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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2016 - 09:37am PT
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It's that time of year in CA! Ate a couple leaves last month, went caving, yet again I have no reaction.
Eat up!
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Mar 27, 2016 - 10:25am PT
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Hey, you should make a salad . . .
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Mar 27, 2016 - 10:34am PT
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Mr Way would turn a 5 min approach into an hour to avoid the stuff.
Hmmm...five minutes with Mr. Way always seemed like an hour.
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 27, 2016 - 10:40am PT
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Yes this the correct way to combat poison oak and other poisons.
Men in old daze did it this way.
Eat tiny dose over period of time and you'll become immune.
But now!!!!
Modern science and doctors will charge you a stooopid amount of money with no cure.
Just see ....
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perswig
climber
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Mar 27, 2016 - 12:11pm PT
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Allergy and immunology clinicians do this (for various allergens, don't know about PO) all the time, usually with carefully-titrated and -timed sq injections but occasionally with topically-applied suspensions.
Hypersensitivity suppression (avoiding IgE trigger and release of histamine, LT/PGs, and cytokines) fades and usually requires maintenance dosing (no, not THAT dosing), or restart after an extended period.
Props to those who've done it themselves, esp if you didn't own an epipen when you started - brave!
I remember our family GP sending my mom home with hand-rolled pred tabs every spring for all the poison ivy and sumac thrashing we kids would do around the house over the summer. As well as some valium, I'm pretty sure.
Dale
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Mar 27, 2016 - 12:22pm PT
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Nice Vaaaannnnzzzzz Burchy
This is a less archaic way to do it.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Mar 27, 2016 - 02:08pm PT
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Naturopathic crap^^^ did not work on me.
I do have one other friend who did the eating it thing and swears it worked. I'm not sure I'm brave enough to try it. Fortunately I don't live in PO central any more.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Mar 27, 2016 - 02:54pm PT
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I can attest to the efficacy of the "limited exposure" approach.
As I reached middle age, I wanted something more "natural" than the requisite combination of Viagra and Extenze. Let's say I have "small hands."
So, once a week I would rub PO on the "part" that needed "extenzing," and by the next day, well, let's just say that the results would be dramatic: significant size increase, particularly thickness, coupled with swelling and a delightful shade of purple. Also a pleasing texture, "ribbed," as they say, for "ultimate pleasure."
Furthermore, the effect would last for at least a week.
All this with no drugs!
But, to the efficacy part, over time the effects became less and less dramatic. Now, try as I might, I'm just stuck with "small hands."
Oh, and I can still get the PO rash on any other part of my body.
Sigh
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2016 - 03:19pm PT
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^^^ I got it there twice, that sounds about right...
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Mar 27, 2016 - 03:44pm PT
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^^^ Did you enjoy the delightful "ribbed" effect? Did your significant other?
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Mar 27, 2016 - 03:58pm PT
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Naturopathic crap^^^ did not work on me.
You're supposed to put it in you not on you.
Maybe you're too sensitive.
;-)
Worked for me.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2016 - 04:04pm PT
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Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Mar 27, 2016 - 03:44pm PT
^^^ Did you enjoy the delightful "ribbed" effect? Did your significant other?
Ha! She was not interested in testing it out. I did not enjoy it, as a matter of fact.
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rmuir
Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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Mar 27, 2016 - 08:19pm PT
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My grandfather used to tell a story about poison oak from his grade school days growing up outside of Chico… This would have been back in, oh, something like 1915.
Seems that young Harold was nearly impervious to poison oak; so much so that he would taunt the girls at school by putting a leaf on his tongue and showing all the coeds his fine trick. Did this many times and became the schoolyard sensation.
…worked great, until he eventually wound up with a flaming rash throughout his mouth, throat, and lips! He never pulled that stunt again.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Mar 27, 2016 - 08:21pm PT
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I've been one of the lucky ones. I could roll in it with no ill effects.
Susan
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Bargainhunter
climber
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Mar 28, 2016 - 06:00am PT
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There is some seriously funny sh#t in this thread. Some good comedians on the taco!
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Mar 28, 2016 - 07:34am PT
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You guys are crazy. If I come into to contact with it, I just rub some mugwort leaves on that area and there's no problem. Mugwort, conveniently, grows in the same places PO does. Old timer San Gabriel Mountains hikers taught me this.
http://yankeebarbareno.com/2011/03/03/mugwort-a-natural-poison-oak-preventive/
I was taught how to use mugwort as a kid, but to actually prevent getting poison oak rather than to treat an existing rash. I would pick the fresh leaves and crush them together and then rub them on my skin soon after exposure to poison oak. It’s a natural treatment that is free and easy to use and, I believe, always worked to somehow neutralize the active ingredient in poison oak, urushiol. And mugwort is readily available in the woods often times actually growing near or right beside poison oak.
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Ben Emery
Trad climber
Back and forth the Pacific
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Mar 28, 2016 - 10:43pm PT
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I believe you, but I'm going to want a double-blind study published in the Lancet before I try that method.
Not quite the Lancet, but there is at least one study using a placebo control group out there that claims you can get desensitization ("hyposensitization") via the oral tolerance route:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/06180687
Admittedly, they gave purified urushiol (the allergen in poison oak) rather than leaves, but the principle should be the same.
For some reason I can't access the article from home so can't see how rigorous it was, but if anyone cares enough about the scientific nitty-gritty I'm happy to look it up from work where I should have access to the journal.
Fortunately in spite of a bit of contact over the years I'm yet to react to the stuff. I hope to stay that way.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Mar 28, 2016 - 10:52pm PT
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I repeatedly rubbed poison ivy on my genitals until I stopped having a reaction to poison ivy. You should try it.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2016 - 11:01pm PT
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Ben, that's awesome, I haven't seen that before! My wife will believe that much more than my old yellow-paged books about Native American plant uses. (I'll access the article at work tomorrow as well).
SLR, twice was enough for me.
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