything interesting to report, too, afterwards...
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Jul 4, 2014 - 06:39pm PT
hey there say, ... interesting share, from the non-bike-aspect of the race going through yorkshire, :)
my friend that lives in halifax, up in the moores... just called, 3-4 hours agao, and had this to share:
her lead-up first, was this:
have you heard about the tour de france?
and, remember, how are roads were suddenly getting fixed?
as it was--just before this, they had a 'sudden' fixing-up of roads that had needed repairs, but never seemed to done, way out in the 'rurals' etc...
well, she now understands of course why, she shared, along with this:
they needed the roads in repair, she said she found out, as:
all the cars from the 'watchers' would have be creating a huge mess, stuck out on the roads...
and now... a few spots along the road, for folks that own property close enough (one small local pub, for example) are now 'selling spots' for folks to sit...
however, for those that will park on these much better conditioned roads, they are informed that there will still be a HIKE up to view anything...
and the BURDEN part for the folks out on the moor, where she and her neighbors live is this:
they have been informed by LETTER that they may NOT drive out, with the use any roads--which are ALL CLOSED--under penalty of?? some kind of fine... until after sunday...
and that there is NO emergency ambulances, either, available, as, they went on stike... though they will have air-ambulance, available, she said...
THEY ARE ALLOWED though to walk down the long private drives, to get use any transport, set up, to take folks into town? (or just to see the best place to watch all this??) ...
feels so odd, she said, to be 'trapped, so to speak' on your property...
just thought it might be interesting to share this... not meaning anything bad about it all, as she was not... but it was all feeling
strange for them... kind of like the 'whole world' coming and going,
with the eyes on the race, and they as if 'hunkered down'
on their own, as the excitement builds just under their feet...
oh my...
least, they got their roads, around them there, fixed, ;))
:)
LIFE out on the moors, who'd ever think, so much commotion, :))
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Glad to hear Cav is ok. He's cocky but damn he's good.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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12,000 ft of climbing
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Cav's out.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Wow, big time racing for the second stage. Final climb has over 20% grades.
Edit - I guess there is a 33%, I feel a little nauseated just thinking about it
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Cav's out. Dang. That crash was purdy gnarly.
Today was interesting...I choke on 10-12% grades for short distances. Amazing the grades they can handle.
Susan
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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York to Sheffield, What a cool brittish hilly stage.
Very Cool.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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I got up at 5 to chase down a bird and had to wait all day to watch the tour. Yes, it was hard to avoid Supertopo and Velonews.com for the big result but I was able to do it.
WOW, that was a GREAT stage. TJ chasing down Froome, Horner confirming his comeback by being up front, Talansky right there all day. ALL the GC guys there at the end but......
Kudos to Nibali!!! He's been getting shite all year and he just kept saying "there is more than one way to prep for the tour."
I kept thinking it was a perfect stage for Nibali or Rodriguez (with 32% at the end)and I was in shock when Peter(Sagan) was still there. What an amazing racer he is.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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.....and the crowds.....WTF!!!!!
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
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There's a guy over at M.I.T. who is building a bicycling robot that it is predicted will enter and win the Tour by 2025. Code name: Spear Legstrong.
It will use no drugs.
Phase One
Phase Two
Phase Three - Did I mention it will be a female? And quite lifelike. Even likeable.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Nibali timed it perfectly and hit it hard. The rest were just looking at each other wondering who was going to chase.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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None of them wanted to potentially help any of the others into a Yellow Jersey is my guess.
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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The 2014 tour is off to a grear start. Just watching Sagan mix it up with the GC guys today made it interesting... and allb the sprint stages should be getting crazy and cluster F-ed without Cavendish.
Word to the haters: If you actually look into it, Cycling doesn't have any more people using illegal enhancements than any other major sport, including US football, baseball and the Olympics. They just plan their testing better. The Olympics are way dirtier than any TDF start list.
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Alois
Trad climber
Idyllwild, California
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A bit late to this post, just wanted to tell you about the incredible crowds and enthusiasm that marked the first two stages in Yorkshire. My wife Penelope and I are visiting Bingley, Yorkshire and the Tour went about 4 miles from here on both day 1 and 2. Incredible crowds ( some say up to 3 million people lined up the route). No matter the recent past, these two stages were awesome and in terms of public participating, I never saw anything like it. Cheers to everyone home in California.
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Love the Tour! Go Contador and Peter Sagan!!!!
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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I can't believe I'm saying this but, "I miss Cav already!"
It was all Peter could do to stay on Kittel's wheel.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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There was something truly awesome about the pictures from the first
two stages. The country side was so wonderfully green and the huge
crowds cheeering on the riders. Maybe its just the learning curve of the people in charge of the cameras. Just wow!
And yah the riders are looking tough as usual.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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I have no problem admitting that I miss Cavindish. A huge blow to the race.
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Dolomite
climber
Anchorage
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I don't miss or not miss Cav, but I am happy that Phil and Paul (who I otherwise like a lot) don't have to gush on about him every other minute.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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I will say it again,Bicycle racing in Britian is cool.Great stage ,awesome cities and a good sprint .
Bob's your effin uncle.
You would have to do drugs to race like that.
Edit; And just for good measure ,How many folks here are doing drugs watching the riders doing drugs?......LOL
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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I wish I could do drugs.
They might calm me down a little while watching each stage!
....and yeah, great stuff again today, seeing Peter make his way back to the front at the end, and his great bike handling while on Kittel's wheel in the finale, RAD!
I hope Froome isn't banged up too much.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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OMG!
We know who isn't going to win the Tour this year!
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JerryA
Mountain climber
Sacramento,CA
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Best Roubaix in years !
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Defending champ out
Peace
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Epic certainly was't too strong to describe today. 98 miles in 3:18 in those conditions!
Are you kidding me? Hard men.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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3:18 is two minutes off my last Rosarito-Ensenada time. I felt like I really hauled ass that day.
But R-to-E is only half the distance of today's stage.
These guys did twice my best ass-hauling speed, over twice the distance!
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jul 10, 2014 - 12:11am PT
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oxygen uptake briggs and stratton 1/3 HP attached
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shady
Trad climber
hasbeen
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Jul 10, 2014 - 08:44am PT
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More rain, no lead-out trains, sprint chaos, Sagan in the mix once again. Grooovy!
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 10, 2014 - 02:17pm PT
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Sweet! Greipel (The Gorilla) gets one.
I am hoping other sprinters get their day as well. Kristoff, Sagan and Coquard all close, hopefully Renshaw or Van Poppel or others can get it right.
....and yesterday Nibali looked AWESOME on the cobbles!
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jul 10, 2014 - 02:20pm PT
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Kristoff deserves one... two second places till now...
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 10, 2014 - 02:25pm PT
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They were moving. A bunch of people lost time 'cause they went OTB at the end.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 10, 2014 - 04:39pm PT
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Every day so far has seen a really good race.
The cobblestones stage could have been called "A Wednesday In Hell".
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 10, 2014 - 09:28pm PT
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Oh, I forgot to say (yesterday)"great win for Lars Boom!"
It was a good day for a World Champ Cyclocross kinda' guy, awesome!
Yes, they were moving! 3:18 for 98, RAD!
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 11, 2014 - 03:08pm PT
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AArrrgghh!
Tejay goes down and loses time, crap.
Andrew goes down as well, he shouldn't have been that close to the front in a full gas sprint. Nibali was just far enough back to be safe.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 12, 2014 - 07:43pm PT
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This isn't going well!
Oh well, still The Greatest Show on Earth!
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 12, 2014 - 09:32pm PT
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Can't wait for the big mountains!
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 14, 2014 - 01:21pm PT
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Contador has crashed out
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 14, 2014 - 04:21pm PT
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I was hoping J. Rod would hang on for the stage win but it didn't happen. (edit) But, he did take the polka dot jersey lead, that is a good consolation and better if he can take it to Paris.
I will miss Contador. He would definitely have given Nibali a run for it in the mountains.
Others will step up to the plate.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jul 17, 2014 - 08:58am PT
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Finally Kristoff's day today... congrats...
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 17, 2014 - 10:34am PT
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Yep. Kudos.
Sagan second. He just can't seem to get there.
Great racing again today.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 17, 2014 - 10:54am PT
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Hard to tell, but they are leaving a lot of skin on the tarmac
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Medou74
Trad climber
France
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Jul 17, 2014 - 02:23pm PT
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Hi, tomorrow I'll see the TOUR, first alp stage CHAMROUSSE. You have Yosemite, I have le tour...
I'll post pics soon...
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 17, 2014 - 09:07pm PT
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Medou74,
Looking forward to the pics!
Tomorrow will be a big day.
Allez
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shady
Trad climber
hasbeen
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Jul 20, 2014 - 09:38pm PT
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Gotta love pro cycling.
How many times have we seen it. A guy like Jack is out in the wind and rain for 100 miles, only to lose in the last 10 meters. Argh!
Sagan: It would be interesting to know if Peter has set a record for top 5 finishes in a single tour.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Jul 20, 2014 - 09:51pm PT
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Great finish. I feel sorry for that Dood. What a heartbreaker.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 20, 2014 - 09:52pm PT
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If they just would have put their heads down and buried themselves one of them would have won. A slight misjudgement and you are toast. I can understand why he was crying at the end.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Jul 20, 2014 - 10:58pm PT
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For you die hard TdF fans, on Tuesday(7/22) at 5pm PDT, ESPN's '30 for 30' program will feature a 1.5 hour documentary, Slaying the Badger, which chronicles the 1986 Tour de France battle between Bernard Hinault and Greg LeMond. Lots of interviews and archival footage make this a must see. Please check your local listings so you don't miss it!
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Jul 22, 2014 - 04:29pm PT
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 22, 2014 - 04:32pm PT
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Bhilden,
Just read the book. The movie should be interesting.
TJ took a beating today. Hopefully he can get going tomorrow. Another tough day.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Jul 22, 2014 - 07:35pm PT
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^^^^^^^
StahlBro,
even though the publisher sent me the book, I don't need to read it. I was part of it. I lived and trained with Andy Hampsten in Switzerland prior to the 1986 Tour de France and was with the team at the Tour de Suisse(which Andy won!).
ps- every time I see Bernard Hinault at the Tour he asks me how Andy is doing.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 22, 2014 - 07:41pm PT
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That's really cool. I thought Andy's interviews in the film were some of the best parts. Hinault seems like a real character.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 22, 2014 - 07:59pm PT
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What a great day of racing! So happy to see Rogers so happy! A well deserved win.
How epic will tomorrow be? Nibali looks in total control but it could still be fun, n'est ce pas?
Bruce, is Roll full of it or can Tejay take 3 minutes out of Valverde in the TT?
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 22, 2014 - 08:02pm PT
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Possibly the best win so far this year!
Voeckler going for it.
Mick Rogers in his 10th Tour! That dude is on fire, 2 at the Giro now his first Tour win after 10 years.
SWEET!
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 22, 2014 - 08:03pm PT
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TJ can still make a podium or better.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Jul 22, 2014 - 10:24pm PT
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Reilly,
you know, Bob Roll and I rode together on Specialized's first ever sponsored road team. Each year we do a bunch of fundraisers together for various cycling causes.
Yeah, three minutes is a a lot to take back in a 54km time trial. My guess is that it's more in the 1.5-2 minute range, but it is not out of the realm of possibility especially if the Frenchies get a bit anxious and don't pace themselves properly. Peraud is the biggest threat.
What I think everybody missed about what happened to Tejay is that he really is a diesel when it comes to climbing. You heard in the post race interviews from both Chris Horner and Tejay that Movistar totally lit it up at the start of the climb which means big wattage. And, the first 3-4 kms of the Port de Bales are the hardest clocking in at 9-11% with some short, steeper pitches.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Jul 22, 2014 - 10:32pm PT
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StahlBro,
Yup! Good comments from Andy. He really was in the deep end in his first Tour de France in 1986. OK, here's a story from the 198 Tour that didn't make the film...
Early on in the race, Andy's teammate, Jean-Francois Bernard, was in the lead for the best young rider(white) jersey. In order to motivate J-F(AKA Jeff)Bernard to keep the jersey, the team owner, Bernard Tapie, told him that if Jeff had the jersey in Paris Tapie would give him his Porsche Carerra. Well, Andy ended up with the jersey, but Tapie didn't give him the car.
The interview with Andy was filmed at Z Martino Hotel and restaurant in Castagnetto Carducci, Tuscany, just down the road from where the Tirenno-Adriatico has started the past few years. The owner(who died several years ago) rode the Tour and Giro as a domestique for Charly Gaul in the late 50's.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Jul 22, 2014 - 10:36pm PT
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OK. Here's one more story. One year I was covering the Tour and was sitting in the lobby of the hotel writing an article. Hinault comes over and sits down next to me and we chat for a bit and then I go back to work on my article. I am just about done, but for the life of me I can't remember who won the stage last time the Tour came to town. Then it dawns on my that Hinault is sitting right there and he has been arranging the finishing podiums for years. I ask him and in a millisecond I have my answer.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 23, 2014 - 09:09am PT
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bhilden, love the anecdotes!
Also loved the winks from Majka!
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jul 23, 2014 - 09:58am PT
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Congrats to Rafal Majka and Poland!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 23, 2014 - 10:09am PT
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Winky Majka! And how 'weird' that the only two stage wins by a Polak
were on the same sommet. It's a conspiracy I tell you!
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Jul 23, 2014 - 10:52am PT
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Great interview with Oleg Tinkov in the post race show. In 2006 I was announcing the Sausalito Criterium and the promoter kept telling me about this 38-yar old former Russian Junior National Road Racing Champion who was in the Masters field. The promoter wanted me to interview him on the air. This went on and on and finally the guy shows up and I do a quick interview as the rider didn't really do anything in the race.
To make a long story short, a year later Oleg Tinkov had his own pro cycling team.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 23, 2014 - 10:57am PT
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It was a good interview. The guy seems quite genuine although I am always
suspicious of how Russians come by their wealth. Wiki implies he did it on
his own but that doesn't really dispel my doubts. But I'll give him the
benefit of the doubt based on his enthusiasm for cycling and the fact that
the guy looks like he could still compete! Hard to see how he could improve
his team next year other than keeping Contador in one piece, eh?
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Jul 23, 2014 - 01:50pm PT
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What everyone in the program was alluding to was that Peter Sagan has signed a three-year deal to ride for Tinkoff-Saxo next year. Also, Garmin will be switching to riding Cannondale bikes for 2015. These two bits of information spell the end of the Cannondale Factory Team.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Jul 23, 2014 - 02:23pm PT
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Speaking of Cannondale, Ted King showed up one morning last November to do the Chicken Ride - an extremely fast-paced training ride / race we do every Friday at 7:15am sharp. Here he is posing with the Chicken:
Needless to say, he sat up during the hectic sprint-finish at the end. ;-)
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 24, 2014 - 07:58pm PT
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This gal had a hell of a race.
Taking a selfie, she has her phone knocked out of her hand by a Yellow Jersey forearm check, then the cop following behind on a motorcycle reaches over and smacks her one.
I love this race!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 24, 2014 - 09:34pm PT
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The cop shoulda tooled her. I hope her phone is toast.
Another great stage. Nibali is legit! Kinda felt bad for Valverde.
Chris Horner's interview at the end was great. Man, 42 and rockin' the Casbah!
I gotta say Tejay's interview shows a young man of great character and lucidity.
Dare I say his future lies before him?
Might have to get up early Saturday for the TT.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jul 24, 2014 - 10:14pm PT
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that chicken is wearing a LaVie Claire jersey,
got this one at the Le Mond training camp, worn by Guido Winterberg who you all know as the climbing champ in the Tour of Switzerland, right?
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Jul 24, 2014 - 10:31pm PT
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Dr, Spock,
the jersey you have was made especially for the La Vie Claire/Celestial Seasonings team for the 1986 Coors Classic. I have Kim Eriksen's jersey from the same team lying around in a box somewhere. BTW, Hinault won the race that year, the last win of his career as he retired, as promised six years before, on his 32nd birthday.
I used to have Andy Hampsten's last known remaining maglia rosa from his 1988 Giro win, but the Smithsonian came calling a couple of years ago and it is now on display in Washington.
Guido Winterberg was a fun guy. Being Swiss he went crazy during the Tour de Suisse getting into suicidal breakaways at stage starts.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 25, 2014 - 07:28pm PT
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That was the single best stage win in the Tour this year.
Navardauskas held off the charging peloton for how long?
That was crazy. Nobody saw that coming.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes.
I had no idea this stage would be so unpredictable.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 25, 2014 - 10:18pm PT
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Thought it might be a replay of the Jack Bauer catch, but he brought it home!
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shady
Trad climber
hasbeen
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Jul 25, 2014 - 10:57pm PT
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Garmin finally got a win. HOORAH!
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 26, 2014 - 09:05am PT
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Great ride by TJ! Too bad he had that bad day in the mountains, but congratulations none the less.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 26, 2014 - 09:18am PT
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I had Bob Rolls 7-eleven bibbed shorts and hat...Laundered of course...rj
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 26, 2014 - 09:26am PT
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Yes, Tejay slipped by Bardet by a couple seconds.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Jul 26, 2014 - 01:26pm PT
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Tejay stepped up and executed in the TT today. Nice work on his part to max out effort one last time and move up to top five. Hope he has a nice relaxing day on the way into Paris tomorrow!!
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Jul 26, 2014 - 04:14pm PT
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totally wanna see "Badger"
if the suits don't allow that to be posted on youTube then I'm officially on record saying America sucks
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Fletcher
Gym climber
A very quiet place
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Jul 26, 2014 - 04:55pm PT
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Kids and general busy-ness have kept me from the TdF these past two years (being out of the country the first half of this month also contributed). So these past few days, I've been at my son's swim meet here in Riverside, CA. We're back at the room chilling this afternoon and I flip on the TV to watch something while eating lunch from a great Middle Eastern restaurant (Elias Pita).
OK... here is some old footage of the TdF... that's the ticket! Ends up it was Slaying the Badger. I caught most of it and it's very engaging, interesting, and moving. That was the sole reason I came to the thread this year, but I decide to skim through the earlier posts. And saw that Bruce recommended it a few pages back.
I think it really opens a window into the deep human complexity that is engrained in this race.
Check it out!
Eric
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go-B
climber
Cling to what is good!
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Jul 26, 2014 - 08:55pm PT
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Bring back Lance I forgive him!
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scaredycat
Trad climber
Berkeley,CA
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Jul 26, 2014 - 09:48pm PT
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bhilden's point at the top of the page seems under appreciated to me.
What everyone in the program was alluding to was that Peter Sagan has signed a three-year deal to ride for Tinkoff-Saxo next year. Also, Garmin will be switching to riding Cannondale bikes for 2015. These two bits of information spell the end of the Cannondale Factory Team.
Sagan -> Tinkoff. I never saw Tinkoff-Saxo and Astana becoming the dominant teams in cycling. Sky is history. I guess it's up to Garmin and the nouveau French to fight the Hegemony!
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 27, 2014 - 05:03pm PT
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Sky isn't history.
...and so it's over, just like that.
To those who say this wasn't one of the most exciting tours of our lifetimes "SHUT UP (legs)!" you don't know what you are talking about. A buncha' Johnny come latelys.
The French performance, the Navardauskas win, Tejay, Majka, Lars Boom, Kristof, Gallopin, Vincenzo, Tony Martin, Bauer, Kittel, Li Cheng, the British fans, insane.....WOW.
I can't wait till next year.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jul 27, 2014 - 05:52pm PT
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Post Tour depression . . . anyone feel it?
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 27, 2014 - 06:02pm PT
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Post Tour depression.....ouch.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 27, 2014 - 06:05pm PT
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Post Tour depression on top of World Cup post partum depression = MORE BEER!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 27, 2014 - 06:08pm PT
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Love the Italian national anthem...Just when you think it's over it goes for round 2...brew me...
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 27, 2014 - 07:43pm PT
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Hey, one thing I noticed during the podium presentations.....Pinot was never gracious to Nibali. Pinot avoided any handshakes etc. Nibali tried but...I wonder what was going on there.
Nibali was completely gracious and giving to the other jersey guys.
Pinot was the only guy able to keep up on Nibali's mountain wins but not able to win. WTF?
Time will tell.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 27, 2014 - 07:49pm PT
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Pinot's a poor sport...? Why else wouldn't he shake..?
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jul 27, 2014 - 07:57pm PT
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The competitive future of the Tour is great . . . perhaps this year's chaos has ushered in a new era. Too bad we did not get to see Nibali battle Contador and Froome in the mountains, but then again, maybe he was stronger than them regardless. We will never know . . . fate determines the result. Nibali showed no weakness, even in the ITT. Pinot has a long road ahead.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Jul 27, 2014 - 08:01pm PT
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Woo hoo. Great race. Can't wait until next year.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 27, 2014 - 09:16pm PT
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Why else wouldn't he shake..?
Um, he's French?
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Jul 27, 2014 - 09:33pm PT
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Wow I'm stoked, going to go RIDE my Bianchi tomorrow
Susan
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Darwin
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jul 27, 2014 - 09:45pm PT
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Like what Susan said. ^ After the WC and Tour, it's time I start getting my own exercise.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 27, 2014 - 09:49pm PT
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Gran Fondo!
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Jul 28, 2014 - 08:20am PT
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Nice jersey Rob!
Must ride today!
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Jul 28, 2014 - 09:06am PT
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Definitely have post Tour depression!
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Mike Friedrichs
Sport climber
City of Salt
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Jul 28, 2014 - 09:14am PT
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The Tour of Utah starts in a week. Seven stages with some serious climbing. TJ, Talansky and many of the best American riders will likely participate.
Tejay van Garderen is a great rider, but in my mind he was the most boring of all the riders interviewed after the stages. Please, please, please interview somebody else.
So long Jens Voigt. Always a favorite of mine.
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lars johansen
Trad climber
West Marin, CA
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Jul 28, 2014 - 10:41am PT
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Jens for sure Mike.
Just got back from a morning ride before it gets too hot. Sure cure for whatever ails ya'.
Bring on La Vuelta!
lars
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Jul 28, 2014 - 11:12am PT
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Definitely have post Tour depression!
I actually lost a few pounds during the Tour. I'm gonna watch more sports TV! That's the ticket!
Susan
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Jul 30, 2014 - 11:20pm PT
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Hopefully, this helps a bit with PDT(post Tour depression). I shot it at the Cannondale team camp last year. Peter was very accommodating!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 30, 2014 - 11:39pm PT
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I like Sagan. He's having fun.
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