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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Mar 29, 2014 - 12:07am PT
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I just thank my lucky stars I climbed in the 1950s before any of this was even thought of. Such simple times were a blessing.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Mar 29, 2014 - 02:48am PT
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Elcapinyoazz, So much fuss and judgement about how people choose to enjoy themselves when no inherent harm is done. Been to a couple and got to hang with some friends and "legends"; around a fire, in a hotel room, and on the cliffs. Had a good time, heard some great stories and tall tales, learned some useful things, and made some new friends. There's all kinds of ways of enjoying it out there. Most of the time I prefer a more solitary experience, but community can be fun, too.
PS Only been to the Syndicato/Granite Mountain and Oakdale festivals, but I can vouch for Grossman and Mimi putting together great events!
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Mar 29, 2014 - 03:02am PT
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^^^ +1,
I ve been to a bunch! From Cali to Wyoming.
I even beat Conrad A. in a grip pulling contest at RRR.
I think it's a good way for the merchandisers to get a bunch of people psyched on there products. What other ideas for promos do you have for them to push products? Maybe the Super Bowl halftime show.
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bergbryce
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Mar 29, 2014 - 03:05am PT
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I feel ya. It's spring break week for CA community colleges.
That crag list is out of control. I recall not even 6 or 7 years ago the crag list for the red rock rendezvous was small and acceptable and really easy to work around. That is not a small impact in terms of number of crags that are going to be gang TR'd, not to mention the camping. Blah.
Go find solitude, blah blah blah... yeah yeah, we can all do that. That doesn't change the fact these huge groups change the character of a climbing area significantly during and after the fest.
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Rankin
Social climber
Greensboro, North Carolina
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Mar 29, 2014 - 11:27am PT
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Never been to one and have no interest. I got into climbing because I was basically a loner in high school, and at the time climbing was not a spectator sport. It was shrouded in romance and mystery for me. But a lot of people are different and love the social aspect. Here are a some images from the New River Rendezvous that I ripped from the internet. It seems more about partying than climbing, but everyone seems to be having fun.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 29, 2014 - 11:41am PT
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Some festivals produce noteworthy results. Proceeds from the Ouray Ice Festival makes it possible to employ three people to got out nightly and turn on, adjust and maintain the sprinkler system.....and then go out again in the morning to turn the system off, all free of charge.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Mar 29, 2014 - 01:25pm PT
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Never attended a climbing festival, but i think its a great thing for the folks that enjoy it. Each to their own, but then again why pass up a opportunity to put folks down because youre so much cooler. Ive climbed in Red Rocks when the festival was on, and all I can say is if you cant find routes or locations where the Rendevous folks are not, then youre not climbing hard enough or hiking far enough. Look at it as a opportunity to get on routes you might not normally do. But way easier to whine about it all from the safety of your keyboard. The same folks that hold these festivals are many times the same people that spend their time fighting for climbing access and resonable rules regarding bolting, closures. etc.
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fluffy
Trad climber
Colorado
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Mar 29, 2014 - 01:31pm PT
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Why wouldn't they fight for access and the right to bolt?
There's money to be made.
Whoring out of the local crag. Win-win for all involved!
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2014 - 01:57pm PT
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youre not climbing hard enough or hiking far enough...way easier to whine about it all from the safety of your keyboard.
Atta boy Studly, you tell us! I just can't climb hard enough, and I should have to hike for 4 hours to mentor my kids because a commercial enterprise is taking up 37 crags. No sh#t, read that again THIRTY SEVEN!!!! crags.
It's all so easy to tell people to just go hike all day and not enjoy anything on those THIRTY SEVEN different crags from the safety of your keyboard.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Mar 29, 2014 - 02:01pm PT
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I'm confused. If everyone is so into adventure and solitude why would you climb somewhere that is popular enough to attract a festival in the first place?
I've never been to one but I bet it could be fun!
Climbed in a popular spot once and ended up with another party on the same route so I didn't go back. No big deal, they were having fun and probably nice people.
On the other hand if RR is you local area it's probably frustrating. For a little bit and only in certain spots.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2014 - 02:07pm PT
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only in certain spots
Calico Basin/Red Springs
1) Moderate Mecca
2) Kraft Boulders
3) Cannibal Crag
4) Jabba the Hut
5) Riding Hood Wall
6) Dickies Cliff
7) Gnat Man Wall
8) 3rd class above Moderate Mecca
9) Cowlick Crag
10) Cut Your Teeth Crag
11) The Fox
12) Hide and Seek Crag
13) Third Class below Reptile Rock
First Pullout
1) Civilization Crags
2) The Hamlet
3) Iron Man Wall
4) The Fixx Cliff
5) The Oasis
6) Tuna and Chips Wall
7) Newcastle Crag
8) UItraman Wall
9) Aquifer
10) Viagra Tower
11) Scramblers Wall
Second Pullout
1) The Magic Bus
2) Black Corridor
3) Hunter S. Thompson Dome
4) Meet-Up Wall
5) USS Crag
Sandstone Quarry
1) Front Slab/Fender Bender
2) Wake Up Wall
3) Chrysler Crack
Willow Springs
1) Outhouse Wall
2) Black track Area
3) Ragged Edges Area
4) Tonto Area
5) Case Face
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overwatch
climber
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Mar 29, 2014 - 02:14pm PT
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For the record I totally agree with you. RRR is the bloated whale of guide/schools/festivals
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
Nevada City
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Mar 29, 2014 - 02:18pm PT
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If RR was my local spot I would probably be frustrated too. Being anti social I tend to avoid these things, with the exception of the Facelift and or other specific work projects only. I like to give back, but that does not require a social aspect for me.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Mar 29, 2014 - 03:37pm PT
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Which is worse?
1) Festivals?
B) competitions?
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Mar 29, 2014 - 04:06pm PT
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Its cool they (RR Rendevous) let you know which crags they will be at, so you can go to the 150 other crags that they are not at.
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Greg Barnes
climber
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Mar 29, 2014 - 05:26pm PT
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70 posts whining about a big fun climber party? One where - gasp - climbers actually get to climb on real rock?
Wow. If you're not out climbing, don't you have something better to do? Like argue politics?
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Mar 29, 2014 - 05:31pm PT
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bad time to bump the sushifest thread?
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Mar 30, 2014 - 01:59am PT
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Your's is post #70, and it seems you aren't whining.
Of course he's whining. It's second-order whining. He's whining about the people who are whining. And it doesn't seem as if he bothered to read those 69 posts, because not everyone who posted is whining. But now I, who was innocent of the charge of first-order whining, am, by virtue of this response, guilty of third-order whining; whining about the whining about the whining.
Ever use a word so much it suddenly loses all meaning and even stops sounding like a word? That just happened to me. I'd like to whine about it, but have lost the vocabulary to do so.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Mar 30, 2014 - 02:08am PT
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It seems that a festival has actually been started here!
I propose we call it whinefest!
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