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Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Jun 6, 2014 - 08:11pm PT
Hey thanks for thanking me for being brave enough to post on an internet forum as a female
The Hawk

climber
Jun 6, 2014 - 08:17pm PT
I've worn a skirt and fake breasts, and it was the worst.

I'm not really sure how that relates to all this.
jammer

climber
Jun 6, 2014 - 11:44pm PT
If you haven't spend time on social media lately you might spend some time with the #YesAllWomen hashtag. A response to "the not all men are like that" that surfaced after that entitled nutjob shot up UCSB, YesAllWomen is the idea that although not all men are crazed homicidal maniacs, ALL women can relate experiences of being blatantly harassed, or worse. much much worse. Men that pass harassment and misogyny and worse off as just boys will be boys even if they don't behave that way themselves perpetuate the problem.

I appreciate your reply and the perspective you put forth here. It is something us guys really do have a lot of trouble relating to. I just thought I would point out that I didn't read this posters comment as a "boys will be boys" mantra at all, but rather as a "men will always like women who show it off" statement. An equivalent in my eyes is every woman loves a tall, rich, successful, handsome guy. Nothing will ever change this.

I wanted to say this because like so many other guys here (who might even come across a little misogynistic at times), I want my soulful, strong, compassionate, phenomenal woman to show it off a little, and not be held down by any stereotypes that make her feel like she cant be herself and say what she feels. Please ladies, don't let the bad apples ruin it for you :).
locker

climber
STFU n00b!!!
Jun 7, 2014 - 06:47am PT



...

moosedrool

climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jun 7, 2014 - 06:53am PT
tall, rich, successful, handsome

me, me, me, and definitely me

Moosome
Lollie

Social climber
I'm Lolli.
Jun 9, 2014 - 05:07pm PT
Locker, why did you post that photo? It's just a bloody sneaky sexist way to once more post halfnaked bodies of women, while trying to seem irreproachable doing it. What in Daphne's post did you not understand?

There has been inexcusable posts, like to have the gall to comment upon a another member's body, for instance. Not my achievements, not who I am, but how I look like. Go to hell loser, is my answer to that.

A woman was banned who protested against women being seen as an objects. Not one man who treat women both in general and as fellow members as objects they have a right to comment upon, has been banned. There has been sexually insinuating comments regarding underage daughters of several members, including my own daughter, and nothing happens even to those members who makes them.

One the other hand, I have been thinking it's been better this time around. Maybe because it was so very bad a year ago. Maybe because I choose more carefully nowadays what I'm interested in reading. There's plenty of fun, kind, interesting and intelligent people whose posts are a joy to read. And I love the positive responses when other members are encouraged. The spreaders of joy, the caring fellow members are the reason to be here. The companionships and the stories. All worth while.

Cheers to you, you good Supertopians! I raise my glass in respect!


locker

climber
STFU n00b!!!
Jun 9, 2014 - 05:10pm PT


"Locker, why did you post that photo? It's just a bloody sneaky sexist way to once more post halfnaked bodies of women, while trying to seem irreproachable doing it. What in Daphne's post did you not understand?"...


I watched an interesting interview with the second lady from the left...

The interview was given by another woman...

Both of them talked about how PROUD they were that, that photo had been published and that it opens the door for other women to feel better about themselves...

This, from a WOMANS point of view...







locker

climber
STFU n00b!!!
Jun 9, 2014 - 05:25pm PT


"A woman was banned who protested against women being seen as an objects"...

LEB???...

locker

climber
STFU n00b!!!
Jun 9, 2014 - 05:45pm PT


No further comment Lollie???...

Do you now see that I did not post it for the reasons you sited???...




FAIL!!!...

matisse

climber
Jun 9, 2014 - 06:00pm PT
As others upthread pointed out, males and females are wired differently. Beta: deal with it.


Seems, too, a couple pussywhips have forgotten what it means to be male.
On the other hand, way to represent, Locker. :)

PS We're all objects. Objectification is such a bullshit term and concept, lay it to rest. Objects/animate and Objects/inanimate. Objects/male and Objects/female.

What are the lassies saying, females don't leverage guys as much? Please get real. Reciprocity is the basis of relationships. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Males are visual creatures, visually stimulated. That's the way we're wired. No apologies.

Women, too, have their gender-specific wiring. So it works both ways. Adapt.



Is this a climbing site or some old 19th century spinster site?

Wow. Well done! why women don't post here summarized in one post. congratulations high fructose.
scuffy b

climber
heading slowly NNW
Jun 9, 2014 - 06:47pm PT
I didn't think it was going to get worse, but not the first time I've been
surprised. Lack of awareness of entitlement, decency equals caving in,
being an as#@&%e is great, to be expected, you just gotta live with it, no,
wait, you're only imagining things anyway...
Thanks to Matisse, Lollie, Michelle, Daphne, Seamstress, Sullly.
When I read "on behalf of the men of this forum" or whatever the f*#k it was, it makes want to puke.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 9, 2014 - 07:03pm PT
Well, at least you can't fault some of the guys here for not taking a stupid tack on the issue.

For what it's worth, the women who post here regularly seem to be of an overall higher quality than people, say, like me.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Jun 9, 2014 - 07:29pm PT
Thanks to Matisse, Lollie, Michelle, Daphne, Seamstress, Sullly.

+1.

add ekat, lynne, nita and tami as frequent posters. lady s as an occasional.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 9, 2014 - 07:36pm PT
Thanks to matisse, Lollie, Michelle, Daphne, Seamstress, Sullly.
and SCSeagoat, Crimpie etc.
I've always appreciated your posts, climbing and not.

I grew up in a male dominated society, in the Dark Ages of Salt Lake City where in many Mormon families, the men had all the power. I'm familiar with men objectifying women, including myself when in my adolescence and young adulthood. Slowly, largely with my Father's excellent example (I can't remember him EVER referring to a part of a woman's anatomy) and moving to the Bay Area, I outgrew it.
My Father did appreciate attractive women, much as my Mother would comment on attractive men. That had little or nothing to do with their preferences for opposite sex friends.
Men's objectification of women has nothing to do with "men are sexually different" and everything to do with enculturation and power.

Why until very recently have there been no women priests/bishops/etc in christian religions? Why are there still none in the Roman Catholic church?
Why can't Mormon women attain the priesthood?
Why are there still so many male politicians opposed to a woman's reproductive choices?

Men should appreciate women as equal to men in all except one extraordinary and very difficult thing only women can do. Childbirth. I don't see how any man who's participated in it can ever again think less of a women.

one final thought: some women are bitches, some men are arseholes. I've worked with both. They are quite equally obnoxious.
locker

climber
STFU n00b!!!
Jun 9, 2014 - 07:49pm PT


"Men should appreciate women as equal to men in all except one extraordinary and very difficult thing only women can do. Childbirth"...



and in turn we should be seen and appreciated as equals for all but one special thing we can do as men...(edited: "extraordinary"... that too!!! ;-)











































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Lennox

climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
Jun 9, 2014 - 08:25pm PT
There's a lot of mansplaining on this thread.
matisse

climber
Jun 9, 2014 - 08:41pm PT
Perhaps a bit overly sensitive as well - perhaps like Matisse

sigh. let's review:
This thread started when someone posted essentially wondering why so few women posted on ST. This was follows by the inevitable pictures of hotties, and not so hotties, other assorted supertopo memes etc. A few women offered their opinion as to why they did or did not post.

to which your response was

Males are visual creatures, visually stimulated. That's the way we're wired. No apologies.

Women, too, have their gender-specific wiring. So it works both ways. Adapt.



Is this a climbing site or some old 19th century spinster site?

so you appeal to basic biology (i.e. boys will be boys) no apologies yet women have to adapt?

Then you insinuate that every woman who doesn't agree with your opinion is some sexually deprived or repressed or frustrated old woman. Even if they were, that would still be beside the point. The appeal to basic biology is a copout. since the basic biological success is living long enough and reproducing enough to pass your genes to the next generation, we transcend basic biology on multiple levels and in almost all aspects or our society. except, according to you, this one. Calling you on your bullshit does not make me overly sensitive, it just makes me calling you on your bullsh#t. is that so hard a concept?

Even my cat transcends basic biology when he learns to stay off the kitchen counters.

edited to add..hmm I wonder why the filters let me say sh#t the first time but not the second...
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Jun 9, 2014 - 08:43pm PT
Dude, locker. I don't get it man. Folks ask you to stop doing (whatever) and your response is usually confrontational and frequently disrespectful. Why is that? I'm just curious. I know from chatting with you that you're not really a major dick, so what gives?

Tami

Social climber
Canada
Jun 9, 2014 - 08:45pm PT
Calling you on your bullshit does not make me overly sensitive, it just makes me calling your on your bullsh#t. is that so hard a concept?

Even my cat transcends basic biology when he learns to stay off the kitchen counters.


Agree!!!




eKat

Trad climber
Jun 9, 2014 - 08:54pm PT
PS You write like a girl. If a girl, no offense. ;)

Well. . . I see the xx xy comment Matisse made upthread went over at least one broken chromosome's head, eh?
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