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JonA

Trad climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Mar 29, 2014 - 09:52am PT
Under Communism, man exploits man. Under Capitalism it is the exact opposite.
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Mar 29, 2014 - 09:56am PT
He's hand in hand with a Skesis...
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 29, 2014 - 09:57am PT
I saw the PowerPoint presentation for this at my last masons potluck and it all seemed pretty good.


Also, who has a pension anymore? What year is it again?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 10:03am PT
word on the street is that Turkey was caught red-handed planning a false flag op to invade Northern Syria and retake some land.

remember a few days ago they shut down Twitter and some other internet services?

The NWO plot in Ukraine was a failure though, so that's cool....
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 29, 2014 - 11:24am PT
Gloom, despair, and agony on me.

Deep dark depression, excessive misery.

Have a good Saturday gang!!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 11:31am PT
The international globalist mafia rigged the "revolution", overthrown democratically-elected government and proceeded to push Ukraine into the economic slavery loan deal with IMF (International Monetary (Mafia) Fund). This is almost a done deal. The deal will require privatization of all assets Ukraine owns, basically--anything it owns that is of value--coal mines, gas resources, etc, and shifting them into the hands of "foreign investors".

This is, basically, a take-over by the bankster elite. The leaders of "euro-maidan" movement that made the barricades are already being offed, on orders from wesern puppet-masters--Sashko Biliy was killed recently by new Ukrainian police; another maidan leader who was gonig to run for president was on the list as well. EU/US had put puppets like Yatsenyuk (little unknown bankster), and others (whose public support rating, as individual politicians, runs at about 1%, according to all polls), gave them full power over Ukraine and rushing them to sign IMF slavery deal now fast, after they realized how low of a chance their puppets have at winning the elections. (other aspects of IMF deal include raising utilities costs up to 2x, firing 10% of public employees, cutting pensions, taking free textbooks from students, takign all possible and reasonable subsidies from people--taking away all public resources these people own at the same time). After Ukraine has no more assets, they'll be at full power of this scum (this is when they'll wish they still had Putin's freely given oil/gas money).

Not to mention that good portions of IMF loans will be pocketed.

But that's not what CNN said was happening, so it must not be true....

Putin=bad
Entering the EU=good

/sarc....
Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Mar 29, 2014 - 11:51am PT
For you bluering.. Don't fear the fear. Really, the first amendment is a pretty incredible thing.

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Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Mar 29, 2014 - 11:59am PT
Don't have much time, but I hope the Ukranians can decide their fate in a fair and accessible election. My limited understanding of the history between the Ukraine and Russia follows. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Their relationship was complicated by their geographic locations, and the sides chosen in WWII. Being distantly related to people originating from the French German border, I can only imagine the deprivations of war.

Finally,

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Viva la Pussy Riot!!!
hossjulia

Trad climber
Carson City, NV
Mar 29, 2014 - 01:05pm PT
^^THAT^^ is a broken record.
FYI, I only read about 5 words of your posts Tioga to know I don't need to read anymore. Fair enough, right?

Survival, I hear ya!

What can any of us do? Put your money where your mouth is and treat each other well. It's about all we can do.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 29, 2014 - 01:13pm PT
NWO...They make drugs that could help you...Just saying...
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 29, 2014 - 01:28pm PT
why is it that everyone else is a Sheepie but yourself, oh twice banned NWO?

natural selection?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 01:38pm PT
Tioga is right, he's just very blunt. As am I sometimes.

You can make fun of people like us, mock us, but we will will not relent. It's o.k. if you want nothing to do with this struggle to awaken people to what is happening before our eyes. We're just trying to sound the alarm that the MSM has failed to do.

You can ignore it and go about your lives, because for now, they're safe. We feel none of the repercussions right now.

But if you look at history, you can see parallels to other events that have already occurred, and how those events have led to the current global governance.

Your government, in America, does not do what is in your best interest. They do what is in their best interest, or the interests of their lobbiests. This is true in both parties. There are exceptions, but they are castigated by the 'establishment' (NWO) as crazy, and extreme.

We live in very interesting times. Some of us are not crazy but are just trying to deliver information that the MSM and gov't doesn't want you to know.

They want you to sleep, pay no attention, listen to the 'talking points'.

Go ahead and mock us though. Even some of you that mock us publicly understand that we're right, but you're afraid to be called names, better to be part of the flock.

hossjulia

Trad climber
Carson City, NV
Mar 29, 2014 - 01:44pm PT
The struggle bluering is to not let our government falling down around us ruin our FUN!
People having fun are positive. Positive people create positive results.

Just because we advocate having fun with our lives does not mean our head is stuck in the sand. It's a choice. And about the only one that makes sense, no?

Pretty much everyone making fun of the politicos on ST knows exactly what is going on. Out in the world. It is silly to *ass-ume* they need edumacatin.

So why am I sitting at home on the computer with my rope on still and no breakfast in me yet? Because damn it, I am NOT having fun.


Edited to add; I WISH I still had my rope on, but alas, it's just a robe.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 02:00pm PT
The struggle bluering is to not let our government falling down around us ruin our FUN!
People having fun are positive. Positive people create positive results.

Just because we advocate having fun with our lives does not mean our head is stuck in the sand. It's a choice. And about the only one that makes sense, no?

Pretty much everyone making fun of the politicos on ST knows exactly what is going on. Out in the world. It is silly to *ass-ume* they need edumacatin.

So why am I sitting at home on the computer with my rope on still and no breakfast in me yet? Because damn it, I am NOT having fun.


Edited to add; I WISH I still had my rope on, but alas, it's just a robe.

I wasn't referring to anybody in particular really. But people like myself are used to being called names, labeled. (oh, now I'm a 'victim', poor me).

I don't really give a f*#k about that, but I take note of people who would react to me in certain ways. People who would infer that I was a liar, or propagator of, well, propaganda.

Anybody who knows me, here or in person, should understand my principles. And those are that of Family and Country. I put those things first, everything else is secondary. I'd mention God, but your eyes would probably roll, so I'll keep that to myself.

I don't doubt that you too care, Julia, but let us continue to spread information that some will never see in the MSM.

EDIT: Oh, and anybody that knows me will tell that maybe I enjoy life a little too much. I know how to have fun and relax, and get some climbing in...
hossjulia

Trad climber
Carson City, NV
Mar 29, 2014 - 02:07pm PT
MSM is a sulphide compound used as a joint supplement.

What does it have to do with politics?

(I really hate initials being thrown around with the ass-umption every one knows what it means)

bluey, I wasn't pickin on you man, lighten up and have some fun, ok?

And I am NOT in a lighten up mood either, but I'm trying. :)
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 02:25pm PT
Julia, I understand that I come as a paranoid right-wing nut here. It's mostly true. I'm more conservative than yer average Repub Congressman.

But, it's only because I'm a child of the old America. Where people put America first, and their family above that!

This Internationalism at the expense of our own economy is sad to me. We should be good neighbors with the global economy, competition and cooperation, but I start loading my weapons when I hear of global governance of economies. That is where they're going.

What's wrong with just letting people do independent trade deals? It's an idea our Founders were brilliant at.

Federalism.

You can have an overall body to govern the SOVEREIGN states it oversaw. The body had limited oversight and was subject to overturn by the States it oversaw, if they had a majority. We may need to do this soon.

Read this book; http://www.amazon.com/The-Liberty-Amendments-Restoring-American/dp/1451606273

It's brilliant. And the guy has fought before the Supreme Court before, and won!
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 29, 2014 - 04:12pm PT
Oh man this thread is getting awesome. Anyone here spend time at freerepublic.com?


*edit* oh sh#t, blurring. Did you just come out as a Sovereign Citizen?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 29, 2014 - 04:13pm PT
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Mar 29, 2014 - 04:32pm PT

Mar 29, 2014 - 01:21pm PT
Globalization leads to less wars, if the economical benefits are controversial to you, Bluey.

Example: EUROPE

Andrzej

I think you mean fewer. But for the USA that just isn't so.

After the two biggies in the first half of the last century, we have been continually at war someplace with maybe a year or two off since 1950.

We are the kings of globalization, and we have to stay at war to keep in front.
dirtbag

climber
Mar 29, 2014 - 04:55pm PT
If They are trying to kill us, then They are not doing a very good job. Population and life expectancies keep increasing.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Mar 29, 2014 - 06:02pm PT
They're not trying to kill us. Just continue using us.
dirtbag

climber
Mar 29, 2014 - 06:07pm PT
Thanks for the reminder. I almost forgot that I am supposed to be miserable.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 06:22pm PT
Mock us all you want.

You don't get the game. And you stupid f*#king greenies should wake up too. The powers-that-be, including Al Gore, don't give a f*#k about the Earth or it's environment, they want power. Power over you!

This is why they try to crush anyone who speaks of good 'ole Constitutional personal liberty. They hate this, and hate the boundaries the Constitution set up for us.

The Constitution is our last defense. Protect it, or submit to the global Socialists.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Mar 29, 2014 - 06:26pm PT
But Blue, profits must increase at all costs! Lol
dirtbag

climber
Mar 29, 2014 - 06:28pm PT
Run for the hills!
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 06:41pm PT
Bluering,
What good is your nationalism if it only serves to ruin our earth?
How are you different from every other fundamentalist paranoid?
1. Militant God Worshiper
2. Unique insight to a higher truth.
3. Angry, judgmental and superior.

Sadly, you are the same as every angry, violence hungry, god worshipping doomsday prophet. Only you are all wrong and not very well informed. Your fear causes the conservative reactions. What's interesting to me is that environment is the First Nation and Gods creation. That's why no one agrees with your hypocritical positions.

Your bible would insist that we kill you if we followed it word for word. It's a conspiracy book by illuminati and you gobble it up. Luckily Fox tells you what to think and what rules to believe and what to ignore. Because you are more smarter than us.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 06:46pm PT
Mikey, the profits have become another tool of globalists.

Profit is not bad, and neither is Capitalism, it just depends upon how it's wielded.

Capitalism is corruptible, and subject to the fallacies of mankind. Real men (and women) need to rise up and take hold of our institutions that have run amock.

We need new leadership. I would sign up for this task, but they'd never have me (part of the problem), but I see some that could go far in this.

Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Mar 29, 2014 - 06:52pm PT
Dude. Sacarsm. The system is broken. We are slaves to paper which we cannot eat.

Why? Cause there isn't a better way. To which i say, BULLSH!T!

Working within the current establishment is impossible. If we want change, we have to come together and effect it ourselves.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 06:56pm PT
Then again I'm a global socialist. I like freedom. Besides freedom here are other socialist things that I support,
1. The Rule of Law and our Constitution
2. Free Hospitals
3.Free Education
4. Social Services
5. Public Safety
6. The Military ( then again as a global socialist I can see the end of war.)
7. Government of and by the people
8. National Parks
9. Parks
10. Hot Nurses
11. Helicopter Rescue
12. Free Waterways
13. Clean Air
14. Protection from Religion
15. Protection from Government
16. Protection from Moneyed interests
17. Libraries
18. California State Universities and the rest.
19. Disaster relief

Repeat after me:
Progress means that we do better tomorrow. Responsible. Social. Policy.

Do you think that progress will lose? You mad bro?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 07:02pm PT
Working within the current establishment is impossible. If we want change, we have to come together and effect it ourselves.

That is exactly what I'm endeavoring people to do, work with me. We can all speak out, voice our dissent.

I went to a buddies house last night and his only concern was how his stocks were doing. And they were well.

Nobody is looking outside their sphere of immediate influence. Nobody is looking 'big picture'.

What I see is not good.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 29, 2014 - 07:05pm PT
You don't get the game. And you stupid f*#king greenies should wake up too. The powers-that-be, including Al Gore, don't give a f*#k about the Earth or it's environment, they want power. Power over you!


Dude, how do you expect any kind of a civil conversation with that kind of response?


bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 07:06pm PT
Flip-flop hold on, I need another beer to explain life to you.....
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 29, 2014 - 07:14pm PT
I agree...Al Gore wants more power over us by persuading us to use less oil which supports the Corporations that don't produce oil....I GET IT...?
vlani

Trad climber
mountain view, ca
Mar 29, 2014 - 07:42pm PT
I see some major misunderstanding here on a side of what the communism look like - from inside.
It is when:
- you do not know what taxes is;
- you are guaranteed to have pension; as well as modest accommodation and food on the table;
- you can only guess what stock market is. Market is where you buy veggies, but what is stock?
- you have no clue about your luck of freedom;
- the Big Brother watches over you, and you live worry-free;
- you do what is proper and happy about it;
- you are told every day that this is the best way to live and you believe it;
- you are proud of yourself and all the above;
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 08:10pm PT
Do you all know how lame Santa Clara is? Suburban conservative yuppies with too much cash and too little cool. How's that beer coming. See what happened there? Sucked in. Must resist the black hole of troll. (Leland Stanford was a robber baron and a true dick.)
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 08:23pm PT
Well, Flip Flop, I'll address you. You are prolly a troll, but I'll respond,

Then again I'm a global socialist. I like freedom. Besides freedom here are other socialist things that I support,
1. The Rule of Law and our Constitution
2. Free Hospitals
3.Free Education
4. Social Services
5. Public Safety
6. The Military ( then again as a global socialist I can see the end of war.)
7. Government of and by the people
8. National Parks
9. Parks
10. Hot Nurses
11. Helicopter Rescue
12. Free Waterways
13. Clean Air
14. Protection from Religion
15. Protection from Government
16. Protection from Moneyed interests
17. Libraries
18. California State Universities and the rest.
19. Disaster relief

Repeat after me:
Progress means that we do better tomorrow. Responsible. Social. Policy.

Do you think that progress will lose? You mad bro?

Except for your first rule, you are full of crap. Utter bullsh#t.

Do you have any concept of gov't? Have you ever paid taxes in cali?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 09:12pm PT
Hank, the way we solve this little dilemma, is by hiking up our skirts!

Taking personal responsibility! Stop sucking the f*#king gov't juice.

Walk away from the system, it's rotten. We can rebuild a real gov't intent on it's real functions, but the former one has to be dismembered.

It will take time. But it can, and must be done.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Mar 29, 2014 - 09:16pm PT
Hank- "We" meaning the common people of earth.

I don't have a plan, but i do know, when "we" finally decide to stand up to the banksters, there will be a lot more of "us" then "them".

"The revolution will not be televised"
Gil Scott-Heron

Edit Money is the problem. If we could figure out a way of working together to accomplish goals, fundamentally change the way we think about society, and consider everyone equal, we might have a starting point.

Until then we are controlled by paper.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Mar 29, 2014 - 09:27pm PT
^^^^ that is why people don't always express their opinions around here. Why must insults be thrown if one is not comfortable with the subject matter?

Nice delete sully
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 29, 2014 - 10:06pm PT
Can we just start with the Blitzer Brick and see how it goes? :-)



Walk away from the system, it's rotten. We can rebuild a real gov't intent on it's real functions, but the former one has to be dismembered


Sorry but that is "dirt for a shirt" stupid. The system does NOT need to be dismembered and destroyed. How UnAmerican to think so. It's not the "System" that needs fixing it is US the citizens who are at fault.

Why do you hate America Blue?.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 10:31pm PT
Sorry but that is "dirt for a shirt" stupid. The system does NOT need to be dismembered and destroyed. How UnAmerican to think so. It's not the "System" that needs fixing it is US the citizens who are at fault.

Why do you hate America Blue?.


-Yep, most voters are stupid. Who the hell re-elects Obama on his record?

Who re-elects Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, or Boxer time and time again? WTF
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 29, 2014 - 10:34pm PT
Compared to that knuckle dragging, born again, anti-science, mouth breathing "flat-earther" troglodyte Bush Jr, President Barack Obama should get re-elected for four terms.

philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 29, 2014 - 10:40pm PT
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 10:48pm PT
In the quest for an ideal system, Philo, you're an obstacle. Especially based on yer last 2 posts, not just based on their content, but your thinking that they had any semblance of relevancy or meaning.

YOU are why we are stuck with stupid f*#king democrats who are complete idiots.

You just vote for D's regardless of their ideals.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 29, 2014 - 10:53pm PT
^^^Mirroring? You go gurl. Come back when your intellectual pubic hair comes in.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Mar 29, 2014 - 11:00pm PT
YOU are why we are stuck with stupid f*#king democrats who are complete idiots.

If democrats are complete idiots, where does that leave Ted Cruz? Is there a category for sub-idiots?
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 29, 2014 - 11:03pm PT
Didn't know I was so omnipotently influential as to be the reason the Blurring proferred. Earlier one of the resident wingnutz said that I, I personally, was responsible for the situation in Crimea. ROTFLMAO.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 11:06pm PT
If democrats are complete idiots, where does that leave Ted Cruz? Is there a category for sub-idiots?

Whats your gripe with Ted?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 11:19pm PT
What's interesting is the fear of Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 29, 2014 - 11:21pm PT
What's interesting is the fear of Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.


Hardly "fear". Revulsion is more accurate.
Are these political candidates that you approve of and/or even admire?
Don't you recognize the insane irony between what you profess about Government and the policies of those who you do support?
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 29, 2014 - 11:29pm PT
bluering asked
What's interesting is the fear of Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.


One of these guys is probably going to be the Republican nominee for President and I look forward to bluering explaining why they are taking so much campaign money from the backers of the New World Order.

Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Mar 29, 2014 - 11:55pm PT
bluering? Do you appreciate history?

From Wikipedia:

13th century



Year

Date

Event

Significance



1202


The Fourth Crusade sacked Croatian town of Zadar (Italian: Zara), a rival of Venice. Unable to raise enough funds to pay to their Venetian contractors, the crusaders agreed to sack the city despite letters from Pope Innocent III forbidding such an action and threatening excommunication.

Siege of Zara was the first major Crusade's action and the first attack against a Catholic city by Catholic crusaders.



1204


Sack of Constantinople during the Fourth Crusade.

Considered to be the beginning of the decline of the Byzantine Empire.



1205


Battle of Adrianople. The Bulgarians under Emperor Kaloyan defeat Baldwin I.

Beginning of the decline of the Latin Empire.



1206


Genghis Khan was elected as Khagan of the Mongols and the Mongol Empire was established.

The Mongols would conquer much of Eurasia, changing former political borders.



1208


Pope Innocent III calls for the Albigensian Crusade which seeks to destroy a rival form of Christianity practiced by the Cathars.



1209


The University of Cambridge is founded.




1209


Founding of the Franciscan Order.

One of the more significant orders in the Roman Catholic church, founded by Saint Francis of Assisi.



1212


Children's Crusade.




1212


Spanish Christians succeed in defeating the Moors in the long Reconquista campaigns, after the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa.

By 1248, only the small southern kingdom of Granada remained under Muslim control.



1215

June 15

The Magna Carta is sealed by John of England.

This marks one of the first times a medieval ruler is forced to accept limits on his power.



1215


Fourth Lateran Council. Dealt with transubstantiation, papal primacy and conduct of clergy. Proclaimed that Jews and Muslims should wear identification marks to distinguish them from Christians.




1216


Papal recognition of the Dominican Order.




1219


Serbian Orthodox Church becomes autocephalous under St. Sava, its first Archbishop.



1227


Genghis Khan dies.

His kingdom is divided among his children and grandchildren: Empire of the Great Khan, Chagatai Khanate, Mongolian Homeland, and the Blue Horde and White Horde. (Which would later become the Golden Horde.



1237–1240


Mongol invasion of Rus' resumes.

Causes the split of Kievan Rus' into three components (present day Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, greatly effects various regions of raided lands in other parts of Europe; Golden Horde formed.



1257


Founding of the University of Paris.




1257


Provisions of Oxford forced upon Henry III of England.

This establishes a new form of government-limited regal authority.



1258


Siege of Baghdad

Mongols (the Ilkhanate) ensure control of the region; Generally considered the end of the Islamic Golden Age.



1272-73


The Ninth Crusade occurs.

Considered to be the Last Major Crusade to take place in the Holy Land.



1273


Rudolph I of Germany is elected Holy Roman Emperor.

This begins the Habsburg de facto domination of the crown that lasted until is dissolution in 1806.



1274


Thomas Aquinas' work, Summa Theologica is published, after his death.

Is the main staple of theology during the Middle Ages.



1279


Battle of Yamen.

Marks the end of the Song Dynasty in China, and all of China is under the rule of Kublai Khan as the emperor.



1282


Sicilian Vespers. Sicilians massacres Angevins over a six-week period, after a Frenchman harassed a woman.

Would mark a two decade period of war, and peace treaties between mainly between Aragon, Sicily, and the Angevin.



1296


Edward I of England invades Scotland, starting the First War of Scottish Independence.



1297


The Battle of Stirling Bridge.

William Wallace emerges as the leader of the Scottish resistance to England.



1298


Marco Polo publishes his tales of China, along with Rustichello da Pisa.

A key step to the bridging of Asia and Europe in trade.



1299

July 27th

The Ottoman Empire is founded by Osman I.

Becomes longest lasting Islamic Empire, lasting over 600 years into the 20th century.


Late Middle Ages

Further information: Late Middle Ages

14th century



Year

Date

Event

Significance



1307

Friday, October 13th

The Knights Templar are rounded up and murdered by Philip the Fair of France, with the backing of the Pope.

Hastens the demise of the order within a decade.



1307


Beginning of the Babylonian Captivity of the Papacy during which the Popes moved to Avignon.

Begins a period of over seven decades of the Papacy outside of Rome that would be one of the major factors of the Western Schism.



1310


Dante publishes his Divine Comedy.

Is one of the most defining works of literature during the Late Middle Ages, and among the most recognizable in all of literature.



1314


Battle of Bannockburn.

Robert the Bruce restores Scotland's de facto independence.



1325


The Aztecs found the city of Tenochtitlan.

This would be the epicenter and capital of the Aztec kingdom for nearly 200 years until the Siege of Tenochtitlan led by Hernán Cortés.



1328


The First War of Scottish Independence ends in Scottish victory with the Treaty of Edinburgh-Northampton and de jure independence.




1333


Emperor Go-Daigo returns to the throne from exile, and begins the Kenmu restoration.

The Kamakura Shogunate comes to an end, and the Kenmu Restoration only lasts a few years before the Ashikaga Shogunate begins.



1337


The Hundred Years' War begins. England and France struggle for a dominating position in Europe and their region.

The war will span through three/four different war periods within a 116 year period.



1346

August 26th

Battle of Crécy.

English forces led by Edward III and Edward, the Black Prince defeat the French forces of Philip VI despite being outnumbered at least 4 to 1, with the longbow being a major factor in favor of England. Also considered to be the beginning of the end of classic chivalry.



1347


The Black Death ravages Europe for the first of many times. An estimated 20% - 40% of the population is thought to have perished within the first year.

The first of many concurrences of this plague, This was believed to have wiped out as many as 50% of Europe's population by its end.



1347


The University of Prague is founded.

It its the oldest Czech and German-Speaking University in the world



1368


The fall of the Yuan Dynasty. Its remnants, known as Northern Yuan, continued to rule Mongolia.

The breakup of the Mongol Empire, which marked the end of Pax Mongolica.



1370


Tamerlane establishes the Timurid Dynasty.

During this 35 year period, Tamerlane would ravage his fellow Islamic states such as the Golden Horde and the Delhi Sultanate in order to accomplish his goal of a restored Mongol Empire.



1378


The Western Schism during which three claimant popes were elected simultaneously.

The Avignon Papacy ends.



1380


Prince Dmitry Donskoy of Moscow led a united Russian army to a victory over the Mongols in the Battle of Kulikovo.




1380


Chaucer begins to write The Canterbury Tales.

Chaucer's greatest work, and one of the foundations towards the formation of the Modern English language



1381


Peasants' Revolt in England.

Quickest-spread revolt in English history, and the most popular revolt of the Late Middle Ages.



1381


The Bible is translated into English by John Wycliffe.

First print published in English (Vulgate)



1386

October 18-19th

The University of Heidelberg is founded.

It is the oldest university in Germany.



1389

June 28th

Battle of Kosovo in Serbia.

This was in many respects the decisive battle between the Turks, led by Sultan Murat, and Christian army, led by the Serbs and their duke Lazar. The battle took place in Kosovo, the southern province of the Medieval Serbian Empire. After this battle Turkish empire continued to spread over the Balkans, to finally reach Vienna.



1392


Joseon Dynasty founded in Korea.

Becomes longest reigning Korean dynasty.



1396


The Battle of Nicopolis.

The last great Crusade fails.




1397


The Kalmar Union is formed.

Queen Margaret I of Denmark unites the Denmark, Sweden, and Norway, and lasts until 1523.



1399


Richard II abdicates the throne to Henry of Bolingbroke, who becomes Henry IV of England.

End of Plantagenet Dynasty, beginning of the Lancaster lineage of kings.


15th century



Year

Date

Event

Significance



1402

July 20th

Battle of Ankara

Bayezid I is captured by Tamerlane's forces, causing the interregnum of the Ottoman Empire.



1405


Chinese Naval Expeditions of Southeast Asia and the Indian Ocean (to Eastern Africa) begins, under the leadership of Zheng He.

This will be the first of seven of the Ming Dynasty-sponsored expeditions, lasting until 1433.



1409


Ladislaus of Naples sells his "rights" on Dalmatia to the Venetian Republic for 100,000 ducats.

Dalmatia would with some interruptions remain under Venetian rule for nearly four centuries, until 1797.



1415


Kingdom of Portugal conquers Ceuta.

Beginning of the Portuguese Empire.



1415

October 25th

Battle of Agincourt. Henry V and his army defeat a numerically superior French army, partially because of the newly introduced English longbow.

The turning point in the Hundred Years' War for 15th Century England that lead to the signing of the Treaty of Troyes signed 5 years later, making Henry V heir of France.



1417


The Council of Constance ends.

The Western Schism comes to a close, and elects Pope Martin V as the sole pope.




1419


Hussite Wars begins after 4 years after the death of Jan Hus in central Europe, dealing with the followers of Jan Hus and those against them.

Although the war was a stalemate (ended around 1434), it was another factor that[clarification needed] between the Catholics and Protestants before the Protestant Reformation.



1429


Joan of Arc lifts the siege of Orléans for the Dauphin of France, enabling him to eventually be crowned at Reims.

The battle at Orléans is the first of many which ultimately drive the English from continental Europe.



1431


Trial and execution of Joan of Arc.

Death of the woman who helped turned the Hundred Years' War in favor of the French over the past two years.



1434


The Medici family rises to prominence in Florence.

This ushers in a period of significance of the Medici's, such as bankers, popes, queens (regents) and dukes, throughout Europe (mainly Italy, especially the Florentine Republic), over the next three centuries.



1439


Johannes Gutenberg invents the printing press.

Literature, News, etc. becomes more accessible throughout Europe.



1442


Battle of Szeben

Third significant victory for the Hungarian forces led by Janos Hunyadi over the Ottoman forces.



1444

November 10th

Battle of Varna

Final battle of the Crusade of Varna; Ottomans are victorious over the Hungarian-Polish armies, and Władysław III of Poland dies.



1453


Constantinople falls to the Ottoman Turks.

End of the Byzantine Empire (or Eastern Roman Empire to some); Constantinople becomes capital of Ottoman Empire.



1453


The Hundred Years' War ends.

England's once vast territories in France is now reduced to only Calais, which they eventually lose control of as well.



1455

May 22

Battle of St. Albans

Traditionally marks the beginning of the War of the Roses.



1456


Siege of Belgrade

Major Ottoman advances are halted for 7 decades, last major victory for Hunyadi.



1459


Smederevo falls under the Turks/Ezio Auditore is born.

Marks the end of the Medieval Serbian Empire.



1461


The Empire of Trebizond falls to the Ottoman Turks.

Last Roman outpost to be conquered by the Ottomans.



1467–1477


Ōnin War takes place in Japan.

First of many significant civil wars between shogunates that would continue for another century during the Muromachi period.



1485


Thomas Malory composes Le Morte d'Arthur

Perhaps the best-known work of Arthurian literature in English.



1485

August 22nd

Battle of Bosworth Field.

Richard III dies in battle, and Henry Tudor becomes king of England; last shift of Houses/kingship during the War of the Roses.



1487

June 16

Battle of Stoke.

Marks end of the War of the Roses.



1492


Reconquista ends.

Marks end of Moorish/Muslim rule within Iberian Peninsula; Unification of Spain and Portugal, respectively.



1492


Christopher Columbus reaches the New World.

Age of Discovery into the New World begins.


1492-1499

Events between the traditional end of the Middle Ages in 1492 and the beginning of the 16th century:



Year

Date

Event

Significance



1494

June 7

Spain and Portugal sign the Treaty of Tordesillas and agree to divide the World outside of Europe between themselves.

Pope's ruling will lead to the division of Brazil and Spanish America, as well as the formation of the Spanish Philippines and Portuguese colonies in India and Africa.



1494—1559


The Italian Wars.

Italian Wars will eventually lead to the downfall of the Italian city-states.



1497


Vasco da Gama (Spanish) begins his first voyage from Europe to India and back.

Vasco da Gama was the first European to sail directly to Eastern Asia from Europe.



1499


Ottoman fleet defeats Venetians at the Battle of Zonchio.

The first naval battle that used cannons in ships.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 30, 2014 - 12:32am PT
So what is wrong with Rand Paul or Ted Cruz again?

I hear no substance. Just bullshit!
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Mar 30, 2014 - 12:38am PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 30, 2014 - 12:45am PT
bluering complained
So what is wrong with Rand Paul or Ted Cruz again?

I hear no substance. Just bullshit!

Yeah here let me make a huge effortpost for you to pretend is just "spin" like usual. Howabout if you actually take 30 seconds to find some information for yourself. You have the whole internet at your fingertips...except the only sources you think are credible bend over backwards to extol the great deeds of the Pauls ensuring that you will never creep out of the socialist-proof tinfoil hat that you've made for yourself.
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Mar 30, 2014 - 12:52am PT
^^

& if u don't eat the cookie it doesn't come true!
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 30, 2014 - 01:07am PT
Enough of this "Republicans are wrong about everything" derail. Bluering, get us back on track with a story about how you became a Sovereign Citizen and why we should all follow your lead. And be specific. No more of this "because I love America" garbage. Give us the details.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 30, 2014 - 01:08am PT
Brennan, aren't cookies palliative? Or are they beyond the palliative?
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 30, 2014 - 03:11am PT
NWO some of your questions are worth asking but you are rivaling my thespian-minded 6 year old daughter for meladrama. Why is water flouridated? Why is it chlorinated? Same friggin answer.

The lack of dramatic difference between one administration and another speaks more to the behemoth of our military-industrial complex, the conservative nature of our politics and the desperate fear of our leaders for being blamed for another terrorist attack than anything else. There is also the nature of everything to settle in to the way it always has been. Affecting change is extremely difficult.

*edit* Jesus I was seriousposting there for a minute. Why are we spraying the sky with chemicals? Your article is entirely hypothetical! God damn that is stupid.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 30, 2014 - 08:36am PT
COME ON SHEEPLE!
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Mar 30, 2014 - 10:27am PT
What I don't see, is any change from one administration to the next.
We're always at war, invading one country or other.
I see a growing police state, and an increasingly dismal economy.


Amy Goodman just posted an OpEd about the Obmana administration being the most secretive and least transparent ever. Amazingly, Obama just endorsed our invasion of Iraq!


Bluey, what is good about Ted Cruz?

A short video:

[Click to View YouTube Video]


A little more:

[Click to View YouTube Video]


Even the first 5 minutes of this are eye opening:

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 30, 2014 - 10:49am PT
Amazingly, Obama just endorsed our invasion of Iraq!

and here I thought I was well read

go a link or two on that?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Mar 30, 2014 - 10:59am PT
Obama, in his speech, noted his own opposition to the war, but went on to defend its mission.

"We did not claim or annex Iraq's territory. We did not grab its resources for our own gain," Obama argued.


link: Obama Defends Iraq Invasion

Defends vs. endorses, perhaps a stretch, perhaps not.


Since March 2003, a series of executive orders by Bush, UN documents, and regulations and orders issued by Iraqi Proconsol Paul Bremer have put the U.S. in absolute control of the state of Iraq, its oil industry and monies, all while lifting barriers to repatriating profits.
The largest contracts have gone to corporations like Halliburton, Bechtel, and Fluor, which are big contributors to the Republicans and now enjoy oversight of their Iraq activities by former executives who worked for the Bush administration. Furthermore, Bush has given the corporate victors the ultimate protection: indemnifying them from liability for any and all activities related to Iraqi oil.
To top it all off, the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq used money from oil sales to help pay for the counterinsurgency campaign. So not only are U.S. corporations reaping billions off the conflict in sweetheart deals with legal impunity, but Iraqis are being forced to pay for the very war waged against them.
The government of Iraq continues to pour portions of the profits from its renewed oil industry into its accounts at the Fed in New York, called the “Oil Proceeds Receipts Account” that serves as a cash reserve for the Iraqi Central Bank. April, 2011 the Iraqi government informed the UN security council about a new account it is setting up with the Fed to replace the Development Fund for Iraq account established at the beginning of the war.
December last year, Baghdad and Arbil have "agreed" on accumulation of Kurdish oil revenues in an account, which was opened in US bank JPMorgan.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 30, 2014 - 11:05am PT
Bluey, what is good about Ted Cruz?

Well, I was going to say, "What's wrong about him?", but then we'd be going in circles.

He appears to be a strict Constitutionalist. Hard core. He appears to be very conservatively principled. He sticks to his convictions even when his party elders tell him "no".

He actually appears to care about the average person, not the party. I think he has demonstrated this.

As a former prosecutor he knows the law. He uses guns and hunts. And he's a good family man.

Oh, and he doesn't really drone on about gays, abortions, or birth control.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Mar 30, 2014 - 11:15am PT
He actually appears to care about the average person, ...

Unless that average person happens to be a woman.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 30, 2014 - 11:20am PT
Unless that average person happens to be a woman.

Yeah, I hear he beats his wife and 2 daughters on a regular basis. Deprives them of precious birth control and parades them around in hijabs.

EDIT: I think he's officially running

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUzMQMhq7Id0Y_wSDA_CJdGg&v=q8Fk5Ga6wCM#t=62

A part of me would like to see him stay in the Senate though....

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 30, 2014 - 11:49am PT
And he's against affordable health care for Americans...cool...
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 30, 2014 - 12:39pm PT
And he's against affordable health care for Americans...cool...


Yeah, and he wants people to just die, right?

I think the majority of Americans polled stand with Ted with regards to the "Affordable Care Act". It's a cluster-f*#k.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Mar 30, 2014 - 12:47pm PT
Bluey, before the implosion of the financial system (via the housing market), what was the #1 cause of bankruptcy in America? (Hint: medical bills)

And why is Cruz against a women's right to choose on pregnancy? No birth control, no abortion. What a guy.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 30, 2014 - 12:49pm PT
Bluey, before the implosion of the financial system, what was the #1 cause of bankruptcy in America?

Poor business plan?

And why is Cruz against a women's right to choose on pregnancy? No birth control, no abortion. What a guy.


Is he?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Mar 30, 2014 - 02:54pm PT
A1: No.
A2: Yes.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 30, 2014 - 03:27pm PT
Chewybacca

Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
Mar 30, 2014 - 05:36pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 30, 2014 - 08:08pm PT
Why do you people always dwell on the insignificant sh#t like abortion, birth control, and gay rights?

Is that really a f*#king issue?? This is another reason I dig Ted, he knows what's important.
Sanskara

climber
Mar 30, 2014 - 08:14pm PT
People's rights,

Such a small little insignificant detail!

Omg are you kidding me....

F*#king Christ if that is the desired mentality we as a society are heading towards and or becoming. If so I say find a way to bring death to every single one of our rotten human good for nothing asses in one fell swoop like the dinosaurs as we don't deserve this gift one little bit.

Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Mar 30, 2014 - 08:15pm PT
...the insignificant sh#t like abortion, birth control...

This is very significant to women (and men too).
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 30, 2014 - 10:48pm PT
O.k., Crimpe, spread your legs and allow a man to introduce semen into your vaginal cavity, Why should the State or Federal gov't have any business in this?

Why is birth control a function of the State? It's a personal decision, a "choice". Isn't it?
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 30, 2014 - 11:22pm PT
You are a classless pig Bluey.
And this...
He uses guns and hunts.
Is your real reasoning for thinking pig boi is a good man.
Sanskara

climber
Mar 30, 2014 - 11:57pm PT
Some people are a f*#king disgrace!

Great job selling that right wing republitard bull crap, really really good job. For real keep going please ;)

You are are like bug repellent for potential moderate democratic converts. Clearly Mitt Romney did a fantastic job setting the perfect example for you to run with in your attempt to reclaim the White House in 2016 lol...

F*#king sad sap you just must like any attention you can get?
Sanskara

climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 12:00am PT
This is my brother Darrel and my other brother Darrel and my other brother Darrel.

Eh bohy you suuure gots a perty mouwf Ger hert.....
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 01:36am PT
bluering posted
He actually appears to care about the average person, not the party. I think he has demonstrated this.

As a former prosecutor he knows the law. He uses guns and hunts. And he's a good family man.

Oh, and he doesn't really drone on about gays, abortions, or birth control.

Doesn't drone on about gays, abortions or birth control?

Bluering continued

Why do you people always dwell on the insignificant sh#t like abortion, birth control, and gay rights?

Is that really a f*#king issue?? This is another reason I dig Ted, he knows what's important.

By "you people" I assume you mean "Ted Cruz."

Ted Cruz openly supports restrictive measure on abortion clinics that force them to close and has supported legislation banning support for organizations that support reproductive rights. Go to his Twitter feed and you'll see him crowing about it.

Ted Cruz introduced legislation barring the federal government from recognizing gay marriages: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:SN02024:@@@L&summ2=m&

Ted Cruz is a very active and open opponent of women getting their contraception covered by health insurance as mandated under the ACA and talks about it plenty. Again, see his Twitter feed or just google "Ted Cruz Hobby Lobby."

So what I hear you saying is that you don't pay enough attention to Ted Cruz to know what Ted Cruz is saying or doing. You sound like exactly the kind of person he wants supporting him.

Bluering spewed
O.k., Crimpe, spread your legs and allow a man to introduce semen into your vaginal cavity, Why should the State or Federal gov't have any business in this?

Wow that's a classy post right there, son. And you wonder why you have a tough time understanding women's issues.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 31, 2014 - 08:15am PT
The sad thing is that otherwise good people like Bluey are the target audience of Fox News and right wing AM hate radio and the lies and propaganda they perpetuate.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 31, 2014 - 08:20am PT
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 09:37am PT
I'm not convinced that these are the posts of a "good person." He owes Crimpie an apology.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 31, 2014 - 10:44am PT
I'm not convinced that these are the posts of a "good person." He owes Crimpie an apology.


Crimpie is a smart gal. It was a rhetorical statement. If she took it personally, then I apologize, it wasn't really directed at her personally. Since she is, of course, a woman, I could see how she may be offended. That was not my intent.

My point is that having sex is a personal, intimate "choice". It is NOT the duty of the State to provide you with contraceptives. It is your duty as a responsible adult to police yourself and your sexual proclivities.

It is nice that some healthcare plans provide this free option, but when did this become a right?

Is this really the big political issue facing us right now? Birth control?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 31, 2014 - 11:02am PT
bluering...I think birth control is an important issue...See how many millions live in poverty...rj
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 31, 2014 - 11:23am PT
bluering...I think birth control is an important issue...See how many millions live in poverty...rj


Is lack of birth control really why they are poor? Maybe it's something else.

This is where liberals are wrong, and right-wing conservatives are right. It's a cultural, family-values thing. If people finished high-school, realized that having sex may have consequences, and stayed out of trouble, their lives may be better.

Sounds simplistic, and it is! A cycle of poverty is not hard to escape. It takes will. And when people try to speak out about it they get called 'racists', or un-caring.

Whatever....
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 31, 2014 - 11:39am PT
Bluey, sounds like you've been talking to Bill Cosby. You are right, to a
point, but you know you can't talk like that around here, don't you? But I
must take issue with yer assertion about the state providing birth control.
In all other civilized countries with national health care birth control is
considered part of that system. And if you get knocked up when you're 14
that makes staying in school a lot harder which makes breaking that cycle
even harder. And since when were 14 year olds known for their iron will power
and forebearance?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 31, 2014 - 11:49am PT
Sounds simplistic, and it is!


Yeah gawdammit, if only people would finish high school and love Jesus and family values then everything would be perfect!

They even have guns! Why aren't they smart and free and prosperous?!
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Mar 31, 2014 - 11:51am PT
We are without question at the beginning of a mass extiction event due to overpopulation, accepted by most biologists worldwide as fact. Why worry about contraception?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Mar 31, 2014 - 11:52am PT
This is another reason I dig Ted, he knows what's important.

You mean besides putting women under his boot, Ted think it's important to let the "free market" do what it needs? Like rolling back all regulations so that the job creators can go on doing the good work. Yep, I guess you don't mind out-of-control industry.

Instead of being vague Bluey, why don't you name something good your God-loving politician has done.

Oh, that's right you did. He likes guns and hunts.



!~~~!

More gibberish from Bluey:

It's a cultural, family-values thing. If people finished high-school, realized that having sex may have consequences, and stayed out of trouble, their lives may be better.

You, my friend, are one ignorant person.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 31, 2014 - 12:23pm PT
And if you get knocked up when you're 14
that makes staying in school a lot harder which makes breaking that cycle
even harder. And since when were 14 year olds known for their iron will power
and forebearance?


Why did this not happen so much in the past? And when it did, how did they make it work?

This is a recent trend, a result of several things. All of which could be fixed with personal responsibility and accountability.

And yeah, I'm ignorant. Stupid right-winger.

We should all be able to do whatever we want, and when we make bad choices we should have the State help us out, or blame other responsible people for our problems. Or scream "racist".

EDIT:
We are without question at the beginning of a mass extiction event due to overpopulation, accepted by most biologists worldwide as fact. Why worry about contraception?


Wait, I thought it was Global Warming, or Climate Change I was supposed to be worried about. I'm so uninformed....
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 31, 2014 - 12:44pm PT
I'm so uninformed


Hey congrats man you finally got one right.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 31, 2014 - 12:45pm PT
Why did this not happen so much in the past?

First, let me say I've never called you stupid and I won't. I'm sure you're not.
You're also not 1/10th as rude as some others here. As for your question,
that could be a whole other thread and I don't see it as germane to the
question of whether birth control should be covered by the ACA. The fact
is young girls do get pregnant these days and it winds up costing all of us
in the end. Birth control is cheap, like me. Leave the moralizing to the
girls and their mothers.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 31, 2014 - 12:52pm PT
The concept of "Birth Control" is an anathema to Neo-Con types unless it is being forced on 3rd world nations who have too many babies. They will defend to the death a Fetus's right to be but turn their cold shoulders to the babies and mothers of America.

Why is the only form of population control acceptable to Conservatives all out war?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 31, 2014 - 01:23pm PT
The fact is young girls do get pregnant these days and it winds up costing all of us in the end.


Sadly, true.

Birth control is cheap, like me. Leave the moralizing to the girls and their mothers.


I have no problem with people using BC, my wife used to, but she stopped for medical reasons. Now I'm responsible for BC.

I will leave the moralizing to mothers and daughters when I am not asked to spend tax-dollars for their poor choices. It's not a huge issue. I'm not sure how we got down this road.

My original point was that BC should be a personal choice and responsibility. Having that 'slut' Sandra Fluke bitch and whine about having to spend so much money on BC is a joke, and a distraction from real problems we face. It's not my problem, buy some condoms or something, they're cheap!

Or, heaven forbid, tell the guy who is getting ready to f*#k you, "You buy the rubbers!".

It is really that simple.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Mar 31, 2014 - 01:31pm PT
It's a cultural, family-values thing. If people finished high-school, realized that having sex may have consequences, and stayed out of trouble, their lives may be better.


Bluey, I'm sorry I said you were ignorant. My bad.


I agree with you, more people should finish high-school, and more folks should stay out of trouble. These are large problems that face our society (you know, we do lock up a fairly large percentage of our population), and ones that I believe our politicians should address.

So, your man Ted, how does he address this problem? Other than cutting the funding for public education, how do his goals align with helping the average man?
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 31, 2014 - 01:33pm PT
Bluey are you opening your mouth or just changing shoes?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 31, 2014 - 02:18pm PT
Sandra Fluke is a Slut??

Yes, most likely.

She spends too much money on BC?

Apparently not enough, she wants me to chip in for her choices. Doesn't she have a law degree? WTF?
dirtbag

climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 02:23pm PT
Like the Taliban, American conservatives are threatened by strong women and especially, their sexuality.

Ms. Fluke is actually married, btw.


bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 31, 2014 - 02:51pm PT
Ms. Fluke is actually married, btw.

Cool, hopefully he's helping her out with her BC. Apparently she needs it.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 31, 2014 - 03:01pm PT

well, i object to men getting their Viagra paid for with my taxes

I object to my taxes going to men getting prostate cancer treatments, cheaper to just remove it, why would I care if they can't ejaculate anymore

sexuality is private, and should not be included in healthcare plans

people should be adults and be responsible, stop having sex on my tax money

I am with Bluering on this

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 31, 2014 - 03:05pm PT
people should be adults and be responsible, stop having sex on my tax money

I am with Bluering on this

Sweet!!!
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 03:56pm PT
bluering misogynized
Having that 'slut' Sandra Fluke bitch and whine about having to spend so much money on BC is a joke,

Threads like this are awesome because it gives posters like bluering the opportunity to just cut loose. "There's no war on women, I just think that women who calmly assert that contraception should be a basic part of healthcare coverage are sluts!"

The Stand Your Ground thread had most of the major conservative posters on this site cheerleading for a guy who turned out to be cribbing posts directly from Stormfront's website. You know who the real racists are? People who see a white supremacist speak his mind and think "yeah man, that guy said what I was thinking!"

Never mind that paying for birth control actually reduces the overall cost of healthcare, thus saving literally everyone money, or that it actually reduces the number of abortions performed or even that millions of women take oral contraception for medical reasons having nothing to do with being sexually active. Those are all just liberal tricks to discredit your kneejerk, uninformed opinions!

bluering continued
Or, heaven forbid, tell the guy who is getting ready to f*#k you, "You buy the rubbers!".

It is really that simple.

This is a guy who truly understands the world we live in.


You didn't respond to a single one of my points about Ted Cruz. Who drones on and on about birth control? You do apparently. Too funny.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Mar 31, 2014 - 04:45pm PT
What happened?

What have I missed?

No, please don't tell me, now that I think about it.

I want to remain ignorant. It is bliss.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 31, 2014 - 04:48pm PT
Blue agreed that Ms. Fluke is a slut. What a class act.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 31, 2014 - 06:29pm PT
Blue agreed that Ms. Fluke is a slut. What a class act.

Yes I did. I'm on record. I think SHE put herself on record BTW.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 07:15pm PT
I can see why bluering thinks birth control is unnecessary. If he ever approached a legitimate woman in a romantic situation I'm pretty sure she has a natural way of shutting the whole thing down.
Sanskara

climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 07:45pm PT
HDJ

I just choked on my dinner a little.

Good on yah!

HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 09:02pm PT
I'm glad someone got the reference.
Sanskara

climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 09:16pm PT
Yeah normally the same kinda sociopath that does not consider date rape rape....
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 31, 2014 - 10:00pm PT
Bluesky, did you stop calling your wife a slut after she transferred the solemn Catholic responsibility for birth control to you ?


I knew that dropping an s-bomb would get the usuals all up in arms.

Jimmy, are you calling my wife a slut? (Two can play the victim game).

Define slut. or should I, because I used the term? It is a woman who has sex freely with many different anonymous acquaintances.

My wife does not qualify. And she regularly reads all this bullsh#t. You make it sound like my wife would disagree with me, and I'm a mysogynist. She agrees with me about 90% of the time. The other 10% she is just wrong about, but hey, that's marriage.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 31, 2014 - 11:17pm PT
Put whatever icing on the cake you call your bleatings Steve.

You still owe a genuine apology to Crimpergirl for your brutal arrogance posted up thread. Paraphrasing what you think someone else may have in mind while presuming who they are, should just make you feel ashamed and regretful.

You used to have a higher level of humanity in your posts

i thought I already offered my thoughts AND apologies. See upthread, dickhead.

And while I don't expect you to apologize for implying my wife was a slut, can you at least do your f*#king homework before you accuse me of insensitivity? I am a very insensitive person. But I occasionally apologize if feelings get hurt that were unintended.
MisterE

climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 11:38pm PT
Negative threads = butt-hurt = small thinking
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Apr 1, 2014 - 12:02am PT
Even the virgin Mary got pregnant by somebody she wasn't married to....
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Apr 1, 2014 - 12:03am PT
bluering
You make it sound like my wife would disagree with me, and I'm a mysogynist.


Guys I can't be a misogynist because a woman agrees with me.
landcruiserbob

Trad climber
PUAKO, BIG ISLAND Kohala Coast
Apr 1, 2014 - 03:03am PT
Nothing matters except who's breeding the most.....

Look at the Spanish American war for example, in reality we just won a battle, they won the war by out breeding the U.S. It took 170 yrs but they won. The only solution now is interbreeding....

hahaha


rg
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