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John M

climber
May 11, 2014 - 05:25pm PT
how about easing up on the x catholic stuff. it doesn't prove anything.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
May 11, 2014 - 05:27pm PT
"Christianity" "Science"

Media generalizations.

FACT: Darwin was a Christian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin#Religious_views



Twisted words, misunderstandings and generalizations as facts perpetuate discusion.

Truth, plain and simple, understanding, ends discusion.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
May 11, 2014 - 05:29pm PT
No history of Catholicism in my family. My folks were non-practicing Protestants of some kind. I was exposed to the horrors of Protestantism and Catholicism in the American South and South America and, of course, History.

So, the pope, Jesus, Abraham and the virgin of Guadalupe all represent the same lunacy to me. The Bible is a big fat lie. Without childhood indoctrination religion would die. Religion is racism at its core. If not then why does Christianity keep dividing and dividing into thousands of sects unable to agree. Jesus only unites people in Battle.

Science is the term for a method of proving repeatable experiments to understand our world.
Christianity is just another cult for controlling people.

And if BluBlocr is a Christer against x-Catholics then isn't that just another example of religious hate?
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
May 11, 2014 - 05:39pm PT
Sorry John.
Not meaning any offense to you if you are one. I know that there are some followers of Christ within the church. But I have been keeping tabs on how many of the loudest bible denouncers around here are in fact x-catholic. That's all.

"The only way for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing"
Just heard it on the radio.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
May 11, 2014 - 05:44pm PT
And yet it moves.- Galileo Galilei (attributed)

"…to abstain completely from teaching or defending this doctrine and opinion or from discussing it... to abandon completely... the opinion that the sun stands still at the center of the world and the earth moves, and henceforth not to hold, teach, or defend it in any way whatever, either orally or in writing.

— The Inquisition's injunction against Galileo, 1616.[60]

Christianity= Enemy of Science

It matters not if Darwin professed belief or Galileo dismissed Kepler or if Washington was a deist. Because progress, bitches.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
May 11, 2014 - 05:49pm PT
I will skewer the Bible. Starting with Abraham. He was a murdering, genocidal cult leader using God to justify the killing of whole cities and his own child.

Psycho! Own your book or stfu.
go-B

climber
Cling to what is good!
May 11, 2014 - 05:55pm PT
The Bible Is God's Word
http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/90-323/?term=90-323

The only way we can know God and His will is to have it given to us in a way that is unmistakable. And God has chosen to do that in a book, the Bible.

...yup!
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
May 11, 2014 - 05:57pm PT

And if BluBlocr is a Christer against x-Catholics then isn't that just another example of religious hate?

I don't hate anyone. No matter what label you put on them.

I'm only recognizing and pointing at a pattern.

Can I say that your holding a lot of hate toward religions and maybe even Jesus?
Religions I can understand. But what's wrong with Jesus?
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
May 11, 2014 - 06:04pm PT
Skully,
President Obama of the United States. Not Nigeria. He ( we) has sent military, intelligence and law enforcement. The President and Secretary of State have given support. Do you think that it's some Rambo operation that Obama needs to do alone? Where do you get your propaganda? ( a right wing religious channel perhaps?)
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
May 11, 2014 - 06:08pm PT

I will skewer the Bible. Starting with Abraham. He was a murdering, genocidal cult leader using God to justify the killing of whole cities and his own child.

Flippy, are you jus spouting or are you interested in the truth?
thebravecowboy

climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
May 11, 2014 - 06:09pm PT
jules winfield likes the good book
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
May 11, 2014 - 06:17pm PT
Your so-called 'truth'? From your book? Please. Fancy Creation Mythology isn't my thing.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
May 11, 2014 - 06:25pm PT
hey! time to see how this thread's been doing.







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Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
May 11, 2014 - 06:27pm PT
You guys are just nuts.
Let me make some hypotheses

1. You are a victim of Childhood Indoctrination.
2. You believe that your religion is the "one true religion".
3. Facts, History and Science cannot influence your beliefs.
4. You accept religious authoritarianism.
5. The term 'Creation Mythology' pushes your button.
6. You have special insight into Abrahams murderous acts.

How am I doing? I've got more.

7. You know the Q'uran is not the word of God.
8. You think that Zeus was a fantasy.
9. You aren't exactly comfortable with a Palestinian Jew as the One and Only son of God.
10. You aren't a pacifist.

If I didn't get 100% then I bet I got a 90%

I can go on all day.

And you should all be Mormon because Jesus visited America recently and gave them the reins.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
May 11, 2014 - 06:30pm PT
Flip flop, do you need a hug from Jesus?
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
May 11, 2014 - 06:42pm PT
Lol, thanks Anita. Maybe some hippy man love would fix me. ( I'd wash your feet, tho)

I think that I haven't gotten over the Dark Ages and Witch Burning and the Christian Wars. Poor saps.
John M

climber
May 11, 2014 - 06:48pm PT
For you flip flop

steveA

Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
May 11, 2014 - 06:49pm PT
Jim,

You may have surpassed the all time record for the number of post, in the the time it has been on the Taco. Good job!

Took a few young guns to my old haunt for many years. They got pretty worked on a few 5.10/5.11 old school classics. It was fun, showing them around. ( I feel pretty worked as well). It was 80F and very few black flies.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
May 11, 2014 - 07:27pm PT
What do you do instead of attending to the African girl outrage?
you're a somewhat behind on the news.
16 April The day after the kidnapping Nigeria said the girls had been released
17 April locals including some parents went into the jungle looking for their girls.
18 April the UK offers help. The US offers help about the same time.
A senior State Department official also said Friday that the U.S. offered help "back in April, more or less right away."

"We didn't go public about it because the consensus was that doing so would make the Nigerians less likely to accept our help,"

6 May Michelle starts #BRINGBACKOURGIRLS

Until mid last week Nigeria continued to refuse US and UK offers to help.
9 May US and UK counter terrorism people are on the ground.

The Nigerian Army very likely didn't want our help as they are well known to have been committing atrocities of their own.

your outrage is better directed towards Boko Haram and Nigerian PM Goodluck Johnathan (Christian)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/10/nigeria-kidnapped-girls_n_5302472.html
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
May 11, 2014 - 07:28pm PT
Thanks John, I've often suspected the same. I may need an intervention or exorcism or something ( in a curvy brunette) to heal my sickness.
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