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John M

climber
May 11, 2014 - 01:48am PT
Here is the irony of the whole thing. LEB is always first "recognized" not by the detractors but rather by the people who actually like her.

nope.. not true..



good luck with the surgery.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
May 11, 2014 - 02:04am PT
best wishes for your surgery lois.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
May 11, 2014 - 02:08am PT
I'm going to get punched in the face for this.... Sexual behavior is conditioned until science proves otherwise. Take, for example, liking big butts, big boobs, muscle babes, skinny goths, or take kink, or what you might call perversions; Are those genetic programs or behaviors?
I just do drive by posts. It's rhetorical. Think want you want. I'll wait for science.

....and f*#k the bible and all the cults that worship it's lies.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
May 11, 2014 - 04:29am PT
....and f*#k the bible and all the cults that worship it's lies.

Sierra hillbilly talk.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
May 11, 2014 - 05:05am PT
I'm going to get punched in the face for this.... Sexual behavior is conditioned until science proves otherwise. Take, for example, liking big butts, big boobs...

Though not the popular idea, I agree with Flop on this. Preferences that are socially and environmentally conditioned and induced is closer to the truth than genetics. This is my take from the GBL's I know and my opinion after reading the published scientific report on the original , INAH 3 "gland" study. Bad science.

Sex, religion, politics, science... most people believe what they choose to.

go-B

climber
Cling to what is good!
May 11, 2014 - 09:11am PT
It seems all we care about is grab @ss...

DESTINATION, David Jeremiah
DESTINATION, David Jeremiah

THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur
THE GOD WHO LOVES, John MacArthur

...than turning to the God Who Loves us!


locker

Social climber
"Sh#t shack across from the city dump"
May 11, 2014 - 09:26am PT


FACTS:

GOD is a Homophobe, a bigot, and an American...(Political EDIT: Pretty sure he's also a Republican)...



Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
May 11, 2014 - 10:54am PT
Locker, TRUE - It's right there in the Old Testament. I'd really like to speak directly with Yahwa, who shall be known at the LORD. I would not be afraid to call him out on a number of points.

Donni, FACT we are a Christian Nation. It is woven into the fabric of this civilization in so many ways. If you read a Christain bible cover to cover it really help sort out what is what.

Fortunately I think we are moving into a new age of reason, where people can get educated and think for themselves. An age of observation and questions rather than solving confusions with faith in odd stories.


If you watch TV or consume media it might seem like a major part of the country is going Christian crazy, that is the "freak show" lens that nets eyeballs for advertisers. Sensible people are non-news items.


EDIT: I do respect my many Christian friends who have found comfort in Jesus. A man who would be dismayed at what his work has become.

High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 11, 2014 - 11:11am PT
Rosoide, you're LEB?

.....

Despite Christianity and Islam, and their feet on the brakes of progress, the world's modernizing...



Michael Sam gets picked in the draft, and then the whole world sees an NFL player kiss his boyfriend on TV.

Christian nation? How about... cosmopolitan nation.

:)
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
May 11, 2014 - 11:16am PT
This is a rebel nation of protest against religion and monarchies. Freedom from religion is how it is phrased in the constitution.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
May 11, 2014 - 11:47am PT
This is a rebel nation of protest against religion and monarchies. Freedom from religion is how it is phrased in the constitution.

+1000
locker

Social climber
"Sh#t shack across from the city dump"
May 11, 2014 - 11:51am PT


Credit: locker
...

BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
May 11, 2014 - 12:52pm PT

. Freedom from religion is how it is phrased in the constitution.

WRONG!

-1001
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2014 - 12:58pm PT
Freedom OF religion was a blockbuster concept in 1776 an era of state approved religions worldwide. It mean't the freedom to worship ANY religion or NO religion without fear of persecution from the state. Remember....Christianity is just one of many belief systems worldwide.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 11, 2014 - 12:59pm PT
Sullly,
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

:)

.....

Sullly deleted her post, it read...

"Our nation worships tech and the technocrats. Techies? Christians? Same religion, different name with different set of males running it."

Techies. Christians. Same religion? Nah.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
May 11, 2014 - 01:36pm PT
When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one person to dissolve the political bands Which have connected them with another and To assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, That among these are life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

It's obvious that The Founders started this country with Intelligent Design in mind!
And the wording Thoroughly points to the bible. The words "religious freedom" are presented when the act of Oaths when elected included the name Jesus Christ. So the "freedom" allowed any name to be used.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
May 11, 2014 - 01:55pm PT
1. Nature's God not man's god.
2. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

Thusly, hence and thereby : "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.[9]"

You're oblivious.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
May 11, 2014 - 03:25pm PT
You know it's a nation founded by Protestants trying to escape oppresion from larger more oppressive protestants; Catholic Church, Church of England, etc.

That they needed to escape from a power that was trying to enforce a state religion, by puninsment if necessary, is a part of the very foundation of the USA as an independant country.


If the Catholic Church of 1400's had not become so corrupt as to drive Martin Luther to start the whole Protestant movement with Lutheranism, if the Church as it was stayed true to Christ's teachings then the entire world would be a very different place.

I think the crux was when Pope Leo, the Medicci, allowed good wealthy Catholics to buy their way out of sinning. Luther was insenced by this as well as the oppulence of St. Peter's Cathedral.


I think a Donnini Pope would be a good move.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
May 11, 2014 - 03:28pm PT
Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

The pigs done moved into the farm house.

Round and round and round we go.

Oppressed becomes oppressor.

DMT
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
May 11, 2014 - 03:36pm PT

I think a Donnini Pope would be a good move.

Stupid, but a complexly and completely new religion based on Werner's beliefs might be considered. Who should be on the short list of the ordained to proselyte his faith?

All are stupid and fall short in general of glory because they are stupid.
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