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mcd

Trad climber
Topic Author's Original Post - May 6, 2014 - 01:01am PT
Lots of fun to be had in the canyon, if you should ever get the chance, go down in there. I'm posting a few shots in hopes that others might want to share there adventures in the canyon, with a story or pics.
The first time i went in i was just a 21 year old kid riding my motorcycle cross country solo from new york. i was debating hard on the extra riding to go up to the park for the day, to look down into the canyon.
Met some cool people at the rim overlook, talked me into hiking down in. Ended up spending a month hiking around.
Many years latter i was lucky enough to go back down, in a kayak. here's a few shots

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just imagine how terrified those men were coming down in here on the f...
just imagine how terrified those men were coming down in here on the first descent
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John M

climber
May 6, 2014 - 01:25am PT
Awesome pictures!


There are lots of great stories on the forum, but more would be great!

This is just a few..

http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Zoroaster-Temple-Trip-Report-10-2-07/t408n.html

http://www.supertopo.com/tr/No-Sleep-Till-South-Rim-The-Grand-Canyons-Zoroaster-Temple-in-a-Single-Push/t11265n.html

http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Grand-Canyon-and-Rainbow-Bridge/t10874n.html

http://www.supertopo.com/tr/18-Days-in-the-Grand-Canyon-A-climbing-Trip-Report/t137n.html

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=516954&msg=517109#msg517109


Ekat.. where is your trip report? didn't you go?

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 6, 2014 - 01:30am PT
That looks like one of those dories from the 50's. Hard to believe it hasn't been flushed out by
one of the floods.
thebravecowboy

climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
May 6, 2014 - 01:58am PT
stouts
stouts
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scouts
scouts
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last night outs
last night outs
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Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
May 6, 2014 - 02:42am PT
I have done about 100 miles in the canyon this winter, have just been doing the main trails on the south side. Next trip will be some summits on the easier buttes, 3rd and 4th class or easy 5th. Was just doing trips to get in some sort of shape over the winter, but fell in love with the canyon, unlimited possibilities out there.
eKat

Trad climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
May 6, 2014 - 07:30am PT
Ekat.. where is your trip report? didn't you go?

Yeah. . . I did do it. Spent 15 days paddlin' that puppy. We were only a couple days out of sync with CMac and his crew, who was in radio contact with our crew.

I've written little snippets of my trip on other threads, but I've failed to write a complete TR.

Bad eKat!

:-)

One thing is for sure. . . it was off the charts.

When the jet boat, piloted by a Havasupai who'd been in several knife fights, judging from the scars on his face, dumped us off at South Cove, I could have been airlifted right back to Lee's Ferry to start it all over again.

I was NOT ready for it to be over.

After having studied the Grand Canyon, for years, when this trip was all said and done, I was painfully aware of the fact that I knew absolutely nothing about the Grand Canyon.

That trip shook my Etch-a-Sketch and re-drew the way I look at the world.

ox

wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 6, 2014 - 07:49am PT
"Ended up spending a month hiking around"

You lucky dog,Dan.
I was there in the late 80"s for a week of hiking.
Still simmers in the mind.
Always wanted to get back and paddle there.

Great pics,you also bravecowboy.

Still paddle? Think of going back?
thebravecowboy

climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
May 6, 2014 - 10:11am PT
Not me in the 'yak, wilbeer. I just got an invite to leave in ten days....thinking about continuing non-employment and going back for more. The place is really addictive, especially if you are the oarsman, but mostly if you can GTFO the river corridor and its most touron-impacted areas.
mhay

climber
Bishop, CA
May 6, 2014 - 11:06am PT
No photos right at hand, but I rowed this in November/December of 2000. We saw only one other boat the entire trip. A solo guy in a cataraft. It felt like we were the only people in the entire canyon. Even Phantom Ranch was uncrowded that time of year. Trip of a lifetime. Losing a job to do that trip might just be worth it.
mcd

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2014 - 11:38am PT
when we had the group meeting at the start of the run, i remember beening told i was to run the rapids first, as i was the saftey kayak, and then eddy out as soon as possible and make sure everyone was still in there boats.
i remember shaking my head yes, but thinking holy shitdogs, am i really going to be going down first, scouting on the fly. This was my first big water adventure, and i was getting pushed around by the big water. I was on a freight train of power and had to focus on looking much farther ahead to make the call on which hazards to avoid, and which side of the river i wanted to be on.
I'd run the rapid, eddy out an grab my camera. Heres a few shots.
the gearboat, after its second flip.
the gearboat, after its second flip.
Credit: mcd
big water, 18' raft
big water, 18' raft
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one minute my buddy is at the oars
one minute my buddy is at the oars
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then... nobody at the oars
then... nobody at the oars
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Credit: mcd
Credit: mcd
Mikey, most amazing boater i've ever met
Mikey, most amazing boater i've ever met
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Credit: mcd
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
May 6, 2014 - 11:40am PT
Yes a very special place.
eKat

Trad climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
May 6, 2014 - 12:13pm PT
^ ^ ^ I copy!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
May 6, 2014 - 12:21pm PT
Amazing stuff.

bravecowboy, what's the story behind that last pic? Curious because I wore a pink frilly shirt of Kim Carrigan's as we rapped off of an early ascent of Black Rose, or Black Primo, whatever. I was cold and he had the only extra shirt. I've never forgotten that damn shirt!
thebravecowboy

climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
May 6, 2014 - 01:32pm PT
last night on a rivertrip in the Canyon, things get a little blurred around the edges, amirite? or should I say lacey-frilled around the edges?

the costumery and pageantry of that night were topped only by the sandstorm and the pall of CO bourbon cast into my skull the next AM. I think I woke up wearing a pair of metallic gold capris and a thick coat of quartz grains.


Black Primo, huh? Do tell, if you would, Bruce?
Beatrix Kiddo

Mountain climber
ColoRADo
May 6, 2014 - 03:18pm PT
I did Rim to Rim to Rim a few weeks ago. It was my first time in the big ditch. Its impressive! All of it.
thebravecowboy

climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
May 6, 2014 - 03:22pm PT
Damn Beatrix! The rim-to-rim is on my list in the next year or so. Just pulled the 38 mile Knowles-Mee Canyon loop and starting to think about the next step in prep for the Big Ditch. Any insights or pitfalls that you might share with a budding rim-to-rim runner?
mcd

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2014 - 03:52pm PT
wilbeer, havnt been in the kayak for awhile except to teach some youngsters how to roll. i rowed an 18 footer down the grand last time
here's a few of me from that first trip, along with my buddy mikey
entering lava falls
entering lava falls
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picking the line
picking the line
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Credit: mcd
Mikey
Mikey
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Credit: mcd
bravecowboy, i know what you mean about those last nights and wild times. after lava falls parties, can it get any better?
wow beatrix! rim to rim to rim. how long did that take you to accomplish?
thebravecowboy

climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
May 6, 2014 - 04:02pm PT
mcd, your pics are stunning! your boy Mike C1'ing Lava is baddddddddddd!

Last time I passed thru Lava it started pouring cold rain and we had some purty beat up folks. I was (as always) low on beers. Then I hear the brrrrrrrrr-motor of an S-Rig and who should pass by but the legendary MN-Moabite Al with a load of tequila and shitty Lites. He tossed 'em ashore, the bottles went 'round, and spirits lifted (punzies!).... Long Live Al!

The magic of the place is rooted both in the solo discoveries it affords and the serendipity of good, solid people at the right moments.
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
May 6, 2014 - 04:52pm PT
Thank you for reminding me that I need to make this happen!

And is that guy paddling a ww canoe? Sick!!
KabalaArch

Trad climber
Starlite, California
May 6, 2014 - 05:36pm PT
Here's a couple spots on the N Rim off the beaten path-

Toroweap Pt is at the far west edge of what used to be the Nat'l Monument. Easiest access is to head south from Colorado City – certainly a remarkable place in its own right, particularly on Sundays. 60 miles of well graded (except for the last mile or 2) dirt road leads to the Big Jumpoff, which is to say that you can drive right to the brink of the Inner Gorge. About a dozen “primitive” sites with no Fee that I recall. Used to be a lot cooler before the surrounding area became a designated WSA, and they barricaded the jeep trail that meandered all over the Tonto Bench.

Pt. Sublime has to be the most, well, sublime scene on the N Rim. There are only a couple of camping spots, 1st come, 1st serve. The NPS rangerette was very kind to let me know that the thing to do, if you've got to hang for a little while before you can camp out at the Pt, is to cross over into the adjacent USFS lands, where there is ample at-large camping, right on the Rim.

Based on George Steck's excellent guidebook to off-trail Canyon descents, found my way down through the Toroweap Formation (the cap rock, whose westerly terminus is per the above) to Flint Col, which is between Pt Sublime, and Sagittarius Ridge. Some of the most technical and difficult bushwhacking I've ever encountered, to say nothing of the routefinding necessary.

There used to be a VHS called “Canyon Dreams,” or something like that; must be DVDs around; Tangerine Dream soundtrack. That's the closest I'll get to the River itself – TFPU all the action pics!
Festus

Social climber
Enron by the Sea
May 6, 2014 - 06:24pm PT
Just got back from a Bass to Boucher hike a couple weeks ago but was too lazy to post anything until now. I've been getting in a trip or so a year since '83 and the irony is that of all the hikes I've done in that time (with the same handful of friends) this last one is probably the only one I wouldn't do again. Too much Tonto platform and not enough river. The lure for us is always a beach, capping off all the rest of what's been said in this thread. Stay off the Bright Angel and Kaibab and also skip Hermit Creek (as a river campsite) and you're almost guaranteed a beach all to yourself--very, very few people ever hike to and camp on the river via every other "non-maintained" route from either rim. You work for it a little, but the pay off is unbelievable solitude and beauty, great trout fishing, river-chilled beers, and--honestly unless you're incredibly unlucky-- the only people you'll see are the occasional rafters floating by.

View from the top of the South Bass trail.  The metal boat on the rock...
View from the top of the South Bass trail. The metal boat on the rocks upthread is, I think, the Ross Wheeler, abandoned on the rocks above Bass beach back in the day.
Credit: Festus

Yeah, that's the river but we ain't gonna be able to get down to it fo...
Yeah, that's the river but we ain't gonna be able to get down to it for another 30 miles. What dumbass picked this route to get to Boucher beach?!
Credit: Festus

Credit: Festus

Day 2.  Yeah, we're still on the Tonto.  That's Scorpion Ridge on the ...
Day 2. Yeah, we're still on the Tonto. That's Scorpion Ridge on the north side, with the river in the gorge between us. Can't get to it directly from here, somewhere near Sapphire Canyon.
Credit: Festus

Last Tonto campsite, at Slate Creek.  You can actually follow this can...
Last Tonto campsite, at Slate Creek. You can actually follow this canyon down to the river but it's a serious bushwhack and we're only about 7 easy trail miles from Boucher Beach now.
Credit: Festus

Looking up Slate Canyon to the rim (Harvey Butchart found a route ...
Looking up Slate Canyon to the rim (Harvey Butchart found a route up and out from here...no thanks!). Bushwhack down Slate and you come to one of the big boat-flippers: Crystal.
Credit: Festus

Yeah, my friends are dorks...and vice versa.
Yeah, my friends are dorks...and vice versa.
Credit: Festus

Credit: Festus

Boucher ain't much (and neither are those pants) but their nex...
Boucher ain't much (and neither are those pants) but their next rapid is Crystal.
Credit: Festus

Okay, it isn't a fly but the hooks are barbless.  Happy?
Okay, it isn't a fly but the hooks are barbless. Happy?
Credit: Festus

thebravecowboy

climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
May 6, 2014 - 06:55pm PT
Cool hike Festus, but did you really carry BEER all that way?!

So what's your favorite? Great Thumb is s'posedly a peach to traverse ;)
Festus

Social climber
Enron by the Sea
May 6, 2014 - 07:11pm PT
Bravecowboy,

You have to carry beers down to the river, it's below 50 degrees so swimming isn't a huge consumer of time. Dump some food if you have to, ' cuz a cold beer on a secluded beach in GC that you earned, well, it's one of life's greatest pleasures. I've actually carried over half a case in my younger days, but always at least a couple now. The killer was I punctured a can of Old Chub Scotch Ale (which was inside my pack and soaked the bottom of it) two days before we got to the refrigerator. That hurt!
eKat

Trad climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
May 6, 2014 - 07:23pm PT
You have to carry beers down to the river

I heard that!

I took 2 cases of Heineken down there and I'm not much of a drinker. . . but. . . I drank at least 2 of them everyday. Ice cold from the drag bag under the boat, after paddling all day, kickin' back in camp after all the work was done.

Silence punctuated by the glee of canyon wrens.

PURE BEAUTY!

Damn. . . I'm ready to go back. . . just give me a week to get all my sh#t in one sock.
Festus

Social climber
Enron by the Sea
May 6, 2014 - 09:06pm PT
Yuma Point, off the Boucher trail on the way out. To this spot makes f...
Yuma Point, off the Boucher trail on the way out. To this spot makes for a longish but truly spectacular out and back day hike from the south rim if you've only got a day.
Credit: Festus
Festus

Social climber
Enron by the Sea
May 6, 2014 - 09:25pm PT
Bravecowboy,

My favorite, if I had to pick one, is the Butte Fault (a.k.a. Horsethief) route, down the Nankoweap, then west (or southwest) along the fault, then across the river, and out. There is no trail along the fault, but it's mind-bending geology there, even by Grand Canyon standards. We hauled an inflatable raft the whole way, for the crossing (at Lava Creek, not to be confused with Lava Falls) to the south side, about five miles upriver from Tanner, then we hiked out the Tanner.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 7, 2014 - 06:45pm PT
Dan,that looks like a lot of Hair in the ditch,great pics.Festus as well.
mcd

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 7, 2014 - 07:07pm PT
yes wilbeer, always an eye opener. festus thanks so much for all the great beta and terrific pics. have any more?
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Credit: mcd
boat repair
boat repair
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the boobie boat!
the boobie boat!
Credit: mcd
Credit: mcd
Credit: mcd
using the wind on the flats
using the wind on the flats
Credit: mcd
Festus

Social climber
Enron by the Sea
May 7, 2014 - 08:57pm PT
Dan, you really shouldn't encourage me, but...

The first two pics are of Scylla Butte, which you hike around as you travel upriver on the Tonto. First shot is from the west side, second one from the east side (just east of Slate Canyon). Has anyone ever climbed this? It's sheer on all sides but looks a little, er, crumbly. It would be an awesome inner canyon plateau to be sitting atop though.

EDIT: Dan, your photos are great as well...especially for someone who has never done the river trip through the canyon (on my list and then some, when my kids are old enough). Funny thing is that hiking to the river and back from the rim and running the river through the entire canyon are two totally different experiences. One gives you a cross section (north to south or vice versa) view/experience of the canyon, and the other takes you all the way down/through the spine or central nervous system of the place, on the creator itself (the river). I can't imagine doing one without the other, so I've clearly got a river trip to do, though the pay-off they have in common is those incredible days and nights on a hard-earned, indescribably unique and often hauntingly beautiful beach.

Credit: Festus

Credit: Festus

Still on the Tonto, looking west.  From here, going east, you drop off...
Still on the Tonto, looking west. From here, going east, you drop off the Tonto to Boucher Creek pretty quickly, and then have only a level creekside mile walk to the beach.
Credit: Festus

Credit: Festus

Not the sharpest picture, but if you stare hard enough (or click o...
Not the sharpest picture, but if you stare hard enough (or click on it to blow it up) you'll see a few rafts.
Credit: Festus

The pic below is actually from a trip two and half years ago to Boucher Beach, where we camped upstream from the creek. It looks the same now, but downstream from the creek (where we camped this time) another 50 or so yards of prime beach has been added to what was there last time. But as you river runners know better than I, beaches can change a lot down there. First time I was on Boucher Beach there really wasn't one, just some little, level sand platforms in the rocks about ten feet above river level. They were great campsites but it looked nothing like it does now. Another benefit, seems to me, of hiking and river trips, it's never exactly the same beaches, rapids or inner-canyon shoreline from one trip to the next.

Credit: Festus

Center of photo is White's Butte (which sits atop the Redwall)...
Center of photo is White's Butte (which sits atop the Redwall) as seen from the top of the Supai near Yuma Point on the way out.
Credit: Festus



Festus

Social climber
Enron by the Sea
May 7, 2014 - 09:37pm PT
Okay, okay, I'm done! Honest! (for this trip anyway)


The big beach downriver from Boucher Creek
The big beach downriver from Boucher Creek
Credit: Festus

Morning (after a little ran in the night), drying out gear at ...
Morning (after a little ran in the night), drying out gear at campsite on Yuma Point.
Credit: Festus

Another view from Yuma Point.  From here it's a couple of truly memora...
Another view from Yuma Point. From here it's a couple of truly memorable miles traversing around Hermit Canyon and then one last climb to Hermit's Rest and you're heading for a restaurant and cold beer.
Credit: Festus

Looking east from the Boucher trail as you begin the traverse around H...
Looking east from the Boucher trail as you begin the traverse around Hermit Canyon from Yuma Point.
Credit: Festus

Steve
the albatross

Gym climber
Flagstaff
May 7, 2014 - 11:38pm PT
Festus, that Boucher Creek place looks really cool. We need the masses to visit. I'm thinking Gondola, restaurant, micro-brewery, maybe even a Putt-Putt.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2005084/Grand-Canyon-AZ-Gondola

Naw, I'm just kidding. Looks like a grand adventure in a cool place. Thanks for sharing everyone.

Festus

Social climber
Enron by the Sea
May 8, 2014 - 12:06am PT
That's funny!! Hey, it looks like the gondola to the confluence is dead? I'm on the "Save the Confluence" email list thanks to you. I knew nothing about that possibility until the thread here on ST. Sounds to me like nobody came up with any real money hence no bribes, er, consultation fees, for tribe brass.
the albatross

Gym climber
Flagstaff
May 8, 2014 - 12:21am PT
Haven't seen much in the news lately, Steve, hopefully that idea is done.

Albert
Festus

Social climber
Enron by the Sea
May 8, 2014 - 01:32am PT
Albert, I'm hoping too. I don't know why they don't just give the tribes an acre or two next to Tusayan and let 'em build a goddam casino there. Tusayan is already a complete sh#thole but it's miles back from the rim and, honestly, there isn't anything you could do to make it less of a sh#thole save the nuclear option. So what the hell, bring me a free cocktail and I'll drop a twenty on some rigged, quasi-version of blackjack on my way home. Heck, it cost me twenty just to cross 37 yards of Hualapai land on my way to the South Bass trailhead, with no cocktail.
mcd

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 8, 2014 - 10:08pm PT
festus, you really know your way around the canyon, thanks for all the excellent beta. how many hiking trips have you done down there? when i first went down with friends i met at the rim i think we were on the tonto for a bit and went to a place called cave of the domes, ever been there?. crazy fun spelunking. heres a shot of the traditional mudbath at the confluence of the little colorado
Credit: mcd
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 9, 2014 - 06:44am PT
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Festus

Social climber
Enron by the Sea
May 9, 2014 - 01:26pm PT
Tradman, is that the overlook at Toroweap? What a shot!

Dan,

I've done over 40 rim to river backpack trips but that's over a period of 31 years (where the hell did the time go?!). Haven't been in Cave of Domes (caves kind of freak me out), but I once ("once" being the key word) walked about 100 yards into the mining tunnel near there (the one you hit as you drop off the neck of Horseshoe Mesa on the east side). We got to a T intersection and it was so dark I couldn't see my hand an inch from my nose with the flashlight off. Turned the light back on in a hurry and got the heck out of there. Except for North Bass, and the Bright Angel/Kaibab central corridor stuff (too crowded if solitude is part of what you're after) I've done all the rim-to-river trails the backcountry office lists as non-maintained, along with Royal Arch route, Escalante, Beamer to the confluence, and the aforementioned Horsethief route, but that still leaves a lifetime of possibilities--especially at our current one trip a year pace. Plus there's hundreds and hundreds of miles of stuff that's way beyond my pay grade down there. Much as I love reading George Steck's Canyon Loop Hikes books (highly recommended) most of those routes, at least in their entirety, are far harder than anything I've done.
Since I'm a backpacker but not much (if any) of a climber, I love quoting Allen Steck's forward (George is his brother) from those Loop Hikes books to my climbing brother. Can't remember the exact quote, but the gist of it is that doing a canyon loop hike with his brother is the hardest thing he's ever done.
Beatrix Kiddo

Mountain climber
ColoRADo
May 9, 2014 - 03:26pm PT
I didn't run rim to rim to rim but I did pass some ultra runners on the uphill. Our total hiking time was about 22 hours. We stopped and took long naps, which are not factored into the time. I really don't have any advice. We went light and fast and expected to be uncomfortable. Make sure you have enough food for the way out. Keep a positive attitude and have really strong legs. :-)
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 9, 2014 - 06:24pm PT
Yup. Made it all the way back there in a rental car:)
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 9, 2014 - 06:38pm PT
That is a great shot,tradman.+++
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 9, 2014 - 11:35pm PT
Thanks, it was a special place on a special trip.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Feb 23, 2018 - 11:10am PT
2019 permit winnah!!!! ahhhhh!!!! shit!!!! hooray!??
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Feb 23, 2018 - 11:42am PT
name that syndicato granitica member for a warm tecate.  BONUS: cold t...
name that syndicato granitica member for a warm tecate. BONUS: cold tecate for campsite.
Credit: thebravecowboy


m'self, at 26.5 mph thru Granite
m'self, at 26.5 mph thru Granite
Credit: Cpt. Huster
John M

climber
Feb 23, 2018 - 12:17pm PT
I really wish that I had made it down there on an extended trip. Seems like a magical place.

More pictures please.. for those of us who didn't get to see very much of it.
Dan McDevitt

Social climber
tioga cliff or fifi buttress
Feb 23, 2018 - 03:01pm PT
good job on the permit B.C.!!!
Its been awhile but i think this one is Deer Cr. Falls. Mayfield and crew.
Credit: Dan McDevitt
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Feb 23, 2018 - 03:34pm PT
thanks for the stokeitude McD!


little needle pricks of falling water under that pourover at DC. must be a rather exciting rap!



edit:
vvv nope, river right. vvv
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 24, 2018 - 05:16pm PT
Yeah, gotta get back to Toroweap. Visit John Riffy's grave and pull a little JB.

What a place.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Feb 24, 2018 - 06:32pm PT
still cracking up at the thought of tradman out Toroweap in a rental


mike don't swim
mike don't swim
Credit: thebravecowboy
the night of the putting in is always temporally rich, but this was go...
the night of the putting in is always temporally rich, but this was goood.
Credit: thebravecowboy




vasey's (p.i.) paradise
vasey's (p.i.) paradise
Credit: thebravecowboy
Credit: thebravecowboy

neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Feb 24, 2018 - 06:37pm PT
hey there say, mcd... thank you all so much for sharing all this!!!

neat stuff!!
spazzer

climber
Feb 24, 2018 - 07:00pm PT
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Feb 24, 2018 - 07:28pm PT
what'd you think of the potential in the fluted schist for some dws, spazzer?
spazzer

climber
Feb 24, 2018 - 07:33pm PT
The river patrols weren't operational, maybe theyz' were all tied up?
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Feb 24, 2018 - 07:43pm PT
after work
after work
Credit: thebravecowboy

some fine scrambling for sure




made it back down all 'lone in time for chili with more wine.
Credit: thebravecowboy
spazzer

climber
Feb 25, 2018 - 07:34pm PT

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 26, 2018 - 12:18pm PT
You kidding? One of the best off road machines in the world is a rental car. Its amazing where those things can go.
spazzer

climber
Feb 27, 2018 - 04:25am PT
Dan McDevitt

Social climber
tioga cliff or fifi buttress
Feb 27, 2018 - 11:33am PT
Great shots guys!!!
Swilliam winding down from the long drive to the put in.
Swilliam winding down from the long drive to the put in.
Credit: Dan McDevitt
Jerry Dodrill

climber
Bodega
Feb 27, 2018 - 11:58am PT
Great thread. I've been blessed to be able to run some photography trips down the canyon over the past few years and thought I'd share a couple pics.
Vasey's Paradise, May 2017
Vasey's Paradise, May 2017
Credit: Jerry Dodrill
Red Wall Cavern
Red Wall Cavern
Credit: Jerry Dodrill
Clear Creek Falls, River Mile 84
Clear Creek Falls, River Mile 84
Credit: Jerry Dodrill
Sunrise on Chuar Butte at confluence of the Little Colorado River, Gra...
Sunrise on Chuar Butte at confluence of the Little Colorado River, Grand Canyon
Credit: Jerry Dodrill
Elve's Chasm, Grand Canyon
Elve's Chasm, Grand Canyon
Credit: Jerry Dodrill
Blacktail Canyon in Grand Canyon
Blacktail Canyon in Grand Canyon
Credit: Jerry Dodrill
Blue Head Suckers spawn at the mouth of Havasu Creek in the Colorado R...
Blue Head Suckers spawn at the mouth of Havasu Creek in the Colorado River.
Credit: Jerry Dodrill
I've got one open seat for our up coming trip in May.
Jody

climber
Occupied Territory
Feb 28, 2018 - 05:44pm PT
The real GC adventure is trying to survive a helicopter tour.

Jerry, great shots...really cool.
spazzer

climber
Mar 1, 2018 - 06:04am PT
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 1, 2018 - 10:34am PT
Yes, thanks for the share, Jerry. Magnificent spread!
spazzer

climber
Mar 1, 2018 - 05:04pm PT
Inner City

Trad climber
Portland, OR
Mar 1, 2018 - 09:43pm PT
Grand Canyon, wow, what an awesome and endlessly big place. I've not spent any time there, but would love a good backpacking recommendation that involves some nice off-trail or primitive trail hiking...??

I've done a fair amount of canyon hiking and exploring in UT including technical stuff, but non in GC. Should I pick up Rudow's book (or is it Todd Martin's?) and pick, or does somebody have a great idea? Love to hike down to the bottom and back out on a non-standard, classic route.

I am hoping to be there in the second week of May..seems like there are too many options...

My email address here does not work but could provide if prompted...

Dave
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 4, 2018 - 11:18am PT
Dave - I love the UPS Route for a short trip, day in, day out to the river. For longer (5-7 days depending on where you finish) and a full dose of the canyon the Escalante route is pretty much a trail now, but is rated one of the best backpacks in America. I did it in 6 days from Tanner to South Kaibab and only saw humans on day one, day six and when I camped below Horseshoe mesa.

Todds book is good, but the internet has 90% of the info. The Grand Canyon Backpackers Assoc listserv is a great resource, Todd and Rich both participate along with many other seasoned experts.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 4, 2018 - 11:46am PT
Credit: tradmanclimbs
The rental. had it rained we would still be out there ;)
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 4, 2018 - 11:59am PT
Credit: tradmanclimbs
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Mar 4, 2018 - 12:47pm PT
yea, though I row through the valley of the shadow of Choss...
yea, though I row through the valley of the shadow of Choss...
Credit: thebravecowboy
Inner City

Trad climber
Portland, OR
Mar 6, 2018 - 10:32pm PT
J Beck,
Thanks for the information on Escalante route..looks great.

Am thrilled to finally spend some time in the big Kahuna...

Dave
spazzer

climber
Mar 7, 2018 - 07:41pm PT
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Mar 8, 2018 - 09:04am PT
bump for ditch pix
Mike.

climber
Mar 8, 2018 - 09:25am PT
A friend has convinced me that this is a good idea.

Schillings gets it done
Schillings gets it done
Credit: J. Schillings

S. Morris destroys again
S. Morris destroys again
Credit: S. Morris


The AZT takes Bright Angel to North Rim. No tires touching the ground, disassembled, or else. Why TF not, it's only 20 out of 800 miles.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 8, 2018 - 12:15pm PT
unorthodox canyon crossings, the bike is cool.

The guys that made the movie Unbranded rode broken mustangs through the canyon on their ride from Mexico to Canada, with permission I presume. The North Kaibab gets pretty serious in spots, I would not want to be perched on a skittish free spirited horse in some spots.

North Kaibab on previously wild horses
North Kaibab on previously wild horses
Credit: Jon Beck


Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Mar 8, 2018 - 05:45pm PT
One word; mules.
spazzer

climber
Mar 15, 2018 - 04:34pm PT
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 15, 2018 - 04:58pm PT
N Kaibab on a horse? A mouse runs out and yer history!
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 15, 2018 - 05:17pm PT
would not worry about a mouse but a snake would certainly get a horses attention.
spazzer

climber
Mar 25, 2018 - 04:42pm PT
Hey doods... stop commenting on routes you haven't done!
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