Chalk bag sling with NO knot

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Ken

Trad climber
Arroyo Grande
Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 22, 2014 - 08:49pm PT
See pic on next post. 2 prototypes. Right is Velcro that gets covered with round slide tube. Left is flex tube that you slip on. Both working so far.

Circumference is fixed length on both.

If I need to explain why this is beneficial you would not understand.
Ken

Trad climber
Arroyo Grande
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 22, 2014 - 08:52pm PT
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Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Jun 22, 2014 - 09:13pm PT
(borrowed photo)
cuvvy

Sport climber
arkansas
Jun 23, 2014 - 02:01pm PT
Trying Knots Is Fairly Straightforward. Snapping A Buckle Is Easy As Well
scuffy b

climber
heading slowly NNW
Jun 23, 2014 - 03:12pm PT
It really bothers me when I don't know I have a problem.
The Call Of K2 Lou

Mountain climber
North Shore, BC
Jun 23, 2014 - 04:24pm PT
Circumference is fixed length on both.

My circumference, however is not fixed (Christmas/holiday cooking, am I right?)
Magic Ed

Trad climber
Nuevo Leon, Mexico
Jun 23, 2014 - 04:29pm PT
I prefer a chalk bag belt that can double as a full-strength runner.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jun 23, 2014 - 04:36pm PT
I have 5mm cord tied with a bowlinebut not enough tails left over fora proper back up. I am considering switching to webbing with water knott so that in a dire emergency i could clip in and be full strength and sort of comfortable. %mm cord is Not comfortable and a bit sketchy with bowline and short tails.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jun 23, 2014 - 04:44pm PT
Great idea until a noob uses it as a sling. If you are going to make it look like gear it damn well better perform like gear. Did I have to explain that to you?
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Jun 23, 2014 - 04:47pm PT
+1 for magic Ed's post.
Arti

Trad climber
Vancouver, BC
Jun 23, 2014 - 04:49pm PT
I use 16 mm tubular webbing which is rated and some cheap buckles that came with my chalk bag. Buckle are secured to the webbing by friction since it's a bit thicker then what the buckles came with and I have a rubber band doubled over for good measure. This gives me an adjustable waist strap, rated webbing in case I need it and it's not bulky/quick to adjust. Simple solution for a simple problem.

http://www.mec.ca/product/5007-291/beal-16mm-tubular-webbing
http://www.mec.ca/product/5033-760/mec-chalk-bag
Ken

Trad climber
Arroyo Grande
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 23, 2014 - 09:23pm PT
I slide my chalk bag to the front or sides when chimneying, certain corners, very steep etc. both to dip a hand easier and to not have the bag interfere with back or side friction moves.

The problem addressed here is to allow the bag to easily slide across the front of my body past where either my knot or buckle-tails used to be.

I can't believe you don't see the huge advantage to this simple innovation. Buckles have webbing tails to stop bag sliding.

I do understand the issue of safety as the bag holder will not be very strong as is, but could be knotted to full strength if needed.
7SacredPools

Trad climber
Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Jun 23, 2014 - 09:40pm PT
I use webbing and buckles to hold my chalkbag, and have no problem spinning it around to wherever I want it.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jun 23, 2014 - 09:42pm PT
I thought I saw the advantages but now that you've explained it I don't understand.
i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Jun 23, 2014 - 10:54pm PT
chalk is aid...
Salamanizer

Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
Jun 23, 2014 - 11:01pm PT
I swing my chalk bag around all the time. Never had a problem moving the knot to one side a bit. It does take an extra half second though.

Worth spending actual money on for that half second instead of using some scrap webbing or cord.

No!
perswig

climber
Jun 24, 2014 - 06:10am PT
This thread is hysterical.

Esp scuffy b and the Fet. And Jon Beck makes the best point of all - please don't make it look like something it isn't, 'cause someone will screw it up, somewhere.

I do understand the issue of safety as the bag holder will not be very strong as is, but could be knotted to full strength if needed.
If that's Dyneema on the right, be a mistake to try to knot it "if needed".

What do I know? I don't even use chalk.
Dale
jonnyrig

climber
Jun 24, 2014 - 09:08am PT
Wouldn't it be easier to just stitch some bungee on it?
For the soft catch. If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand.
Jay Wood

Trad climber
Land of God-less fools
Jun 24, 2014 - 09:48am PT
While I use 1" webbing which can be (& has been) used for bail anchor,

a 'break-away' belt would have safety benefit, especially compared to tied thin cord. If it catches on something during a fall, it could really f*** you up.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Jun 24, 2014 - 11:04am PT
When I move my bag the sling just spins with it so I don't understand the problem.

Not being able to adjust the size seems like a bummer.
Stimbo

Trad climber
Crowley Lake
Jun 24, 2014 - 02:33pm PT
I can't believe you don't see the huge advantage to this simple innovation.

I can't believe I just read this post....
Banquo

climber
Amerricka
Jun 24, 2014 - 02:57pm PT
I haven't carried a chalk bag since the 90's
murcy

Gym climber
sanfrancisco
Jun 24, 2014 - 03:06pm PT
When I move my bag the sling just spins with it so I don't understand the problem.

And if you're really concerned about the buckle or knot catching on something, put it between the sling loops on the bag instead of in front of you.

The matter obviously calls for extensive laboratory testing, and while you're at it I would also suggest experimenting with lubricants to further speed bag-travel, and to consider whether it's worth the weight to employ a tiny "tram" arrangement of wheels tracking on a semi-rigid rail projecting from the harness belt.
Daphne

Trad climber
Northern California
Jun 24, 2014 - 04:15pm PT
This thread is good for one laugh after another. Bene bene
Texplorer

Trad climber
Sacramento
Jun 24, 2014 - 04:20pm PT
If I have to explain, you're gonna die
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