Craziness on Everest Southside Continues


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John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Jul 4, 2014 - 12:03pm PT
That looks like a pretty fancy one. But you see them on the walls of the Teahouses, showing the proprietor, saved up his coin from expeditions working sherpa and is now a hotel owner. The Chinese are bigger on it, with Cho Oyu and Everest being accessible from the Chinese side.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jul 4, 2014 - 01:09pm PT
So SOE is going to travel there by ship and ground transport exclusively?

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 25, 2014 - 10:16pm PT
This was entirely predictable

Everest avalanche victims still await relief


KATHMANDU: Yawning gap between pledges and delivery is becoming unbearable for the bereaved families of the Mt Everest avalanche victims.

Three months have already passed since its announcement but the government has not provided compensation of Rs 5 lakhs each to the 16 families of avalanche victims.

Six families of the mountaineering support staff and guides who were killed in the deadliest April 18 avalanche have not even received the insurance amount of Rs 1 million. They rue that they had only received Rs 40,000 as funeral expenses from the government.

“We have not received any communication from the government or the mountaineering authorities about the compensation or insurance amount,” Pasang Lhamu, who lost her husband Then Dorjee Sherpa, 34, told this daily.

Ngima Dorjee, brother of Phurba Ongyal, 25, of Khumjung, Solukhumbu, said the poverty-stricken family had been hard pressed to make ends meet after losing Phurba, the sole bread-winner of the family of four.

Families of Dorjee Khatri, Phur Temba Sherpa, Lakpa Tenjing Sherpa and Tshiring Ongchu Sherpa, who have also not received the insurance amount, said they had been enquiring with the trekking company daily for the insurance, but to no avail. They accused the trekking company of holding their insurance amount.

Bhim Poudel, Manager at Himalayan Guides Nepal Treks and Expeditions, who employed six of the deceased for Adventure Consultants Everest Expedition and Adventurist Everest Expedition, however, said the insurance issue would be resolved soon, maybe within a week.

Apathy of the authorities concerned has also put question mark over the implementation of some of the agreed plans, such as setting-up a memorial park in Kathmandu and providing a life insurance cover of Rs 1.5 million, a Rs 500,000 raise in the existing insurance amount for the guides.

On April 22, minister Bhim Acharya had announced an increment in insurance and made a commitment that certain amount of royalty collected from the expedition teams will go to mountaineering relief fund.

“No budget has been allocated for memorial park or under other heads for addressing the concerns of bereaved Sherpa community,” an official told THT.

Joint Secretary at the Ministry of Tourism and Civil Aviation Madhu Sudan Burlakoti, who leads the tourism industry division, also passed the buck to ministry of finance and planning and evaluation division of MoTCA.

“My department has forwarded the files to the ministry of finance and planning department for further action but they have not responded yet,” he told this daily.

Burlakoti claimed that the announcement to raise the insurance amount from next season did not materalise, as expedition operators had not responded positively to the proposal. “Procedural ambiguities could be the reason for delay in releasing compensation amount,” he said.

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Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2014 - 10:42am PT
The Nepalese government has finally released compensation money for the Nepalese families of the avalanche victims.

Meanwhile a new outrage has emerged as the Nepalese government has extended climbing permits for canceled expeditions for another five years. The problem is that they are doing it by group instead of individuals. If anyone member of a group summits Everest, then the permit extensions for all the others are automatically cancelled.

And to add final insult, because the Nepalese government recognized the ascent of Wang Jin even though she flew to Camp 2 in a helicopter, and because Cleo Weidlich also flew to Camp 2 in a helicopter although she did not summit, the permits of everyone else on their team have been cancelled.

And we think our officials are uncaring and irrational!
Slabby D

Trad climber
B'ham WA
Nov 24, 2014 - 11:33am PT
Maybe they were a little confused and had the outdated notions that these were actually teams of people, possibly even friends, with a sense of camaraderie, shared purpose and hell who knows even occasional bouts of self-sacrifice for the greater whole. Quaint for sure though I doubt the denizens of Supertopo will be offering much sympathy.

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2014 - 01:05pm PT
I certainly hope you're not recommending that whole teams of people helicopter to Camp 2 together?

John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Nov 24, 2014 - 01:31pm PT
I certainly hope you're not recommending that whole teams of people helicopter to Camp 2 together?

I wonder if that will become the new normal? Fact is, for non climbers, all they care is, did you summit or not.

A helicopter beyond the place where a percentage of aspirants get killed, would be no more than a mere detail. Like walking in from Lukla vs walking in from Jiri. yawn

For me though, the icefall would be an integral part of the experience. Would there be that split second of time to move when it cracks? I think the adrenaline would pretty much all be gone by the time I got through. Like swimming in a school of sharks. Many people, go through the icefall multiple times on a summit bid.

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Nov 24, 2014 - 02:10pm PT
Skipping part of the journey by helo isn't like chiseling holds or putting in too many bolts, as it does not alter the adventure for a future party who wants to do it differently. People should let her do as she pleases and mind their own business. It would be nice if we could turn back the clock, and everyone could do it as Hillary and Tenzing did, but we can't.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Nov 24, 2014 - 02:55pm PT
It will be interesting to see the percentage of people whose head assplodes when they go up two camps so quickly.
son of stan

Boulder climber
San Jose CA
Nov 24, 2014 - 03:52pm PT
Its called an ice-fall for good reason. Ice falls on people there.
Avoid it if you can.

Why should anyone care how other people climb hills?
Helicopter to the summit, snap a selfie, and fly down when
you can find one that will fly that high. I will not care.

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