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John M
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When you participate in an internet forum you are having a relationship with members of your community.
HFCS doesn't want to be part of anything. He just likes to argue. He will not answer your personal questions. He won't even explain why he won't answer. This is a game to him where he likes to feel superior.
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John M
climber
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Nice try HFCS I didn't stop talking to you because you were winning any arguments. I stopped talking to you because you are mostly heartless and I just don't have the energy or the time to deal with people like you anymore.
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Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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The answer to the debate is probably simply that the soft-core ads in the margin which depend upon horny, impolitic, and often misogynist old men to place here and generate so much click-through revenue are worth more to the bottom line of this site than guidebooks.
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
Nevada City
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Jun 10, 2014 - 07:31am PT
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locker, you are probably the least serious person on this entire forum. i LOL at a lot of your posts because you make it quite clear, to me.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 10, 2014 - 07:35am PT
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wait til u see the "mind" thread
The most incomprehensible thread on ST EVER!
At least the ladies have shown up in force for this thread, good stuff.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Jun 10, 2014 - 08:26am PT
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PTC aka Part-Time Communist remains alive, but not quite well. She is in the hospital in Mammoth today having her busted knee fixed. She tore her ACL skiing two months ago, and they are going to fix it with a cadaver graft. Hopefully taken from another cute blonde... ;)
In the meantime, she sends her love to all the hot older guys at McTopo.
Here's to a speedy recovery for Daria, so that she can continue making solo first descents of canyons in the Inyos and Death Valley.
P.S. Sorry for the too-wide image making this post hard to read. If someone wants to resize to 700 pixels wide, upload and send me the link, I will edit. Having computer problems again. Think I once again cooked the motherboard by leaving my Dell laptop sitting on a couch so the cooling fans got blocked. Sheesh. Time for a new machine I reckon....
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matisse
climber
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Jun 10, 2014 - 09:21am PT
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HFCS,
you pass yourself off as a science type...so trot out your credentials buddy boy....
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Jun 10, 2014 - 09:48am PT
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Hey timid
God bless brother.
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matisse
climber
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Jun 10, 2014 - 10:18am PT
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On further reflection: as I might privately enjoy negative comments directed towards some posters, this debate is really about civility. Some of the woman have expressed a lack of civility towards then that keeps them from posting more, but it applies equally to both genders. So calling some male posters dicks isn't really any better, than the lack of civility towards women.
HFCS let me explain why I keep pressing you on your science qualifications. You called ST posters scientifically illiterate. For you I want to know professional or amateur. and what field.
Why? because I am never going spend a lot of time debating Ed H, for example, on certain aspects of physics. It would be a complete waste of my time. I'm a scientist but that doesn't give me expertise except in the few fields I know something about. So if you are a pro in human behavior gene environment interactions just say so. If not, and you have researched the topic extensively (not that hard these days with so much scientific content widely available) all you have to do is cite sources on which you are basing your information. and now i'll shut up about it.
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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Jun 10, 2014 - 10:59am PT
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What I'd really like to know is who told you that I named IT, Major???...
It's supposed to be a secret..
baaaahahahaaaaaa VP tolded me!
And I defend my right to call locker a dick. I know he's not at all serious and how he would take it. I have other, much less pleasant things to say about anyone who suggests that a woman needs to be date raped. I may not care much for ptc's persona here but nobody deserves that.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Jun 10, 2014 - 11:30am PT
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Melissa said
soft-core ads in the margin which depend upon horny, impolitic, and often misogynist old men to place here and generate so much click-through revenue are worth more to the bottom line of this site than guidebooks.
That's a very interesting observation. Presumably the algorithms that automatically compute which ads you see know she is female. (no, there' is no OZ behind the curtain, just humoungus computers running very clever pattern detection algorithms)
I get very few (if any) soft-core ads. Admittedly I seldom look at any of the margin ads. I've built a pretty good visual filter.
Have the algorithms figured out that in spite of being a "red blooded" Americun Male I don't get drawn by soft core ads?
Right now Bosch wants me to buy their drill bits.
I was always curious why PTC sent so many men here off kilter. Did she peel away their veneer of respectability? Did her out front attitude intimidate them?
Sure she was outre. Good on her.
Or did the women here find her offensive?
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Jun 10, 2014 - 12:14pm PT
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I'd like to hear the women's take on the whole PTC thing rather than a man's assumptions.
Seriously, ladies.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Jun 10, 2014 - 12:15pm PT
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Daria is the top troll
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 10, 2014 - 01:08pm PT
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The odds are good, but the goods are odd.
Bring on PTC! Nobody loves us old dudes the same, HA!
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Jun 10, 2014 - 01:47pm PT
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Too bad Pete didn't post that pic when PTC was around.
She'd have easily found climbing partners.
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Jun 10, 2014 - 04:42pm PT
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Happie.
Yep, very oldfashioned way of thinking. Some day they maybe will realise that humans are humans, notwithstanding gender. Maybe.
And as High Traverse said: it's so much more fun playing with equals.
High Fructose Corn Spirit, your first post about this said it all.
/one of the Spinsters
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Jun 10, 2014 - 04:59pm PT
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Equal in value but not identical in ability. For that matter, women have a higher value. That is why men go in trenches and mines and women get the first lifeboats.
I value women above men and that probably makes me sexist.
( hey HFCS and Locker, you guys are the noisy, angry know-it-alls shouting out digs and jabs but so obviously lonely, sad and insecure. School aged girls have been told "science and math are for boys, don't worry your pretty little head. You can go to college and get an MRS. Degree.) The inherent sexism in education leads to women not choosing math and science as a career. That's a sociological explanation. Your pseudo-scientific reasoning is just noise. ) Wisen up and loosen up. Your minds are trapped in some rigid and tedious ruts. It's not too late. You can do better.
Respect to the ladies here trying to edify the Silly Troll Gruffs. If I've disparaged you, I hope it was for your politics and not your gender. Peace out.
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Jun 10, 2014 - 05:09pm PT
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Equal in value but not identical in ability.
Yes.
You being a sexist or not, maybe it's the men who has to evaluate that one. It does go both ways. :-)
Maybe this thread shows one thing, if nothing else...
the women on the Taco are no pussies. Don't tell us what we have to, or not. :-)
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