rope/gear stolen: Pat and Jack Pinnacle


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Trad climber
Station Wagon, USA
Topic Author's Original Post - May 6, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
This is likely to get buried, but thought I'd post up a sad PSA of some stolen gear.

Last Saturday afternoon at P&J I had a rope yanked off my pack while my partner and I were up on Golden Needles. Brand new bright blue Edelweiss Oxygen II 8.2mm 60M. Obviously I don't expect to ever see it again, but if anyone happens to see it fixed on a wall or up for sale on Craigslist or the Camp 4 board... well, there's still nothing I could ask you to do.

The real bummer about the situation is that it hardens you a bit. You expect these kinds of things to happen in a city. We trust our fellow climbing/hiking/outdoor loving brethren and it's sad to have to spread the word to remind fellow climbers that we can't trust our things at the crags.

Aside from the rope, they yanked a grigri2, BD #2 and #4. They left the biners that had identifiable tape behind. The cams are additionally marked with pink nail polish at the top near the lobes.

Stay safe and keep an eye out for your things and for your fellow climbers' things. Cheers.

Credit: tahoe523

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
May 6, 2014 - 08:32pm PT
Sorry for your misfortune . . . some real scumbags out there.

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 6, 2014 - 08:45pm PT
Thieves suck....

Only a real dirtbag would do such a thing. Lame.

May 6, 2014 - 09:35pm PT
Suck fest.

Here's an idea. How about you go back with a new rope and three people. Two of you climb. The third hides in the woods with a camera. When he steals your gear take his picture. Post it here and take It to the LEO in the valley. Hell a game trail camera would do the trick.

Trad climber
Idylwild Ca
May 6, 2014 - 10:30pm PT
Some friends of mine, back around 1976 stole a rope from Holubar, a gear shop that no longer exists. Most of the climbers we new would not climb with them again sighting the bad Karma they would incur climbing on a stolen rope.
Those guys that stole the rope got fat soon after high school and never climbed again.

Social climber
Truckee, CA
May 6, 2014 - 10:53pm PT
I hate hearing about sh#t like this. Thieves do suck. Hope they get caught, and you recover your stuff.

Santa Cruz
May 6, 2014 - 10:53pm PT
Not cool. Hard to imagine that people who could enjoy climbing someplace as awesome, fun, and beautiful and Pat and Jack (or anywhere in Yosemite) could be such losers as to rip you off like that. So sorry to hear that.
frog (the real frog)

Trad climber
San Diego
May 6, 2014 - 11:00pm PT
I've had just enough wine - may the perps have a loooooong fall on a looooow angle face - and may the fleas of a thousand camels infest their armpits (and nether regions) ...

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
May 6, 2014 - 11:02pm PT
That bites. Sorry to hear it.

Even in places more than an hour from a road, I might as well have had thieves. On separate occasions had squirrels chew through a nice pack, and had crows smear yogurt and applesauce all over my work Blackberry phone and destroy it (back when that was an advanced piece of technology).

Maybe this will make me more paranoid, give up cragging style, and leave nothing behind! It either stays at home or goes up with me. Maybe a water stash can be an exception.

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
May 6, 2014 - 11:24pm PT
What a complete drag. You have my sympathy.

Mountain climber
May 6, 2014 - 11:37pm PT
hey tahoe523, good to see you on here. am super bummed though about your post - totally sucks getting gear ripped off! :(

I hope you had good skiing this winter, wherever you happened to be.

Gym climber
May 7, 2014 - 01:39am PT
Worst Shino TR ever!

Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
May 7, 2014 - 11:19am PT
g-damn euros

Social climber
Joshua Tree
May 7, 2014 - 11:36am PT
Sorry to hear it.

You climbing on an 8.2 as a single? Or is that a tag/rap line?

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
May 7, 2014 - 11:38am PT
Another reason not to climb in the valley.

May 7, 2014 - 12:57pm PT
Guess what everyone, the word is out among thieves about climbing gear. Anywhere you can walk they will walk. Don't leave gear at the base.

Sorry it happened to you. I think most people can relate to getting ripped off

Big Wall climber
Typewriters and Ledges
May 7, 2014 - 01:08pm PT
All the more reason to do obscurities.

San Jose, CA
May 7, 2014 - 01:11pm PT
Pat and Jack might be a "spot" for thievery, probably due to the big parking lot across the way and super easy walk up to the base. A few years ago we were on a multipitch romp up to the top of Jack Pinnacle and left some jackets and water bottles stashed neatly out of the way at the bottom. Came back down and it was all gone.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
May 7, 2014 - 01:25pm PT
Understand... the thieves are locals.


Trad climber
Fresno CA
May 7, 2014 - 04:35pm PT
This thread deserves a bump. It needs to stay on the front page a while longer to warn others of the dangers of "two-legged bears" in the Valley and, sad to say, many other beautiful places.

I guess that one of the advantages of pitons and old oval carabiners was the ability to stamp my initials in them. We did that to help sort gear BITD, but it would be a bit of a theft deterrent as well.

Of course, it also helps me establish the value of two of my prize possessions -- two old Chouinard Bugaboos with "CP" -- as in Chuck Pratt -- stamped in them. I got them from Pratt in the early 1970's.


San Jose, CA
May 7, 2014 - 05:39pm PT
Tahoe523, I am sure I did see you that morning even briefly talk to your partner at parking lot. You just parked on left side of my car, while I was waiting for my wife. I did not know that you are Tahoe523.
This day I was waiting my wife too long, went to swim in Merced, forget my watch on the bolder.
When return 4 hours later the watch is gone...

Social climber
May 7, 2014 - 06:40pm PT
:( bad karma for the theives bump

Trad climber
May 7, 2014 - 06:47pm PT
just walked to the base of el cap today and a gal told me gear is being stolen from the base while guys are fixing pitches. heads up!

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
May 7, 2014 - 08:16pm PT
Can't imagine climbing with stolen gear.
Thanks for posting.

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
May 7, 2014 - 09:13pm PT
god damn... that sucks! I got my haul bag stolen while cragging once too...

I feel your pain bro!

my eyes will be peeled for eternity!!!!


Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
May 7, 2014 - 10:33pm PT
If caught, death by #3 beaks.

May 7, 2014 - 10:46pm PT
Sorry to hear your rope got pinched, that stinks.

Last Friday, I left a fizzy drink and an empty plastic bottle in a bear locker by Tenaya Lake. When I got back Sunday, the fizzy drink was gone and the empty plastic bottle was sitting out.

Bastards! The same thieves must be hitting Tioga Road, heads up.

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 7, 2014 - 10:52pm PT
I agree that some legit locals/regulars need to set up a sting op. Send 2 people out for beers/bowls in the woods to chill while the climbing party heads out on a route.

Leave a pack with some visible cams/rope on it at the base. And wait. Charge them from 2 angles as they grab the gear. This can be implemented with a couple of others at the escape routes too. Catch them in the act!

Let the thieves know that the word is out and "many of us" are doing this now to catch the thieves.

This must be stopped. A video-cam from the woods would be legally actionable against the thieves.

May 7, 2014 - 11:04pm PT
Too much work. I'm just gonna drop 10 tabs of acid in the bottle next time I leave a fizzy drink.

Trad climber
Northern California
May 7, 2014 - 11:49pm PT
Im so sorry tahoe523 and all who have been victims of theft. I hope the perpetrators get caught. It sucks to think another climber may be responsible. A few bad apples but they ruin the camaraderie of the mountains for all of us.

Trad climber
Hustle City
May 7, 2014 - 11:53pm PT
Sorry but take some solace in all the love people are sending you

Trad climber
Station Wagon, USA
Topic Author's Reply - May 9, 2014 - 09:47pm PT
Thanks for the bumping sympathies! As they say, resentment is like chugging down rat poison thinking that it'll hurt the other person. Theft sucks, but you can't let such bitterness fester. It does you no good by letting a perp unnecessarily hurt you any further than they already have. Be careful with your gear, but remember that most climbers are nice, honest human beings. A few shitty apples be damned!

On a more sunny note, it has been amusing to see all the targeted advertising. So many ads for grigris and 60m pull cords! The online world knows all!

Sorry I never got to meet you and say hi, Alexey. I'm sure you eventually climbed something wide, hard and scary. :) Have a great weekend, everyone.

Gym climber
sawatch choss
May 9, 2014 - 10:34pm PT
This isn't the tahoe523 TR I was looking for. That sucks. Crank something out and tell us all about it sometime!

Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
May 10, 2014 - 12:57am PT
Sadly this happens All The Time in Yosemite... so just expect that it will happen to you and take precautions. If you leave a fixed line or drop a line to be picked up by a friend later, there is a pretty good chance that someone will steal it... many climbers are honorable but it only takes a few to rip you off.

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
May 10, 2014 - 09:44am PT
GoPros can be set to take a pic every 30 seconds or so. Set up one away from your stuff to monitor the area. Could disguise it in a dog bowl or something.

I think they actually make motion sensors for your gopro, so when someone starts to steal your gear, the camera will turn on and bam, got em!

hope you find your gear!

Trad climber
Pasadena, CA
May 10, 2014 - 10:03am PT
That is really too bad. bump

Trad climber
May 10, 2014 - 11:28am PT
I have posted my similar experience here before. What a bummer. Even more of a bummer is it could be other local climbers. Sad. Good luck on retrieving your gear.
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