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August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Jan 15, 2019 - 10:55am PT
Having the state take over will be a disaster. The state already showed its incompetence in
its oversight. If adequate oversight was possible (yes, an oxymoron) then something more
reasonable could be contrived. But we’re talking about a state that is spending $100 BILLION
on a train that nobody will ride.

And how about PG&E giving its lame ass CEO Geisha (😳) Williams a $4.5 million
golden parachute for quitting yesterday? You can’t make this sh!t up!

So besides getting some popcorn and enjoying the show, CA should do what?

Turn into a completely unregulated company? Lawsuits would still bankrupt it.
Give it immunity from fire related lawsuits and just live with tens or hundreds of billions of dollar fires each year?

Pass a law saying the CEO can't get a multi-million dollar bonus?

I known, make snide comments on SuperTopo. That'll show em.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jan 15, 2019 - 11:36am PT
Pass a law saying the CEO can't get a multi-million dollar bonus?

That would be a very good start especially if said corp is a ‘public’ utility.
formerclimber

Boulder climber
CA
Jan 30, 2019 - 10:19am PT
Camp Fire cause is still undetermined, not sure why there's so much blaming of PG&E is going on.
Tubbs Fire (Santa Rosa) had not been caused by PG&E, by the way, but by a homeowner -- as had been determined few days ago. Facts should be obtained first, before blaming PG&E (as to Paradise: anything, like dry lighting strike, homeless campfire, railroad spark, negligent homeowner would have easily caused it all to burn down...have you seen that environment, right around town, before the fire? It was obvious that it was not "if" but "when" question. Most insurers had left the town way before the fire).
The idea of burying the power lines...why should PG&E bury them, if federal, State regulations are all OK with not burying them and tax and rate payers (who'd have to pitch in, with enormous costs involved) would never agree to high costs of implementing this?
As to deaths in this fire: the real blame is in on the City of Paradise and Butte County, I think. They issued numerous construction permits over years in a very high risk area, while it was clear that there're no adequate evacuation routes for that population. They had chosen not to install a siren. Of course, Butte County isn't such a lucrative suing subject as the power company...all they got to their name is probably the meth labs.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Jan 30, 2019 - 11:13am PT
Camp Fire cause is still undetermined, not sure why there's so much blaming of PG&E is going on.

Sure, people are quick to point fingers. But PG&E is so confident of their innocence that they decided to preemptively declare bankruptcy in order to reduce their payout for fire related damages.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 5, 2019 - 12:46pm PT
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/state/california/article226887989.html

California wildfires in 2018 killed more than 100 people, destroyed more than 22,000 buildings and burned over 1.8 million acres of land, making it the worst fire year on record, trailed closely by 2017.

“This coming year has all the indications of being just as possibly catastrophic as last year and the year before,” Cal Fire Director Thom Porter told a Senate committee in January.

Of further interest:
Inmates help battle California’s wildfires. But when freed, most can’t get firefighting jobs.
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/state/california/article217422815.html
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Mar 5, 2019 - 06:55pm PT
Just because you like to watch sh#t burn doesn’t mean you’re a bad person Dingus .
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 5, 2019 - 09:04pm PT
He got the heinous 3 hots and a cot.* Out in 15, if that. Oh, the horror!

*with cable, of course. It would be cruel and inhumane otherwise, right?
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