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anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 27, 2014 - 09:12am PT
In case you don't know: TMI = Too Much Information

I made some poops yesterday, after 4-5 days! These colase pills do help.

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climber
north fork
Mar 27, 2014 - 09:38am PT
Woohoo, it's a small victory, but a big one too.

So the other day I was riding my motorcycle home and I had to fart. Naturally I stood up and let her rip. Immediately I thought oh no. I couldn't tell if I just sharted and my seat had been baking in the sun, so couldn't tell what that warmth was. I found a place to pull over, took off my gloves and looked around a couple times, then did the reach of shame. Nothing! So I looked around again and double checked and confirmed it was good. Shart avoided, that woulda been a long, shitty, ride home.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2014 - 09:47am PT
The reach of shame...
Been there, done that :/

The lady next to me in my hospital room was very overweight and had 2 legs all busted up. I got to hear her take massive dumps on her bedpan several times. I would just bury my head under the pillow and try not to gag. The first day I was on morphing, I did puke up a little bile. So gross... And it was always diarrhea. *shudder*
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climber
north fork
Mar 27, 2014 - 09:52am PT
LOL yes I actually LOLd. How do you start a conversation after that?
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Mar 27, 2014 - 09:56am PT
i wash my hair twice a month
butt shamefully wipe my asse at every bowel expression.
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:00am PT
if i was stuck and under-prepared in the woods with
a hot and willing chick,
and an impending bowel movement;

i would rather recycle used-and-discarded toilet paper
than i would recycle a used-and-discarded condom.

speelyei

Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:32am PT
Im totally fine with dropping a deuce.

I have done it enough in the woods and desert with no paper that I almost prefer it.

The stalls in the bathroom aren't there for MY benefit... what did people expect I was gonna do in there? I figure the stalls mostly help addicts, shoplifters, people with colostomy bags, and chronic masturbators.

so I guess they helped me once or twice after all...





























TMI
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climber
north fork
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:37am PT
Weege, use that condom and try this for teepee.
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:48am PT
none of this happened without pictures.
speelyei

Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
Mar 27, 2014 - 11:38am PT
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Mar 27, 2014 - 11:40am PT
Once I got poison oak on a hemorrhoid.

Twice I crashed so hard snowboarding that I pooped.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2014 - 12:49pm PT
I don't know why people get all offended by poops and farts
I could talk about period stuff.. that's a little TMI
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Mar 27, 2014 - 02:16pm PT
I dated a woman who fed her plants period blood.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2014 - 02:45pm PT
is that a complement, Hankster?
if so, thanks!

WTF.. I've done it all :(
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Mar 27, 2014 - 03:09pm PT
Come on Hank, we know you have to have some great poop stories. Oh, and I kept the socks.
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climber
north fork
Mar 27, 2014 - 03:16pm PT
First poop post op is a beautiful thing. Here's some email excerpts from October.

"I just pooped. Pretty stoked even if it sounded like I was giving birth."

"Yeah for poop!!! Did it hurt?"

"It hurt my shoulder after every contraction. But I was determined and prevailed. A great victory! Almost took a pic for you butt......"

"Thanks ;)

It was small?!??!?!?!"

"It was five small solid feces."

The End
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Mar 27, 2014 - 03:17pm PT
anita should apologize for this thread.
TwistedCrank

climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
Mar 27, 2014 - 03:17pm PT
You ain't lived til you had a Fleet enema.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Mar 27, 2014 - 03:26pm PT
WTF.. I've done it all :(

Really?
overwatch

climber
Mar 27, 2014 - 03:36pm PT
Ever sh#t so hard your back cracks?
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Mar 27, 2014 - 04:15pm PT
My niece just posted this on FB
It has recently been brought to my attention of a phenomenon I will call "urinal back splash", meaning that due to the shape or possible unclean-ness/un-drainingability of a urinal about 80% of men and boys are walking around with pee pants. So remember this the next time you loving touch your mans knee in the car or at dinner, because his pee knees are your pee hands

I don't think I needed to be aware of that.


As for poop - when Teddy was so sick last winter, he wouldn't eat,nor poop. He had made a decent poop the day before he became ill, but...he had eaten dinner after that, so I knew he had it in him. It was horrible watching him go so many days without eating, or pooping.

When the doc got him back stable, we headed off, and at first stop he went over to the side door of the van to let me know he needed to go out. I set him on the ground and he tottered over to a little cluster of weeds growing out of a crack in the hard desert ground.

I put him back in the van and he dove right for his food dish, then looked at me and gave me an "It's EMPTY?" look. "I haven't eaten in days and IT'S EMPTY????"

He could only have a little at a time, but over the next six hours, he had gotten a decent amount. We stopped at a 24 hour restaurant with a big back parking lot to stay overnight, and we went for his walk.

i could tell that it looked like he was thinking of going, but conditions weren't optimal. Teddy liked a clean bit of land to go poop, and it was pretty obvious that edging of rocks and decorative brush, strewn with paper trash and other garbage had been peed on by any number of dogs and men, and there was plenty dog poop in evidence too. It was gross.

But finally Teddy couldn't continue on his quest. He had to lay down those tracks. He assumed the stance ....nothing.

A little strain and....suddenly the dyke was breached and torrents of murky sludge shot out from his backside like a BP spill under pressure.

It was absolutely disgusting.

And the most beautiful poop I had ever witnessed.

Teddy seemed a little embarrassed, and also gave me a scolding look when I had to walk away from clean-up duty. I tried-really. But there was just no way to do it. I tried scooping nearby gravel and small rocks to cover, but the place was *that* dirty that it would have just been worse.

That night I reported to my FB network and Teddy got a round of applause. I posted "Should I take pictures?" and was quickly told "NO." I guess pictures would have crossed that TMI line.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2014 - 06:32pm PT
This is the TMI thread; doesn't have to be only about poops so long as it's considered inappropriate by normal people.

Poops are fun, like farts. Or we can talk about MacGuyvering some sort of tampon from stuff in the woods, or weird anal leakage after laughing too hard, or, uhhhhhh maybe I should stop
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2014 - 06:34pm PT
Brandon: ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Mar 27, 2014 - 07:01pm PT
hey there say, oh my...

just saw this and 'being out of touch with a lot of modern stuff', well,
i was curious what TMI meant... okay, got it now... :)


as to this and terry and teddy:

And the most beautiful poop I had ever witnessed.

well, i reckon, i just GOT to share this...


this was more under the heading of 'miracle poop' ...

the ol' OLD cat ate through the middle of a long thread, that was attached to a needle, and JUST KEPT ON EATING--threading it all down his throat, NEEDLE and all...

miracle, is: it and the thread, all turned up three days later, after a 'late' exit: all contained in ONE poop...


it was all compacted into a one INCH piece...
(the piece that is ON the paper)...

these photo is mainly AFTER i pulled it out, there were pieces stuck to the thread, but
it was ALL in one piece, AND the LONG NEEDLE... :O

:O

edit for terry:
and yep, the most beautiful, as well...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 27, 2014 - 07:02pm PT
I choked the plumbing with my 2' brown anaconda. About ready to release the pile of babies it left behind. One more cup of coffee, then I go...
Kurt Ettinger

Trad climber
Martinez, CA
Mar 27, 2014 - 07:21pm PT
Excellent! Now I have a place to go for poop discussions when my 5 and 7 year old are not around.

Neebee- Wow! Talk about using up one of the nine lives.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2014 - 08:01pm PT
I want some fish net shorts like that. Hook me up
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 27, 2014 - 08:03pm PT
I drove from SoCal to Flagstaff and met a romantic interest at a party. I had to piss. After brief introductions I hobbled straight to the bathroom and started pissing. The toilet was empty. When I flushed a big turd surfaced and the toilet overflowed. I tried to plunge but it was too late. Talk about AWKWARD.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 27, 2014 - 08:07pm PT
There's a turtle head pokin' right now, in fact.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2014 - 08:10pm PT
I hate dingleberries
Yes women get them too and it's usually my esthetician who tells me about them when I'm getting waxed. So embarrassing
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2014 - 08:26pm PT
As long as there's some 'murican skid marks on them
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Mar 27, 2014 - 08:28pm PT
bidets are the bestest
Sanskara

climber
Mar 27, 2014 - 08:54pm PT
Anita

They have you on some pretty good meds or what?

Careful it's pretty easy to get attached to that stuff ;)
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2014 - 09:11pm PT
Oxycodone and OxyContin
I had my dressing changed yesterday and today I started my strut turns and went to... Work. Give me a break.

overwatch

climber
Mar 27, 2014 - 09:17pm PT
Mechrist
You got scapefloated
Sanskara

climber
Mar 27, 2014 - 09:23pm PT
Strut turns?

Back to work really!
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2014 - 09:34pm PT
no, the struts I need to adjust in order to lengthen.
perhaps a little too TMI for this thread? :/

Sanskara

climber
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:09pm PT
Yikes..

You're my f*#king hero!

Really, I have zero circulation in both my feet right now to the point they are purple and freezing. It's driving me nuts but it seems like nothing compared to having to carry that contraption around with me for the next few months. I thought I was a handycap...

How long do you have that thing on for?

What was the deciding factor for having your surgery. Was the leg length discrepancy creating that big of problems for you, if so what kind?
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:24pm PT
now THAT's TMI!!

j/k
I was wondering why you were shacked up in a hospital. We hear such bad things about Canuck medical care. I'd guess you have to empty your own bedpan.
Or do you empty the one to your left etc all the way around the room?
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2014 - 10:43pm PT
I buzzed the nurses 3 times over an hour to get a bedpan and for pain. Luckily there was a clean bedpan on a chair not far from my bed so gimped over enough to reach and sat on it. What sucked is that I had to hold myself up for what seemed like forever until the nurse showed up to empty it. Good exercise I guess.
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Mar 27, 2014 - 11:52pm PT
all this sharting and stuff...

http://www.metatube.com/en/videos/5463/Spike-and-Mike-Present-s-DOGPILE/

and the return...

http://www.metatube.com/en/videos/5464/Spike-and-Mike-Present-s-DOGPILE-2-The-Return/
wayne w

Trad climber
the nw
Mar 28, 2014 - 05:09am PT
When I was 19 I had two and 1/4 inches of femur removed from the leg Polio affected to the greatest extent, and an 18 inch long rod inserted through my hip. The end of the rod was sticking out of the hip, but under the skin, by perhaps an inch for the next year and a half. This procedure was made necessary because my left leg had the growth centers removed when I was 12, so that the right leg could catch up. It was 3 inches shorter at the time. My orthodpods calculations were just a bit off, and the right leg, instead of growing even with the left, grew a full two inches longer. After the surgery I was hooked up to a hemo vac for 10 days, with my leg packed in ice most of the time. The day they put me in a body cast I tried to poop sort of propped up over a toilet, but no dice. Lots of morphine and a surgical procedure like that one will do that. The next day I finally managed to drop something that resembled a brick, and was easily as hard as one, into a bedpan.

Hope that you are feeling better soon, Anita.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 28, 2014 - 07:09am PT
Anita. I take it you had your knee fixed... Hope it all goes well and you come back twice as strong:) I take it that hospital boredom combined with the pain meds =TMI posts :)

If you want to start a real shitstorm arround here tell us what your total out of pocket ends up being for the surgery and rehab then stand back and listen to the shitstorm while all the stupid mericans rant about how bad socialized health care is......
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Mar 28, 2014 - 08:54am PT
i don't know,
that picture of anita's knee all jacked up,
i'm sorry about that, girl.
you are burly and up for the task, apparently.

that picture, though,
i'd say is NEI, not enough information,
it's like the end of pitch but you just
can't see the anchor and you have to
imagine it,
and then i aim toward my imagination
which is loosely adhered to reality's mountain
so it comes screaming down, right at me,
and igh yell, "IMAGINATION" as i duck out of the
way and it pummels my belayer right in
her lap, luckily my imagination, that day
was light and fluffy and she didn't scream
at the impact, she just giggled.

anita you can cyber-slap me, i deserve it
for this is borderline harrassment
chris you can can me i'll go quietly away
if i've tramped on the border of legitimate conduct,
watch out!

there i go.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2014 - 08:57am PT
wayne: so how did it all work out in the end? was it corrected?

tradman: it's my tibia. I had a double osteotomy which means they went in and broke it in 2 places and inserted all these pins which are attached to an external fixator which I adjust daily. I'm 1 week post-op and no poops in a couple days :(

anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2014 - 09:03am PT
Nowegian: how is this harassment? if you want to know, I will tel.. might do me some good to stop pretending it isn't there. you know how to reach me, if you'd like more details and bloody stapled scar pictures. yuck. this leg is a total write off. even if this correction will allow me to wear high heels, I would never want to show my bare leg ever again, unless I'm surrounded by a bunch of crusty old climbers.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Mar 28, 2014 - 09:05am PT
all i can say to help is Castor oil
Heal up sexy anita!
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 28, 2014 - 09:06am PT
Us crusty old climbers like chicks with scars:) hope your poop comes out ok today;)
speelyei

Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
Mar 28, 2014 - 10:48am PT
There's an unfunny side to poops, too.

I recently quit my new job as a City Cop after less than two years with the department.

I can't believe how many residences have poop in their house, on the floor, carpet, and walls... Animal and human. And you can't tell by the location, exterior, or socio-economic bracket of the owners. Granted, you see it most often in mental health scenarios, but there's plenty of people... families, wading around in sh#t everyday.

Also, scared, drunk, and stoned people crap themselves on a pretty regular basis. It's not pleasant, cleaning some drunks diarrhea out of your patrol car, 3 hours into a 12 hour shift.

Don't even get me started death investigations, or CPS assists. It's too depressing for an overall light thread.

So I contact this transient for a welfare check. And Im telling him about available services and the location of the mission, and that sweet honey smell hits me. I ask dude "hey, do we need to get you to the bathroom?" And he says no. So we're waiting for fire to respond and check his health situation, and the smell is getting worse, and I say "hey, no offense, but did you just crap yourself?" And he says no...
Well, you can see where this is going, just like the old joke...
The Fire guys get there and determine his pants are full (and the guy has hep c), and I say "hey, you told me you didn't have an accident!" And he says "I thought you meant today!".
Dude, I about died laughing.

HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Mar 28, 2014 - 10:55am PT
^^^^^^
Definitely TMI before before coffee and breakfast!

high heels around Crusty Old Climbers
Now what's wrong with that picture?
NADA

signed
COC

PS
seriously too bad about all the knee work. 'long as yer spindles work agin
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 11:53am PT
I checked this post for the first of three times so far today while taking my morning poop...

Those emergency stories are really gross. I can't eat and watch tv in the event they might flash some kinda nasty emergency missing limb type sh#t across the screen. Just the images of the inside of a hospital make me come to an abrupt halt while eating. I could nerve work in the medical field in any way shape or form. I'd be f*#ked if I ever end up in hospital because I could never eat. Not to mention eating hospital food. Not gonna happen unless you knock me the f*#k out and give it to me intravenously.

I pissed myself once as a teenager peaking on like 10 hits of LSD. I was sitting in my bedroom all by myself on this sweet limeish green velvet couch watching as the ceiling became the infinite as I often did. I remember sensing this warm feeling and that it felt really really good! I remember nothing more but that I did nothing and just continued starring at the ceiling not really knowing what it was? Sometime the next day I don't remember exactly when maybe the next week I noticed the couch was either wet or smelled like piss. At that moment I put the pieces together and realized I had pissed myself while peaking and hadn't known it at the time. Good times!

I have another about a friend visiting me in NYC, a bunch of late nights and a bumpy ride to work. It involves actual poop and is actually really funny. I'll save it for later.
speelyei

Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
Mar 28, 2014 - 11:53am PT
I can imagine.

I responded to multiple calls at a local motel, where folks would get a Federal check, prepay a room, and then go on a month long bender. Depressing, disgusting, and exactly as you described.

I used to avoid motels cause I was cheapskate dirt surfer.
Now I avoid them due to really negative associations!

Do you still do EMS work?
speelyei

Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
Mar 28, 2014 - 11:59am PT
My magnum opus, a perfect blend of crap and climbing:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2266550&msg=2266909#msg2266909
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 12:09pm PT
I also avoid motels and even hotels for that exact reasons stated above. Rich people also go on benders and have nasty habits so even fancy hotels are not safe imop.

Also bed bugs and hookers. Both the well to and poor have been know to mingling with both.

I much prefer to just sleep in my car. Always goes over well on climbing trips with partners ne partners as they figure this out about me. Between getting the nasties from knowing what really happens in hotels and then not wanting to eat out for much the same reason plus being vegan I can be a real pain in the ass!
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2014 - 12:11pm PT
mmm hospital food

skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 28, 2014 - 12:12pm PT
You're friggen gnarley Anita. But I can hardly believe you did that to wear high heels...

I've got one leg 28mm shorter than the other, so I'm just curious as to why? No worries either way though. I think the shorter left leg helped me surf goofy foot. Lower center of gravity.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2014 - 12:13pm PT
I know you want more...



I never really pooped myself on drugs or anything, but I've come close to peeing myself because I was too lazy to go pee and having too much fun.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2014 - 12:21pm PT
I have a 4.5cm difference and my ankle was all crooked and causing me a lot of arthritic pain and no flexion, so hiking up/down steep trails that were not switch-backed was very difficult. on the downhill I'd always roll out. plus I had to put lifts in my shoes which threw me off balance.
if all goes well, this procedure will only bring positives.
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 12:35pm PT
Just looking at pics of that food is ruining my morning coffee for real. God forbid I was eating I would has gotten sick as I scrolled down the screen. For real I am not exaggerating or bit.

If I was a wee bit closer I would be happy to bring a fellow ice climber three square edible meals a day. I know when I have been in the hospital I eat one meal a day. The one I can get mom to bring me ;)

Even then I have a bitch of a time eating just being in a hospital. I don't care much for schools or public building of any sort all that much either. Something about hallways with repedative matching doors and flourecent lights gives me the creeps!

That climbing poop story was great. I think most of us that climb a lot have more than one of those stories in the log, the rope part is very very scary being I am payed up injures due to ground fall the result of a faulty device or negligent belayer? I know I have so many Climbing retaliated poop stories I have forgot most of them as it has just become common practice. Even my regular climbing partners have become used to my nasty poop habits.

Having a bowel that requires I empty it at least 3 times before noon every day and alpine starts has sadly made a mess many a place I felt really really bad about!
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Mar 28, 2014 - 12:43pm PT
Whoa Anita, Bionic Woman! Heal up Fast.
I spend a lot of time at sea, which really affects having BMs, making it seem like you're going to poop a rock hard watermelon; the only thing I have ever found that works is Miralax. It is a powder you stick in any beverage, hot or cold, and it really has no texture or flavor and works beautifully. I discovered it when I was on chemo and it was a miracle worker.
Good luck!

Susan
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2014 - 12:53pm PT
drinking milk keeps me regular but not in a good way.

sanskara: where do you live? picky eater eh? I ate the hospital food but just barely. I don't eat meat but didn't make a stink about it. I figure I need protein right now.

I feel a poop coming. wish me luck, y'all
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climber
north fork
Mar 28, 2014 - 12:56pm PT
Pictures Anita to be a true TMI. Good luck.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 28, 2014 - 12:58pm PT
Carefull. THat first one can be murder after a hiatus.

Serious ... I hope this works out for you. The leg and the poop. All the best.
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 01:15pm PT
20 minutes west of Boston.

But I tend to spend 3 days a week living out of my car or at friends homes somewhere between New Paltz and Lyndonville depending on the season.

I would not say I am a picky eater. Probably just more a germaphobe, I'm kinda a clean freak. I can still remember the first time as a kid that I went to a friends house to eat and the inside of the fridge looked like it had not been cleaned in a decade. I then started tAking notice that many people have some pretty nasty sanitary habits. Things have never been the same for me since. I much prefer to just eat at home or out of my own cooler if I can at all help it. I guess I'm kinda quirky as so many of us climbers are. I tend to just think I don't like other people's dirt.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2014 - 01:26pm PT
how do you manage if you're out a weekend or week and there's not much running water and stuff?
I get really grossed out using public showers. won't do it unless I have industrial strength flip fops.

other people's dirt is gross. but I can deal with being dirty/not bathing and eating off dirt for a while. everything out in the woods is way cleaner than city living, imo. I like being a dirty bum. I didn't bathe for 6 days in Joshua Tree!

so it was a false alarm.. just a period fart :/
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 01:36pm PT
I deal the same as you.

I just don't like others people dirt or people whom are not hygienic and or manage their dirt very well. Being dirty in nature feels natural. Having a fridge fool of rotten food or that has not seen a sponge since last year does not seem natural. I'm the type before new food goes in the fridge any old food gets thrown out and the fridge gets a quick wipe. Takes less than 5 minutes!

Actual dirt I don't mind. Or kissing my own dogs I don't mind. But I do tend to give them a bath every other week and brush their teeth once a week. They also never leave my yard so I kinda know where they have and have not been.

It's gross dirt and dirty people or habits I don't like. And yes I know I am a germaphobe. I'll take that over nasty any day lol...
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2014 - 01:47pm PT
dirty fridges are pretty gross
nothing feels better than a clean fridge and when I scrub my sinks.
I think I'm more of a neat freak than germophobe.

do you carry anti-bacterial stuff in a fanny pack when you climb? ;)
Captain...or Skully

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 01:51pm PT
Liquor Is antibacterial right?
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2014 - 01:53pm PT
sure
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 01:55pm PT
I hate that stuff but it's only polite that I disinfect considering I normally poop twice before I even get in a second pitch for the day. I refuse to use the stuff anywhere else though as I think it is adding to antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria so forth and so on. But yes it lives in the brain of my pack in a plastic bag with my T.P. And so e dog poop bags to clean up my mess.

The hike in gets things moving and I dal with it. They normally by the time I am all racked up I either have to poop again. At the very least by the end of the first pitch its normally number three for the day for me.

Oh I got a good poop story give me a minute I gotta go poop first. For real number 4 today and I only got up 4 hours ago...
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Mar 28, 2014 - 02:34pm PT
hey there say, anita514... oh my... did not realize ALL of what was going on... say, please send me an address for to send you card, etc...

get well soon as you can!
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 28, 2014 - 03:00pm PT
Turd has been a lovely nickname for my youngest Rachel(now 14).On a trip to Colorado we explored some caves, for the rest of that road trip her name was Guano. She is, at times the ultimate little sh@t, but very loved.

I am the sh#t.

The manure didn't fall far from the ass.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 28, 2014 - 03:12pm PT
Anita, try jiffypoop from the "make up a lie..." thread. Dingus deals it.

The scars will heal and recede into obscurity better than you can imagine now. Meanwhile you can tear a new one in this forum. Or write poetry. :)
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 03:22pm PT
Ok so,

Myself and a couple other buddies took a two week trip to the Canadian rockies last March for some ice climbing. I think it was like 12 days door to door and we climbed 11 days straight. I think the only day we did not climb was the first travel day as we all arrived in Calgary rather late that night.

Anyway it was the last day of our trip and we had just spent the prior four days or so up on the parkway at the Ramart Creek hostel. If you have never been it in the middle of the woods with no running water with minimal electricity generated via solar. If you like to climb ice I suggest you make it a point to visit sometime. Even the germaphobe in me would not pass up another chance to stay in a heartbeat. F*#k I could live up there in that caretakers cabin for the rest of my life and be very very happy never looking back!

Anyway the plan is to hit the Ghost on our way back to Calgary and the airport. So a friend of a friend from back east that made the move to Calgary many years ago agrees to take us into the Ghost on our final day of the trip. Mind you now one in our party has a flight out at like 8pm this same night. None of us have ever been into the Ghost valley and are thinking no big deal easy peezy right. Anyway we get to like mile marker ten on the access road or something like that and just to the bottom of the big hill and we all look at each other. You can tell we are all thinking the same thing. "I think there is a good chance we don't make our flights tonight guys". Shortly after the big hill we run into our first stuck vehicle and now we are really starting to think who had the bright idea to come in here on our last day, we gotta be to the airport in like 12 hrs. So everyone gets out of the car and our gracious host driver and tour guide extraordinaire has the stuck party pulled out lickidy split. The guy was a real pro! Back in the truck and onward we go. So anyway we make it to our destination get out of the truck and start gearing up. We are all all floored at how beautiful and remote this place is. I am thinking I could pitch a tent and just live here all winter. I bet I could arrange for locals to bring me in food and supplies weekly. I am scheming how I can manage never going back home. For real I was and still am. My first thought is what about a climbing partner, I need a partner crazy enough to live out here all winter with me, how am I gonna find one of those? I can't be the only one this ice obsessed that would really do such a thing. I know I'm not nuts really square people just make me seem they way ;)

Anyway so we head for our climb up into this canyon. In typical fashion I stop two or three times and poop. Being the good steward I am I pick up my mess tie it up nice and neat and deposit it into the brain of my pack. We make it to the base of the climb where I proceed to take another poop and deposit it into my pack. Now the brain of my park has like four wag bags full of my crap in it. It's like really full. I am vegan mind you and I not only poop a lot but I tend to take really large really soft poops ;) We rack up and set off on one of the best days ice climbing we all have ever had.

We make it down just in time we should be able to get outa the Ghost and back to Calgary for our buddies flight although its gonna be tight. We rush back out the canyon and to the truck. We throw our bags in the back of our new buddies truck or rather jeep and we are off to the airport. Half way out of the Ghost this I start getting the occasional whiff of something real nasty. I can't quite figure what it is and just chalk it up to three dudes having been ice climbing for eleven days non having had a proper shower in at least five days. We get out of the Ghost and to our own car and transfer the bags to the rental car. We say goodbye to our new friend and off to the airport we go. Again I am sitting in the back and the whole ride back to Calgary I keep getting this strong poop odor but say nothing. I am thinking maybe one of my friends just has a rank ass or does not wipe very well. For real this is what I am thinking and all I could figure. We make it jot the airport just in the knick of time and get our friend on his 8pm return flight to NY.

My other partner and I head back to hotel near the airport. We unload our bags onto one of those luggage carts. It's about this time I am like ok what the f*#k is the nasty f*#king smell. Anyway I am looking for something I think my phone and kinda in a panic. Not think I thinking I open the brain of my climbing pack and just stick my hand in and start reaching around. All the sudden my hand stops moving and is just frozen suspended in time as my brain and hand piece together what that odor I have been getting all day was. Now frozen half panicked in shock grossed out I done out of the fog that is my brain figuring out my hand is covered in my own poop and realize I am standing on the curb I front of what is a decent hotel. I am thinking f*#k I have just planted my hand squarely in a pile of my own sh#t now what do I do. My wag bags had clearly exploded all over the place inside the brain of my pack at some point during the day. The reality of the situation is this is not just little bit of crap I got on my hand. My hand is literally swimming in sh#t inside my pack. My hand is f*#king covered and I am trying to figure what am I gonna do as I stand half way in the car and half way out families passing buy and my partner wondering why I am not helping load the cart all the sudden.

I quietly announce to my partner what has happened. His face drops and simultaneously his lungs ring out with laughter. I am just standing there kinda panicked kinda grossed out, kinda aggravated thinking what the f*#k am I gonna do. If I take my hand out of this bag it is covered in sh#t and I am for the most part standing in a hotel lobby I can't do that. I can't really continue to help and just walk around with my hand in my backpack as it is heavy and full of gear. What the f*#k am I gonna do. Anyway not sure what we did. I imagine my buddy got me a t shirt and I did the best I could to clean up.

So anyway we make our way into the hotel, then to the elevator to like the bazzillionth floor then down a maze of hallways to our room. It is literally the last room at the end of the last hallway where hotel staff stays and or live. This whole while we are laughing hysterically about what had just ensued and complaining about walking so far to our room. We are standing at the door of the room trying to get the card key to work and I say something like "I can't believe that sh#t exploded in my bag". At this very same moment a middle aged woman and her two young kids open the door to the room next to us to leave. They clearly heard exactly what I had just said and we look at each other like a deer caught in headlights. My partner and I nearly fall to the ground laughing basically in their faces as we enter our room.

I proceed to wash the brain of my bag out in the bathtub. Case in point another reason I don't like hotels.

End of story!

anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2014 - 03:26pm PT
funny. and gross! you climbed in the Rockies? impressive.

I had something kinda similar. I had packed my poop out on Mt Whitney and then got severe sun/snow burn and had to hike out on our 2nd day.
the trip was a wash and somehow I forgot about the wag bag until 2 weeks later in my car, in the summer, driving down to Keene from Montreal.
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo did it stink! but no explosions at least.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Mar 28, 2014 - 03:33pm PT
No, but I've had sh#t that was hard because my back was cracked!

Ditto on that one sista!

Anita, oxycontin can make you say/ post things you wouldn't have if you were sober.

Lol so true Moose. Been there too.

mmm hospital food

Uggg so gross. I could barely touch the stuff at VGH! Gf Strong was so much better.

This was my comment after my first decent poop post surgery.

"I made a giant softball sized projectile fly out my butt today!! It's amazing how much the little things matter when they are taken from you."

Funny thing about that, is i felt it coming, and rang the nurses. It was my favourite nurse who showed up and because i just couldn't get it to happen in the bedpan they put me on the commode.

By the time they got me settled I had to go bad and it just happened!! I think she got about half the bed pan under there. It was so gross and embarrassing and i apologized
profusely for being such an invalid!!

Pooping secrets:

1. Prune juice, 3 times a day. It's gross, i hate it, but i like pooping!
2. Sushi. It may be runny, but better n nutin!
3. stool softeners
4. Mcdonald's chocolate milk shakes (gold!! This works every time for me!)
5. Green stuff. Edibles are better. Watch the drug interactions!!

Get off the oxy's and try something else. Hydromorph contin worked well for me. Try everything until you find what works for you. You shouldn't be in pain. If u are, be nice but squeaky wheel gets the grease. Get more.

You asked in email what happened to me, this sums it up pretty good:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2079402/Sending-Big-Mike-some-good-vibes
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2014 - 03:38pm PT
mike: I am in constant pain. it's the swelling.. the oxy's don't do sh#t unless I'm doubled up on both. then I'm totally out of it.

I am taking colase (stool softener) and so far I had mini pellet poops. better than a big brick, but now it;s a couple days without :(
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Mar 28, 2014 - 03:45pm PT
mike: I am in constant pain. it's the swelling.. the oxy's don't do sh#t unless I'm doubled up on both. then I'm totally out of it.

Yup. Tell em you wanna try something different. The opiates worked great for me and didn't mess me up mentally.
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 03:51pm PT
Careful with OxyContin.

It only takes a few days for your body to become dependent. A couple weeks and it it will be legit hard to get off.

Whatever you do do not, I mean "DO NOT" let anyone convince you to take Suboxone for any reason. Be it to get off the pain meds or help with the pain. Detoxing from the sh#t is 100 times worse than OxyContin or any pain med maybe other than propathol or some crazy sh#t like that. It's harder to kick than heroin. Living on the stuff as is often prescribed turns you into a brain dead zombie lacking motivation to even wipe your ass.

For real don't take the pain meds unless you really really need them. Just suffer it out you will be thankful you did once you have to detox. If you stay on them very long the sh#t reality is suffer now or suffer later. I would take the suffer from surgery any day over that of opioid withdrawals!

Good luck...
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2014 - 03:56pm PT
Can't take anti inflammatories because they inhibit bone growth
So I'm f*#ked
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Mar 28, 2014 - 04:01pm PT
Moose, which opiates did they have you on?

Anita get options it will take you awhile to figure out what's best for you.

Can you ice maybe for swelling?
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 04:02pm PT
You gotta do what you gotta do clearly. Not trying to scare you or anything like that.

However you will understand f*#ked in a whole new light after you have become physically dependent on opiates!

Physical pain like that coupled with thinking you are loosing your f*#king mind hurts like no injury I have ever suffered.

Sh#t is no joke there's a reason why junkies are junkies. Most normal people don't have it in them to endure the pain it takes to detox off them.
overwatch

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 04:36pm PT
No offense and maybe it is just me but sanskara "sounds" like Rokjox

edit: good either way by me. It was more a style of posting thing, lets say an eagerness to share info
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 04:58pm PT
Not him.

Me below on Repentance in my back yard. Cathedral ledge NH. Kinda hard to miss me in my matching neon Mammut orange coat and blue pants. More pics and plenty of people to vouch for me ;)
Not sure why I don't want to be mistaken for RockJock but I just have this feeling I don't.

Sorry Rock

Psilocyborg

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 05:01pm PT
A few years ago, I was riding dirt bikes with my buddys dad in AZ when I ate sh#t into a cactus. My crotch and inner thighs took the brunt of it. There we were, 2 hours from camp, and there was no way in hell I could get back on the bike. Every movement I made my pants and boxers tugged on the needles. I tried to start pulling the needles out myself, but yeah that was no bueno. This crazy mo fo pulled out all those needles right there in the dirt with a pair of pliers. It was difficult for BOTH of us, as you can imagine but we laughed our way through it. Each and every one of those shitz was a demon sent from hell. Each one was like "ok are you ready? Yeah. F*#k. Go."



this just in

climber
north fork
Mar 28, 2014 - 05:04pm PT
Sanskara, I believe you but one more test. Spell Cali and what are your views on wolves?
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 05:05pm PT
You spelt it for me.

And I say kill the f*#king ranchers!

Red neck f*#kers ;)
this just in

climber
north fork
Mar 28, 2014 - 05:12pm PT
Yup he's cleared.
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 05:13pm PT
Why what would his response had been?

Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Mar 28, 2014 - 05:41pm PT
Sh#t is no joke there's a reason why junkies are junkies. Most normal people don't have it in them to endure the pain it takes to detox off them.


All pain killers are addictive.

I'm pretty lucky then i guess. I've been on Hydromorphone for over a year. Started out at 27-31mg's per day, i'm now down to 1mg every three or four days. I have never experience physical pain associated with withdrawal. It has been messing with my disposition lately, and i had a tendency to feel down on off days, but that seems to be sorting itself out too.

Make no mistake they are all dangerous and none of them should be messed with lightly.

They are tools and if you can use them correctly then they can be quite useful.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 28, 2014 - 06:10pm PT
Sanskara. Pretty sure you were on Remission about a month ago when I did Repentance.. Ditto on carefull with those meds Eugene! I had to detox from zanax once years ago and that sucked bad enough.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 28, 2014 - 06:26pm PT
Bull Whack..! rj
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 06:33pm PT
Zanax klonopin all of em are nasty nasty shit! All narcotic slice it how you want...

This guy saiz no thank you!

A healthy diet, regular exercise, staying hydrated, normal and consistent sleep habits will work wonders for most anything that might ail a person. Most just don't try it for long enough to see it really does work!

When that was not enough learning to meditate then taking up yoga and doing both daily made all the difference.

Even now laid up thinking this fractured heel could well be the end of my recreating and recreating is my anti depressant I have a calm like no pill ever provided before.

I can't recreate but I can meditate and practice pranayama. Glad I hurt my foot and didn't sustain a brain injury.

Read this book being I live with chronic pain and have for some time it changed the way I view pain. It also opened up a whole new world of thinking with regard to how the brain registers and interprets, why and what the options for dealing with it are.

http://www.amazon.com/Full-Catastrophe-Living-Wisdom-Illness/dp/0385303122



Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 06:36pm PT
Trad not me.

Did not do Remission this year. Tbh never done it. Pi intended to this year as it just became within my lead pay grade. I missed the direct start conditions by a week or so and decided to wait till it was not all baked. Next season if this dam foot will allow it a seasons goal!

Got Dropline this season in unclimbed brittle glassy scary full on conditions. That was the real prize of my season. I think I placed 9 screws and its a short pitch of ice relatively speaking. Got lots of other 5 and 5+ leads but that one felt like the real deal!

Actually thinking about it that direct start of a Remission has some pretty good potential for a ground fall so maybe I'll wait a couple years before I get on a climb with a high risk of decking and let this foot get better!
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2014 - 07:00pm PT
You guys got me all scared to take my pills now.
I was told that people in pain cannot get addicted to these meds.
I think I'm being hard on myself; it's only been a week... But still. I already have enough problems.

Whoever said outdoors/climbing is their anti-depressant - same here. The scariest part of going into this was not getting my anti-depressant dose every weekend, and not knowing how to deal with it. Maybe the meds are talking, but sometimes the thought of just being alone with me and my thoughts, is terrifying.

Yikes
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Mar 28, 2014 - 07:16pm PT
Don't be scared by these Nancy boys into not popping your prescribed pills. When it's time, taper off and you should be fine. I made the mistake of stopping abruptly after my first hip surgery. I ended up in the ER and admitted for non stop vomiting. Detox, essentially. No fun. Taper. I was out climbing 2 months my hip surgery in September, in part because I followed directions. I agree, Suboxone is no bueno.

I'm wondering, has anyone else experienced a temporary change in gravitational force after dumping a super dense load? Just curious

Fyi, I'm not denying the possibility of addiction. It sucked for awhile because I was a Nancy about it too, thinking I needed it when I didn't. You'll be fine :)
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Mar 28, 2014 - 07:47pm PT
Anita - Good luck with the leg, and if you do have times when you want to dress up, there are cosmetics that can cover scars very well.

As for prescription painkillers - I agree with those who are telling you to be careful. The danger of becoming dependent is not something to be taken lightly. Watched my mother over the years(and that was well before the oxycodone/oxycontin came around)and have seen plenty of people come into the rooms of AA desperate for help.

You sound like a person who can face reality head on, but I can tell you it is a truly sad thing to see a person who never had the story of the average drunk or junkie finding themselves screwed over by what stared out as "doctor's orders." They act like junkies, but don't identify with junkies because they didn't sell themselves or steal to get the fix, didn't live in hovels, didn't get stoned with derelicts. You don't want to find yourself in that predicament, but if you DO discover you are struggling,when it's time the cutting down should be occurring,know that there are people right here on ST willing to provide support.




POOP STORY!


So....I was out climbing with a group of women. The only male in the mix was Teddy. I started to feel symptoms coming on and knew they would not be ignored. It was going to be hours before we would be near a potty, and I'd never make it if I trued to walk out on my own. Plan B had to be put into place.

I found a private spot with a sandy base and....well, you know. Then cleaned up as I would have had it been a Teddy poo. Because I always kept a stash of bags for Teddy, I was even able to double bag. THANK GOD, because it was no dainty doo. Embarrassingly undainty.

Anyway - all said and done and back to climbing. When it was time to leave, of course I intended to pack it out,and I had the bag in hand. There came a point that I had to lift Teddy up and over a big section of rocks, so I placed the poop bag in a little nook on the top of the rock, and then lifted Teddy to the top. I told him to stay while I scrambled up and over and then to the other side. Then lifted Teddy down.

And completely forgot about the bag of poop.

Getting back to the car, one of the other women came up and handed what she THOUGHT was Teddy's bag to me, and made a very nice remark. She had understood I simply forgot, that it wasn't intentional. But of course it WOULD have been bad to leave it there,and so she carried it out....

When she handed me that bag, and said "You forgot Teddy's poop at the rock scramble," I KNEW -KNEW - I should have left it at that. But did I keep my mouth shut? Noooo!

Well, I almost did. but somebody made a comment about a smell... and I couldn't let Teddy be blamed.

Today I can laugh a little at the memory of the look on ALL the women's faces, when I sheepishly said "Well, it's actually not Teddy's." It was a look of sheer HORROR. As if they had been unknowingly carrying...well, I guess human poop is bad enough. And the other women who had innocently walked alongside! Perhaps even offered to carry the...load.

But that day, there was nothing funny at all about it. I am lucky they didn't drive off without me.
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 07:55pm PT
Don't be scared,

You gotta deal with what you have in front if you at this point. I am sure to some degree you need those pain meds at the moment.

The statement that Dr. Made to you about not being able to get addicted is horse sh#t and why I have such distain for western medicine! Dint forget to use your own brain and never just trust someone because they have MD in front of their name. At least I don't but I guess most do?

Either you misunderstood what the Dr. said or as Dr's So often do they downplayed the topic as they know they have to give you pain meds to get you through the surgery. When surgery is not elective but is an emergency as many cases is the case any means that need be taken is the ethic as I suppose it should be. Pain meds just happen to be a integral part of the equation and to Dr they are a integral part of their tool kit.. It is my opinion that Dr's are forced to developed an ethic that drugs are good that drugs used properly help. Imop there is no one fix that works for all situations and often that is how medication is applied. It's what Dr's do they try and fix people they have to believe in their means if they did not what would they have? And often what is the best they can do but give you a pill of some sort.

Opiates are simple. Seventy two hours of taking heroin and you will have developed a physical dependence and it will not be fun to stop. Take it for 7-10 days everyday and it will f*#king suck!

Oxycodon, Vicodin, Percocet, will take a bit longer to become dependent although milligrams and frequency of dose are also huge factor. OxyContin will take less time to develop a dependence than the previous three as t is inherently already stronger but still will take longer than heroin. Seven to ten days of Oxycotin is no joke don't do it unless you have to! Note Oxycotin and oxycodone are very different beasts although ultimately the same. Go over that 2-3 week mark on any of them and it is really gonna suck to stop. Heroin the worse, followed by Oxycotin then oxycodone, Vicodin and percocet

Barbiturate addiction also sucks, think Xanax, Klonopin , Valium. Mostly prescribed to treat anxiety they are also very very very addictive. Most have no idea just how addictive till they try to stop. Most prescribing Dr's think oh stopping is no big deal you just gotta take it slow. Well that is true however even then it can be f*#king hell. The reality is most never know because they never stop taking them and live on them forever. The biggest side effect when stopping barbiturates is massive anxiety that even the worse anxiety suffer never knew could exist coupled with massive panic attack and thinking you are otherwise loosing your f*#king mind.

Do as Moose said and you will be fine. Pain is mostly between our own two ears. That is what the book I posted the link to suggest. Its kinda like that of what an amputee patients experiences when they still feel a limb they no longer have. The nerves still fire to the brain like the limb is still there. At some point you just have to retrain the brain with regard to how it identifies with pain or suffer like hell or suffer addicted to pain meds.

Mind over matter sometimes...
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Mar 28, 2014 - 07:59pm PT
Yeah, this sounds really painful. Be going on for a long time. I'd party on for a while, don't skimp.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2014 - 08:20pm PT
Thanks for the input John Duffield.
Don't you get tired of trolling people? Keeping tabs on them from site to site, updating people on what's going on in the lives of complete strangers? Borderline stalking?
Having fun yet? Is this funny to you? A good laugh,eh?


tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 28, 2014 - 10:53pm PT
Dropline always looked like solid 5+ to me? it looks scary as hell for some reason....
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Mar 28, 2014 - 11:10pm PT
Speaking of shite....

What is the fewest squares of TP you can use?


I can get it down to 8 or so for a good semi-clean-break sh#t (clean break is when the door slams shut and not a hair has been disturbed back there)
DanaB

climber
CT
Mar 28, 2014 - 11:14pm PT
Xanax, Klonopin , Valium

Those are trades names for benzodiazepines, not barbiturates.
You're an addiction specialist?
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 11:18pm PT
It was scary and not just because it looks intimidating, if it was kicked out and used I could see it being not so scary firing on all cylinders in full mid season form.

Fresh with not even so much as a single pick to draft or anything that resembling a kicked out foot it was all cards in.

I wanted to get back on it ASAP to get my head around the intimidation factor but my climbing kept bringing me elsewhere until it was finally a kicked out baked mess and waste of my time.

I didn't mention it was my third WI5 lead. I was fully ready but it may have made it feel more real than it actually was. I climbed the advocate in the Cats this season also that gets a 5+ depending on whom you talk to. It was the day I did I it that's for sure. Dropline felt harder imop but that's just me. Ice is subjective and in all reality it was probably the same?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 28, 2014 - 11:23pm PT
cool, a text generator!
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 11:32pm PT
Forgive me benzos for Christ sake Edith!

Give a guy a break for a typo.

No expert just my experience and that of quite a few others I have known over the years

You wanna fill yourself to the gills with the sh#t be my guest.
Sanskara

climber
Mar 28, 2014 - 11:35pm PT
Sadly I think my 3-5 bm's a day require about 3/4 a roll per day by my weekly calculations..

Not sure how many sheets that is but its a fist full a wipe I know that.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Mar 28, 2014 - 11:52pm PT
I used to be a scruncher(of TP)but came to realize that a smoothly rolled length not only gives a cleaner, more comtolled wipe, but uses quite a bit less paper. TMI?
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 03:48am PT
Sometimes on construction sites some guy will dump in the crawlspace. Then the electrician crawls though it. Then we have discussions that lead to advanced cultural awareness.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 29, 2014 - 06:56am PT
Anita. hope you feel better today! heal quickly and well:) take the meds per drs orders but have the tough conversations with them and make them keep you informed about everything.

As much as is possible have a great day! Going ice climbing now:)
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 29, 2014 - 11:08am PT
Anita, get well soon. Hopefully you've got some support from family and friends in hospital - it always helps. I've spent a fair bit of time in the last month at VGH, helping a friend who had very serious surgery, so can sympathize a bit with your situation.

I very rarely now post - too busy with other things, not much to contribute apart from a teeny bit on the "cats" thread, and FaceLift. You definitely add something positive to this madhouse, so keep it up.

I'm astounded that you've managed all the adventures which you've showed us, with your leg imbalance. Very impressive! Hopefully your surgery will be short term pain for real long term gain.

Speaking of which, we used to have a prolific poster who to protect the guilty I'll nickname "BEL". (She probably still lurks.) Anyway, she's a nurse (non-climber), and might have contributed some useful advice on this thread. However, she was also in the habit of posting torrents of other stuff, and drove many crazy. Eventually she was sent to Coventry. Were she posting here, I shudder to imagine the results.
Sanskara

climber
Mar 29, 2014 - 12:05pm PT
Only action this gimp is gonna be seeing for a while ;)

anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2014 - 12:19pm PT
I spent a hot Friday night screwing around too


anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2014 - 12:36pm PT
Hey Sanskara, is that an emo tattoo?
Sanskara

climber
Mar 29, 2014 - 01:34pm PT
This meat head just released his anal glands all over the back seat if my car and my gimp ass is stuck taking it all in...

skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 29, 2014 - 01:51pm PT
You can get through this! You ICE CLIMB for god's sake. The pain isn't fun, but you can get through it. Instead of harping on this sh!t though, how about an attempt at humor from me before I finish up my taxes.

Back in the 70's, I lived sightly north of San Clemente proper (just before San Diego County in Southern California). If you lived in this area; you surfed. No waves; skateboarded liked you were surfing. Oh yea, left out smoked waaaaay too much pot. Anyway one day, a skateboarding day, we were skating and smoking. Amazingly eneough we got hungery and headed over to one of my friends house to munch as his parents weren't home. The 5 of us get there and Joe (the eldest and one of the 2 of us who lived there) proceeds to set up a major sandwich production line. Everyone gets this huge sandwich on a plate and we are just getting ready to partake when we hear the front door shut. Joe's mom who was a very devout catholic, Mrs. S was home. She ambles into the kitchen and we do our very best to look look cool, but slits for eyes and sh#t eating grins give us away. She gives each of us the once over, goes over to Joe and says," Joe, you all look half-stoned". Joe being on top of the situation says," Half-stoned? Mom, we're f^cking wasted!" Dead silence reigns. I quickly say "bye Mrs S." and with the other 2 got out of there. About an hour later we head out to check the surf in SC and there is Joe sitting on the curb at the bottom of the hill with his head in his hands. Kicked out again. (Don't worry, he got back in within a week and found places to stay in the meantime). We were stupid, but did look after each other.

Anyway, hope that at least made you smile. I'm looking forward to seeing many more shots of you on rock and ice.

speelyei

Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
Mar 29, 2014 - 02:18pm PT
Working for a large line clearance tree company in the early 2000's. Aerial lift truck, chipper, crystal-meth felon Foreman and alcoholic trimmer, me, still an apprentice. Meth comes in at about 4am to start the truck and polish the fenders down to the metal. Meth is having a hearty breakfast of pink snowballs and Mountain Dew Code Red or some similar garbage.
We usually work in the woods, but on this day, we get sent to a brand spanking new development. Drinky-crow goes up in the bucket, and Meth and I are on the ground. I'm running the chipper, and around 08:30 I see Meth running back and forth, panicked. He's yelling up at Drinky-crow, who's half deaf anyway. Meth tells me "I gotta shit!", and then promptly craps his pants. I shut off the chipper, and meth climbs up in the chip box. He peels off his crappy boots, socks, jeans and underwear, and I hand him some plastic bags. He scrapes himself off as best he can with wood chips. The smell is unmistakeable. I fetch him his rain bibs, and he climbs down so we can drive to Bi-Mart, a small scale employee owned local variation on Walmart.

Meth heads in with his rain bibs and bare feet to clean up and buy clothes. The restroom is out of order. I go in to buy a pop and observe.
Meth buys paper towels, windex, a package of men's socks, a pair of Rustler jeans, a package of boxers, and a new pair of $17 work boots.
The cashier is about 67 years old, cardigan, pearls on her eyeglasses retaining strap, glasses down on the end of her nose. As she swipes the last item, she raises one eyebrow and says in the loudest voice possible "What'd you do, sh#t your pants? Heheheheheheeee!"
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Mar 29, 2014 - 03:12pm PT
DIY?
another manifestation of the Canadian health care system?

Don't consider moving south of the border. As measured by unnecessary hospital deaths I'm certain we're WAY ahead.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2014 - 11:39am PT
made a big poop
it was painful, but I feel much better now...
it was like a knotted baseball
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 30, 2014 - 12:01pm PT
I see you are home:)
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Mar 30, 2014 - 02:08pm PT
Eat lots of rhubarb; drink prune juice.

When I was in the hospital in 2010 after my mishap in Eldorado, the pain pills nearly turned me into a turdball. Only after much laxative and suppositories did I come close to anything resembling normal "bowel habits;" from that point forward--no more percocets or oxycodone pain killers. Only Ibuprofen, THX!
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Mar 30, 2014 - 03:33pm PT
Whoever said outdoors/climbing is their anti-depressant - same here. The scariest part of going into this was not getting my anti-depressant dose every weekend, and not knowing how to deal with it.

Me too Anita. It's hard, i'm not gonna lie. Focus on other things right now. That book you've been meaning to read, or art project you always wanted to try. Keep writing, maybe a story?

Work on your upper body. Get your core stronger and train your arms and good leg a bit. When you get back at it, you'll be climbing harder than you were before surgery.

When it's time, pour all your effort into rehab. Just remember that it will get you back out there faster, when you get frustrated.

Don't be scared by these Nancy boys into not popping your prescribed pills. When it's time, taper off and you should be fine.

I made the mistake of stopping abruptly after my first hip surgery. I ended up in the ER and admitted for non stop vomiting. Detox, essentially. No fun. Taper.

Michelle has it. Taper is the key. Basically you just need to realize the dangers so that when it's time, and the pain is getting better you start tapering. As long as you don't abuse them and treat them with respect you'll do just fine.

Anita, after a week on pills you should start taking them less often and down to zero after two weeks. That worked for me the first time I was on them. I got hooked on them the second round when I took them for two weeks straight.

That may be good advice for a short term injury Moose, but she's lengthening her leg man! That sh!t takes way more than a couple weeks.





anita514

Gym climber
Great White North

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2014 - 08:39am PT
made a big poop
it was painful, but I feel much better now...
it was like a knotted baseball

Yay!! Lol
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Mar 30, 2014 - 04:48pm PT
hey there say, anita514... for each victory... hug it close to your heart and know that MORE victories will come, victories pave the way to a stronger future, both emotionaly and inner-spirit-wise, as well...

keep up the spirits, we are all here...
:)
wayne w

Trad climber
the nw
Mar 30, 2014 - 04:48pm PT
Great advice Mike!!

When you come out of this stronger than ever, Anita, with even legs, and new friends to climb with in some very cool places, you will look back on all of this as a necessary ordeal that will only make your life much better in the long run.

Sending healing thoughts your way!
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2014 - 06:03pm PT
Looks like a mini turkey baster
Sanskara

climber
Mar 30, 2014 - 06:04pm PT
http://m.wikihow.com/Use-Epsom-Salt-as-a-Laxative

anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2014 - 09:00pm PT
First real human-style shower since March 20th.
Great success!
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Mar 30, 2014 - 09:09pm PT
Stopped up. Dudes....

I did a bunch of wild exploring hikes in ANWR for several summers. The most compact form of food that I could find was lentils, soylent orange, and extra large snickers bars. The lentils would stop me up for days until I was in tears.

I would post it, but if I ran for office, someone would dredge it up. Gotta watch this damn internet.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Mar 30, 2014 - 09:17pm PT
When I was an Army Medic, we always had what we called "Brown Bombers." Cascara Sagrada tablets. NOTHING can stop Brown Bombers! 100% reliable and effective. Sorta' like Castor Oil, only much stronger.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Mar 31, 2014 - 12:26am PT
hey there say, anita514... great, as to the shower... you will feel fresh and new, as the days move on... hang in there...

:)


say, what, please, led to having this hard thing done... whewww...
very brave... i SAW the pics, too, from the other climber, here, as to his 'new leg' ...


wheww... again... :O
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 31, 2014 - 12:42am PT
Brokedown..I thought that was Joe Louis..?
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 31, 2014 - 09:13am PT
Raising the bar once again

DMT

Dingus has entered the tread.

I was doubting the validity of this TMI thread, DMT showing up made it official.

Edit; he must be the Czar of TMI.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2014 - 01:39pm PT
made another deposit in the poop-bank this morning

I know everyone was waiting for this info
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Mar 31, 2014 - 02:33pm PT
HOLY SCHITT!

RJ- The brown bombers were extremely useful in "extracting revenge," since they were relatively tasteless and could be added to some unsuspecting individual's coffee; hee, hee!
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Mar 31, 2014 - 03:00pm PT
I am reminded of my wonderful, tolerant and somewhat OC nurse wife.
She's always mentally balancing my, my dog's and I suppose her own intakes and outputs.
Just yesterday evening: "Did you drink enough water today?"
My response "Was a liter enough?" (I didn't get much exercise and had plenty of output)

Maintaining a proper intake/output fluid balance is actually a Very Good Thing. And when not balanced, useful diagnostic info.
So yes, anita
I'm VERY pleased to hear you're getting it out of your system.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 31, 2014 - 05:08pm PT
Yea!! So you dropped the kids off at the pool did ya. Speaking of kids, wait till you have some. Then you'll probably have some real TMI poo stories
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 31, 2014 - 07:33pm PT
brokendown...I can dig it...extracting revenge...got it...
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 31, 2014 - 07:41pm PT
How are you feeling Anita? hope all is well.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2014 - 08:23pm PT
Don't want to continue contributing to the demise of SuperTopo with this jibber jabber.
We need more climbing cuntent.
I can post up in 6 months if I'm lucky.

Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Mar 31, 2014 - 08:59pm PT
We all enjoy engaging in playful banter! Don't leave!
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2014 - 09:10pm PT
I'm not leaving.. Just don't have too many gory details to share.
I do have 2 weird blood blisters that appeared out of nowhere. And I think I can feel the tightening of my struts and it's really freaky. And it hurts, which is my new status quo. Pain.



Edit: wtf?
thebravecowboy

climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 09:16pm PT
poop-bank

is that why they're called vault toilets?



edit: anita are you now a vampire?
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2014 - 09:17pm PT
And more TMI...
If it was a climbing related injury, would it be cooler?

thebravecowboy

climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 09:18pm PT
yes, but only if you got it because you blew the clip on the bolt on Double Cross.

your leg looks good








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Sanskara

climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 09:19pm PT
F*#king Christ!

And for what stupid ass reason would you even consider going away?

It's not like you contribute a negative time to the forum in any way..
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2014 - 09:24pm PT
That pic is before my shower. It doesn't look that bad now. But I admit, it's awful.
I try not to look at it.

I emailed that pic to my doc just now. Maybe it's where they removed a staple. No idea.
My leg looks like f*#king Hellraiser.

We didn't get to climb Double Cross. Next time.
Sanskara

climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 09:36pm PT

This made me think of you today at my doctors appointment. If you look close I think you can find your leg loop rig thing somewhere centerish to the right.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2014 - 09:45pm PT
Mine is called a Taylor Spatial Frame

What's your prognosis?
I can't wait to go hobbling down the Carriage road!
Sanskara

climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 09:56pm PT
MRI showed a extra articular calcaneal fracture.

Wednesday it will be two weeks since I took the dive. My doctor said best to leave it alone no surgery and just keep it in the air cast. I have a appointment in another 4 weeks. That will be the 6 week mark. I guess I will find out more then. He really did not say much else. He is kinda a man of few words lol...

I hope he is not just being lazy as in the past he has been pretty non proactive with regard to other injuries.

SP will love this, I have state provided healthcare. I often wonder how much that factors into how my doctors decide to treat me.

Regardless I am thankful to have it. I can't imagine if I didn't! Well I can as I spent a large portion of my life with no health insurgence.

Anywho you hot some serious pictures. You a tough bitch girl!
Sanskara

climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 10:00pm PT
Just got the hobbling down the carriage rd. Yeah that's gonna be great and suck all at the same time. Either bring a belay slave and following everything as not yo take yo hard a digger or only leading moderate stuff that you don't gave to even try to get up.

Still fresh air again will be nice. By the time I can get back out I am sure anyone whom has spent much time with me through my recovery will be as happy to get rid of me as I will be to be gotten rid of!
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 31, 2014 - 10:02pm PT
When i wrecked my shoulder my doc kept telling me to drink a few beers with the anti inflamitorys. I kept telling him I did not drink alchohol and the stupid red faced boozer never thought to put recovered alcoholic in my chart. next visit the bozo would suggest the beer again.....
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Mar 31, 2014 - 10:15pm PT
hey there say, anita514... oh my, do you have any warning signs, as to watch for, for infection???

that's a realy 'oh my' you got there, :O


say, sanskara... thanks for sharing more info, as to your situation, too...

the chart is very interesting...
is this very commone for ADULTS to have done, as, i thought childhood bones, would do better, as they are still growing? but adults?

wow, :O


hang in there anita514... sending good cheer... perhaps later, down the line, someone can learn or get helpeful info for all this...
i know callie helped a LOT for folks with or having:
foot surgery...

when she shared her situation... whewww... :O


edit--okay, just saw this at wikipedia:
Cleanliness

The pins of the TSF have to be kept very clean, and must be cleaned daily to prevent infections. Infections of the pin sites in an external fixator are often very serious, sometimes resulting in osteomyelitis, and may require hospitalisation and intravenous antibiotics. However some less serious infections can be treated with penicillin, such as Flucloxacillin Sodium.

wow, just saw this too, as to the frame, you had mentioned:

http://stanleygravesmd.com/spatialframe.html
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2014 - 10:22pm PT
Lots of adults get frames too
But I've always ever seen them on kids, to correct deformities or discrepancies, since everything's still growing. But it's fine on adults too, just takes longer.

Edit: cleaning pins with sodium chloride. Hurts.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Mar 31, 2014 - 10:33pm PT
hey there say, ohhhhh... i see... now that makes senses... yes, i can understand, kids are growing anyways... wow... is this a genetic family things, too, or was it just you...

was curious... :)

how long ago did you first realize the trouble and when, too, please, did you get so very BRAVE :O :) to do this... :)
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2014 - 10:44pm PT
It's me.. Born with a disease. Fractured bones would not heal, even after many grafts, plates and such. So as I grew up my R leg was weak and underdeveloped.

Been waiting for year. Got the call in mid feb !
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 31, 2014 - 10:54pm PT
Big owie. Gnarly.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2014 - 11:04pm PT
Ouch Hankster...
Doing better I hope.
Sanskara

climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 11:06pm PT
Holy sh#t Hank,

My mother has diverticulitis.

Those pictures are scary as they kinda put in perspective what could happen worst case. After many years of western doctors she has adapted her diet big time to compensate for the condition to great success. When western doctors failed she went the alternative medicine and diet route. It has been a great success so far I guess only time will tell?

She has told me that western doctors told her it could get real nasty if she did not get a grip on the condition. We are Irish, my grandfather also suffered this condition those pictures scare me for both the future of my mother and myself.

Best of luck of luck man. I have seen my mother suffer bloody hell a result of her gut!
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Apr 1, 2014 - 12:15am PT
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Apr 1, 2014 - 12:22am PT
I did the Diverticulitis w/bladder fistula thing year before last. Not Fun. Looks like you got robotic Hank. They tried to with me but ended up cutting me wide open.
The procedure likely saved my life. The sepsis I got nearly killed me.
Still not at what I would call a full recovery.
SCseagoatt

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Apr 1, 2014 - 12:36am PT
Holy Sheeet....I'm blown away that you young men are getting diverticulitis. I thought it was an older person's disease.
Wow...glad you are both on the mend...not nice stuff happened to you.

Susan
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Apr 1, 2014 - 12:49am PT
hey there say... oh my, Evel... my dear beloved daddy, just died from sepsis... from a pacemaker implant surgery, :(


so very VERY glad, you got through that awfulness...
very very glad, beyond words...



wow,as to hank and Evel, on that surgery, like susan said, ... so young, oh my... hope you will be well now...


also, oh my, anita514... this is, as awful as it looks, a wonderful 'new way of life' then for you...

i thought the worse, was that you had terrible back trouble and pinched discs, etc, from a leg being short (not that i understood much) ... was just guessing...

but wow, as to the whole long history of breaks and weak leg, it was so much worse...

hang in there... after the pain turns into the past, the victory, will be sweet... thank you for sharing:

this hard HARD climb of yours!!
it's not 'first ascent' but a very serious and important route, for sure...


a salute of admiration, here, brave gal, to you...
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Apr 1, 2014 - 01:12am PT
neebee, words can not express my grief for you losing your Dad. I too, live with that pain.

peace to you, Eric
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Apr 1, 2014 - 01:36am PT
hey there say, eric.... thank you ...


:( hugs to you and your family
Fish Finder

Social climber
Apr 1, 2014 - 11:16am PT
WoW

That is some shlt going on with your right leg for sure

Its amazing that your even able to deal with it , yet alone share

Ice fall wounds are one thing but, damn

That reminds me of my latest pick-up line

" Are your parents both beavers , cause DAMN , your pretty"


Thanks for being all smiles and kittens about it

but dont send us a picture of your balls, we know their big

Happy and quick healing, you have been some refreshing fun here
and kudos to your mate for being there for you,

Cheers Anita
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Apr 1, 2014 - 11:27am PT
a girlfriend contracted an itch.
actually it was a tick.
and it was right inside her who-who,
kinda next to the love-button.

i helped her extract it.
with my teeth.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2014 - 12:42pm PT
let me know if that pick up line works out for you, Fish

I'm just doing it for attenshunz.
but thanks.. nice to have an outlet, even if I am ignored.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2014 - 02:16pm PT
OLD school like you?
I don't get the fur reference. I am on drugs people, take it easy.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2014 - 02:34pm PT
don;t see any beaver in that pic...
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Apr 1, 2014 - 03:00pm PT
Happy April Anita! Hope you're feeling better.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2014 - 03:06pm PT
thanks Evel, hope you are too
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 1, 2014 - 08:14pm PT
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Apr 1, 2014 - 09:05pm PT
Machete!!
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 1, 2014 - 10:04pm PT
Burch, you're unrelenting! Lol
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 2, 2014 - 06:27pm PT
Pretty sure Chuck Noris kicked machette's butt in at least one movie?

Anita. how you feeling today? Hope you are feeling better!
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2014 - 06:43pm PT
Today is okay
Got my remaining staples removed which sucked. Otherwise my pin sites look good and all my little incisions are healing nicely.
Last night couldn't sleep due to intense pain and burning sensation so trying to catch up.
It'll be 2 weeks tomorrow. Think the oxy's are wreaking havoc in my mind though

Thanks for checking in!
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 2, 2014 - 06:52pm PT
Good thoughts going your way Anita. Heal up as soon as you can!
Erik
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2014 - 06:59pm PT
One track mind!
I can't really do that anymore either. That's it.. Life ain't worth living!

Thanks labrat, I appreciate it :)
Sanskara

climber
Apr 2, 2014 - 07:09pm PT
Chin up.

This time next year we will both be wrapping up an ice season we will be so thankful to have had.

What grade do you lead, next year you will lead a grade harder. It will feel good, always does I promise.

This too shall pass. You gotta be tough to agree to that surgery. You will make it through, we always do....
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Apr 2, 2014 - 07:21pm PT
Yeah you got this thing. Use your mind! Remember the drugs are playing on you and don't let them! You're WAY STRONGER!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Apr 2, 2014 - 07:42pm PT
hey there say, anita514... hang in there... some cards are on the way and a little surprise... just takes a while as of course, with mail from here, to canada mail...

:)
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2014 - 07:56pm PT
You sure are sweet, neebee... Touching that a stranger would go out of their way to do that.
You know we have no mail in Canada, they use pigeons and hope for the best.

S: I'm too pussy to lead.
Sanskara

climber
Apr 2, 2014 - 08:39pm PT
Whaaaaaaaat too sissy to lead!

Sorry I won't use the P word out of context where it might offended. Being a girl and all you get a get outa jail free card. Now in person my mouth is rotten.

How long have you climbed ice for, how hard do you follow without getting gripped or freaked out.?

Depending on how you answer next year you are getting on the sharp end! It will be your big post surgery come back present goal accomplishment thingy...
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Apr 3, 2014 - 09:45am PT
this thread is devoted to too much information....

so i offer you, entirely too much information, etmi.

a bowel movement has a life cycle, like every other fleeting entity.
it starts with urge,
then a desperation,
then action on the part of the carrier.

a sit ensues.
relief. free flow contents.
an unpleasant aroma.
satisfaction.

now comes the point in the life cylce
where we can warp our relation ship with the universe.

a pause in the action;
we are left sitting there, idle, but hopeful of more.
(usually it's just a fart that is blocking further entrail)

whenever we hope, the universe sees an an opportunity to
seize a smile,

so i always fool the universe with my cunning
and i hope for nothing.
i even do the cliche "i-don't-give-a-shite-whistle..."
i start reading a good climbing essay or
logging-how-to-sequence and
avert my emotional investment away from my bowels
and the universe looses interest in my torture
and wraps it's stinging tentacles around some other, more venerable victim.

now that the universe isn't looking,
the fart frees up and moves on down the pipe
opening up the passage for the last
stubborn turd.

now on empty the driver
becomes janitor and has
to clean the window to dark souls.
a swipe, another.
now wash hands.

let's get on with the damn day.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2014 - 10:48am PT
thanks Norwegian...

TMI photo


you know what's depressing? seeing people climbing rock in the Gunks on faceook.
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Apr 3, 2014 - 10:51am PT
What, that little slab in the Hudson valley? That's nuthin to get depressed about! ;)

Hope yer feeling better today Anita.
Fish Finder

Social climber
Apr 3, 2014 - 11:42am PT




"Hey - does this brace make my ass look big" ?


Gruesome


Hang in there A

pain is only temporary

I hope all of this gives you the results you are looking for

Best,Gregg



Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 3, 2014 - 11:46am PT
you know what's depressing? seeing people climbing rock in the Gunks on faceook.

I had to stop looking at facebook all together for about a month. I just couldn't deal with it when i was stuck in a rehab bed.

Did you ask your doc for pain killer options yet??? You know oxy's aren't helping your mental state...

Sorry to hear you couldn't sleep. I had nights like that at first too.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2014 - 12:27pm PT
well I'm done with Oxycontin, now taking Oxycodone 5mg, maybe 4-6 a day, out of 12 max.
I see Dr next week so will ask. I do get spurts of intense pain, but not sure if that's because I am stretching my bone or swelling or what.

Sanskara

climber
Apr 3, 2014 - 01:24pm PT
Ditching Facebook was one of the best things I ever did. Really, fact, I can't stress it enough, it's not natural and goes against everything that is natural and human about us.

Now if I could just throw the tv and computer in the trash and be done with it all. Sh#t I gave up my cell phone for two years and loved every minute of it. I didn't miss it even. Bit. I only got one again after I started climbing as it drove my partners nuts!

For real at least right now for the time being I say ditch Facebook it will just f*#k with your head. It's funny us humans even when we know something is not good for us we will keep doing it. Watching what others are doing all the time, them watching you, all the subtle and not so subtly ways it f*#ks with or influences persons mind it would had otherwise. It does just stop doing it for 6 months and you will see!

I know my ways are a bit extreme for some.

Post injury I think even ST goes by the way of the birds...

I know I know you hurry and get f*#king better than would yah..
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Apr 3, 2014 - 01:39pm PT
how about a funny story?
is this a good place for a funny story?

may i.

do do do do doooooo. due. duo.

never mind.

so i was working with paul,
and he heads up an ooooold black oak.
with this dead thing, right in the middle
of it's crotch, like a big f*#k you to the world,

and this guy who had stupid nra stickers all over his big truck
wanted it gone.

so paul'll do it.

i offer,
hey paul, you ok for a bit?
i'm going to kill this other offensive oak limb and i'll be back in a sec.

him: sure.

so i drag my sh#t out and hike up the hill, wrestle up this huge girth wet slimy mossy thing and get set for the strike.

the f*#king dude, with his beer and the resulting belly extruding from his waist band, is gnawing at me from the ground,
telling me how to position for the cut.

im polite, but im thinking, like,
shut the f*#k up dude. go for a hike or something.

romeo wanted juliet.

julio wanted romeo....


then paul yells out, CHUCK!

so i'm like, what?
what do you need?

i need a bigger saw.


hey man i'm already established in this tree, can you give 5 minutes to limb it down?

sure. hurry the f*#k up though, the ants are getting me.

now. being a tree guy,
and a rock guy.
i can hear the urgency in his reply.

so the f*#king guy is still gabbing over the rim of his beer,
and i'm like.

dude. shut up. i have to get this job done,
then get down to my friend paul,
who is lashed to a nest that is eating him.

he finally backs up.

i lob the limb in 2 goes
and hustle back to my buddy and give him the right saw.

linger ooonnnn. your pale blue eyes...
thought of you as my mountain top.
thought of you as my peak.....
though of you as everything,
that i've had but couldn't keep....

ooops, side track on a sunbeam..

where was i?


anyway i forgot in my haste to get back to paul,
my rope.

i left the f*#ker there, hanging from his tree,
black on black.

and then, the damn republican,
he stiffs us 20 bucks.

i guess in his school 420 rounds down to 400
f*#king hood.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2014 - 01:43pm PT
facebook is a pointless exercise in vanity.
look at me and all the cool sh#t I buy, or all the cool restaurants I go to, or how amazing I am, or how much better I am than you, or how many shitty all inclusive resorts I go to a year to sit on my ass get laid and get drunk, or how amazing my life is because I have kids, or rescued dogs, or..... you get the idea.

I have taken a couple breaks but always go back. sometimes it is just fun. but I find there is so much more bragging/chest beating going on that it makes me feel bitter and pissed off. sometimes it is just too much information.

like going away for a weekend climbing and coming back to a non-stop flood of oscars bullsh#t. how do I even know people who consider watching this farce a highlight of their weekend? is this life? talking about the oscars, or some other useless, irrelevant bullshit awards show?

maybe it's just me...

Fish Finder

Social climber
Apr 3, 2014 - 01:55pm PT
Ok Anita

Now it's personal





Edit; i did not receive this Oscar for being in the movie "Sideways"
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Apr 3, 2014 - 03:03pm PT
i was just taking a leak
in my yard i live pretty rural
and the ups man walks up
the dog didn't even
bark he's got those little
cookies and he's like the pusher
and my guard dog is all strung out,
anyway
i apologized,
it was kinda awkward,

then i realized that we both had packages in our hand,
the only difference was that,
well they were both mail,
i don't know what the difference was,
i guess i'll find out when i open
the she package.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Apr 3, 2014 - 03:11pm PT
facebook is a pointless exercise in vanity.
look at me and all the cool sh#t I buy, or all the cool restaurants I go to, or how amazing I am, or how much better I am than you, or how many shitty all inclusive resorts I go to a year to sit on my ass get laid and get drunk, or how amazing my life is because I have kids, or rescued dogs, or..... you get the idea.

Anita, if it took one gnarly operation and some pain meds to realize that, you are way ahead of most people in this world. We have even given up TV (omgod!!) in this house. We do still watch movies...

If TV or the internet isn't cutting it for ya, find a good book or 3, or help Sanskara start his tasty vegan junk food business. Something. You definitely need something to keep your mind occupied during this period. btw, the leg shots look good. Seems like your coming along nicely. What length enhancement are they shooting for?
Sanskara

climber
Apr 3, 2014 - 03:13pm PT
Weeg,

You're funny, and talented! I enjoy observing you via SP...

Not just your writing although at the moment that is what I most I mostly make reference to. Your home, the things you build. Pretty spectacular, you are clearly not lazy. I also enjoy your on again off again love affair with the sauce. I can relate although I abstain or death is sure to follow sooner than later. Worse than death though is the suffering of those that love me that have no say in the matter.

Anita,

You and I have the same disease. I don't relate one little bit with popular culture or much of society.

Really I belong in some artsy little hippy town but I am stuck here amongst well the type you describe so well above :(

It's tough these self imposed first world problems we wrestle with ;)

anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2014 - 03:32pm PT
Anita, if it took one gnarly operation and some pain meds to realize that, you are way ahead of most people in this world. We have even given up TV (omgod!!) in this house. We do still watch movies...

nah, I have always thought this. I lash out with nasty comments and rant-like 'updates' but no one really gets it. and if it is so bad, why not leave? I guess there are some parts of FB I enjoy, but there's too much BS to wade through to find it.
there is no cable here and net flix is too complicated. can watch movies, read, contemplate life...

I am lengthening 4cm. I am almost half way through my strut turns, so the worst of it is almost half way done. then wait for bone to consolidate and heal.

edit: I am still waiting for his samples. until then he can be a troll using a text generator for all I know!
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Apr 3, 2014 - 03:46pm PT
4 cm. Facking A is right.....They're going for a sizeable chunk of the difference, but you are almost half way there. Sending good vibes/praying your way. Whichever you prefer.


Sanskara, I know your out there... If you are entheusastic (fu#k the spelling shit) about it, you should at least think about the vegan thing. It's all about the passion. I'm a 6 out of 7 day vegan.




tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 3, 2014 - 06:54pm PT
Facebook is good if you keep it to just family and real friends. I get to see what the family and friends who have moved away are up to. I have 117 friends. some of my friends have over a thousand friends. how do you even know that many people? I should take a break from the taco, MP, neice and neclimbs.. killed my TV four years ago and only have a tracfone for a cell. no internet on the cell just for important calls.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 5, 2014 - 09:08pm PT
Anita, how are you feeling? hope it's getting better!
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 5, 2014 - 09:10pm PT
Ditto. Is the lengthening part over yet?
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Apr 5, 2014 - 09:12pm PT
the only difference was that,
well they were both mail,

second-best line ever!


And yeah, no TV. But that means nothing if you have a computer.
Sanskara

climber
Apr 5, 2014 - 09:20pm PT
Cuz you actually have to deal with real friends.....

Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 5, 2014 - 09:38pm PT
Man it must be lame to be threatened by other people's online relationships...
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 5, 2014 - 09:53pm PT
Right matt. You've made us well aware.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Apr 5, 2014 - 10:13pm PT
i tried what you guys do

How can you possibly presume that? You tried what want them to have done. Don't preach your own experience as universal, young wanker.

And those who have self importantly forgone FB? What was it you expected to find there
In The first place? The medium is the message,( dig?) and FB is a shallow format! were you naively expecting to find the godhead through clif notes?

it's infinite in its realm but go as a collector/observer rather than a cop.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 5, 2014 - 10:28pm PT
I am not talking about facebook old wanker.
lol.. No wonder you didn't do so well with the online/real world transition.. Lol
Sanskara

climber
Apr 5, 2014 - 10:36pm PT
Mike,

We don't know each other much at this point.

I wanna climb The Grand, I plan on actually doing it sooner than later.

Think you could offer me some beta?

Heck maybe if you would like we could even climb a day or two together when I am out that way.

Sh#t wouldn't that be something then we would could kinda sorta say we are kinda sorta kinda friends...

This internet thing is so fake and stupid, it sucks ;)
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Apr 5, 2014 - 10:37pm PT
My FB feed is pretty much a conversation with friends and family; stuff we would mention if we were hanging out for the day. There are a few *problem posters* but for the most part, the few who post way too much inane stuff...just makes me very grateful I don't wallow in that kind of carp. Climbing discussion boards are about the most inane online stuff that I participate in.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 5, 2014 - 10:44pm PT
Sanskara- Heck ya dude,

Sounds like fun. Shoot me a private message and we can hash it out.
Sanskara

climber
Apr 5, 2014 - 10:47pm PT
That was laced with a hint of sarcasm although a touch of truth. Kinda a tongue and cheek for our new friend.

But yeah I will PM up you, believe it or not I am just sitting down for dinner. And no I was not alpine climbing hence the late hour ;)
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 5, 2014 - 10:53pm PT
Lol. Whatever. Matt's actually and old "friend" who's well known around here for the exploits that he's now bitter of. I do appreciate his NZ climbing knowledge however, and I wish he would just take his own advice and stick to that...
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Apr 5, 2014 - 10:56pm PT
BTW Hippiegirl, I dont think i have ever seen a picture of you climbing?

It's Happiegrrrl. And there are plenty of people on this forum I have been climbing with.

Being that your profile here is only 16 days old, that is sort of a strange thing to post. What's the matter - did you screw yourself over using your previous avatar? Or do you have this one to post the sh#t you haven't got the balls to under an avatar people can connect to your real person?
Sanskara

climber
Apr 5, 2014 - 11:21pm PT
Happy I think I know you lol...

This past summer I was having it out on Ridicullissima, I was really fighting for it making all kinds of noise. One of my partners said to me as he knows I don't know my climbing history I think that is Dick Williams over there FYI...

Regardless of whom it was I think you were working with two men doing a bunch of trail maintenance with straps and winches. Pretty sure it was you as I do remember a furry white dog also.

Just put two and two together with a few pictures you have shared and comments about working for the preserve your dog so forth and so on?

Is this TMi?
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Apr 5, 2014 - 11:24pm PT
Yes that is me,and yes, I remember you on that day.
Sanskara

climber
Apr 5, 2014 - 11:35pm PT
Haha

Funny stuff.

My partner built a mini anchor nest mess at the crux and one of the cams got wicked stuck. I am not one to take unless someone is gonna end up hurt. I got it, but just in the nick of time ;)

Sorry to hear about the pup. Not Craig dogs sadly but loved very much non the less. Will you get a new travel companion?


happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Apr 5, 2014 - 11:47pm PT
Yes, I am beginning to be ready for another dog soon. I have been doing a house sit this winter and wanted to wait so as not to put this place at risk for puppy/new dog missteps in behavior. I finish up here in about 3 weeks and so...I would like to find another terrier mix, if possible.

I miss Teddy very much, but also miss having a doggy friend.
Sanskara

climber
Apr 5, 2014 - 11:54pm PT
I have a fondness for terriers of all types also.

Might I catch you doing more trail maintenance this season. Well with thus foot I might not be out and about till summer or fall at best? Like to you work for the preserve...
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Apr 5, 2014 - 11:54pm PT
happiegrrrl on Jam Crack, Yosemite Valley
photo: Ed Hartouni
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Apr 6, 2014 - 12:01am PT
Adam Thomas! In your 23 posts (so far) on Super Topo, you seem to be concentrating on this thread?

It appears you are from New Zealand (which is good) and that you are a teenager (which is not good for this thread.)

I'm sure you have been having great fun with your Yankee elders.

I know it does get lonely out there in New Zealand.


Anastasia

climber
Home
Apr 6, 2014 - 12:03am PT
(I don't know if anyone posted this joke yet but heck, this one is for you Nita!)

All the organs of the body were having a meeting, trying to decide who was the one in charge.

"I should be in charge," said the brain, "Because I run all the body's systems, so without me nothing would happen."

"I should be in charge," said the blood , "because I circulate oxygen all over so without me you'd all waste away."

"I should be in charge," said the stomach , "because I process food and give all of you energy."

"I should be in charge," said the legs , "because I carry the body wherever it needs to go."

"I should be in charge," said the eyes, "Because I allow the body to see where it goes."

"I should be in charge," said the rectum , "Because I'm responsible for waste removal."

All the other body parts laughed at the rectum and insulted him, so in a huff, he shut down tight.

Within a few days, the brain had a terrible headache, the stomach was bloated, the legs got wobbly, the eyes got watery, and the blood was toxic. They all decided that the rectum should be the boss.

The Moral of the story?

The ass hole is usually in charge!
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Apr 6, 2014 - 12:11am PT
Yep we sure do. Plane caught fire. Pilot changed course to get to nearest landing. Then everyone asphyxiated before they got there. Plane kept going on auto pilot until it dumped in the drink at 101Ex25S.

Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Apr 6, 2014 - 12:27am PT
Adam my boy! Re your last post:

What 3 here and 20 in other climbing related threads, ^^^^^^^those things are endangered species around these parts, they have morphed into cows.

Boy you Americans sure like to presume things don't you.

It appears you are understating----your posts on this thread young lad, per this screenshot.


However, you can work up from your current pile of schist.

Do you have any sheep jokes?
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Apr 6, 2014 - 12:50am PT
Don't mess with Fritz. He has his own sheep ranch in Idaho.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Apr 6, 2014 - 07:00am PT
Sanskara - We start trailwork first Sunday in May. If you can't climb much for a bit,why not come join in? I didn't see what happened to your foot, so maybe you can't be on it, but we're always happy to have volunteers.
Fish Finder

Social climber
Apr 6, 2014 - 09:23am PT



Do you every get hungry when you smell your farts


Mine always smells like "jack"o"lantern"

Burnt Pumpkin
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2014 - 01:46pm PT
Leave me alone, matt
Sanskara

climber
Apr 6, 2014 - 02:44pm PT
Happie...

I actually was thinking last year that I should volunteer for some trail work at the reserve at some point. Being I have an extensive background in construction I figure it at least a decent starting point and that I might be of more value than your average volunteer. Who knows maybe it would just make me more of a pain in the ass? I am sure trail work is kinda an art form though. If not I could see it as at the least being a pretty specific skill set!

Anyway last year I was spending 3-4 days a week down there living outa the back of my truck. Before I busted up my foot that was the pan again this year. As of now I am non weight bearing. My next doctors apt is in 4 weeks. Hopefully I can be back in action climbing hard for July-October.

As soon as I am weight bearing I will let you know as I would love to give what I can. I noticed the thread over on MP with regard to the new camp ground. I have to admit that although I am not a fan of the overbuilt fancy cedar kiosks and visitors center I do feel fortunate to have such a resource at my disposal regardless. I am more than happy to pay my $100 to see the place not turned into another development of overpriced town homes for the well to do.

Regardless of how I feel about the specifics I would rather have the place than not...
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2014 - 03:37pm PT
They're not my bloody friends.
Quit harassing me.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Apr 6, 2014 - 05:18pm PT
hope all is well my fat fine french canadien!
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Apr 6, 2014 - 05:44pm PT
Sanskara - our trail crew can seem more like the Keystone Cops than a finely tuned machine most of the time. The skills are brawn, and common sense for the most part, mixed with a little bit of irreverence(OSHA would not approve of some of the stuff we do). Loading/unloading the cables into various griphoists, and getting the anchors and directionals set well for them is the biggest technical thing(and getting people to set them one way when someone think it should be something else causes the most annoyance).

But yeah -just come if/when you can.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Apr 7, 2014 - 12:38pm PT
Anita-

FWIW: The account of Adam Thomas has been deactivated. Whatta' Troll!

Cheers!

Rodger
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 7, 2014 - 03:22pm PT
Anita. hope you are healing well and in good spirits.
thebravecowboy

climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
Apr 29, 2014 - 04:29pm PT

blasts of cold dry desert wind punctuated with hot eau d'beef-poopz made this a memorably uncomfortable belay yesterday.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2014 - 04:39pm PT
juicy beef farts
mmmmmmmm
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 29, 2014 - 06:24pm PT
Was doing my solo circuit @ the leap on friday, the place was busy. I saw some small piece of trash @ the base of one of the most populer climbs. I picked it up and was trying to figuer out what it was. it looked like a little mouse with blood on it. When I did realize what I was holding in my hand I dropped it really quickly and cleaned my hand with fresh chalk.....

YUK!
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2014 - 07:20pm PT
I always pack out my tampons
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Apr 29, 2014 - 07:37pm PT
^^ now THAT's TMI!
(laffin')
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Apr 29, 2014 - 07:42pm PT
TMI alert!!!

regarding Ed's pic of Happie jammin'. For the unfortunate few around here who haven't done it, Sunnyside Jam is not trivial. Great fun though. Didja do pitch 2?
(I'm a poet and didn't even know it)

!!!end TMI alert
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 29, 2014 - 07:49pm PT
I seriously hope it was part of some first aid emergency and not your basic monthly maitaince. Even if it was used to stem an injury someone should clean up the bio mess when the patching is completed...

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