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Majid_S

Mountain climber
Karkoekstan
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 1, 2014 - 02:53pm PT
Boys are headed to New York for emergency UN meeting so what do you think is cooking over there ?

http://news.yahoo.com/russian-troops-over-ukraines-crimea-region-200052097.html


TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 1, 2014 - 03:55pm PT
Chicken Kiev

tioga

Mountain climber
pac northwest
Mar 1, 2014 - 04:57pm PT
Lookie-look... EU needs SLAVES.

Where are they going to dump millions of migrants and refugees from all over former British Emipre? Europe has no jobs and no space...they need LAND. They're becoming Mulsim territory now too...Ukraine is big...good soil, black fertile soil. 50 million population of Ukraine = European slave labor force. Fools are being fed tales by CIA-paid provokators that "once you join EU we guarantee 2000 euro salary to everyone"...lol. They haven't seen minimum wage life of US slaves.

Where are they (EU) going to dump toxic refuge from "manufacturing infrastructure" sponsoring British pockets? Ukraine = future China, toxic landfill. They're doing it in Kazakhstan already, funding British pensions via polluting plants.

"Bama" didn't pull out the troops from Afghanistan yet, lol still quacking about Russian troops in Ukraine? Wipe the blood off your chin first, Euro Fashists.

"Galicia"...the ones who buried people alive (I had met witnesses personally), Nazi dogs-- back in the 1940, working for Nazi occupants--who burned down Khatyn and other Belarus villages and mass murdered all kinds of people in Western Urkaine...want Crimea now? Want to invite NATO troops to station and open bases in Sevastopol? Haha, try. Syria will seem like a nice resort to them if they try to grab Crimea.

Bammer, keep quacking....ya know what's gonna happen when documents showing how many Nazi West Ukrainian "executioners" had being given US citizenship and covered by the US? They're gonna love it when this gets published.

Ukraine has lawful, elected--via democratic process--government, which was overthrown via violent coup. Lawful president of Ukraine requested Russia to intervene and restore order. Russia will also protect Russian-speaking population of adjacent territories from lootings and genocide by Bandera--Neofashist armed bandit units. Bands of looters are all over Ukraine, stealing, stopping cars, terrorizing. Wait, Bama...is US gvmt going to support violent overthrow of US government too, since you like this stuff??? Never say "no".

On a more positive note, I heard that guns--masquerading as knives--had killed 27 and wounded 109 people in China today....Take the guns away. Turn population into slaves. Brainwash. Divide, control and rule=>profit.


HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 1, 2014 - 05:09pm PT
This thread is off to a good start.
RyanD

climber
Squamish
Mar 1, 2014 - 05:40pm PT

Ukraine is game to you?!


tioga

Mountain climber
pac northwest
Mar 2, 2014 - 02:56am PT
New Ukraine leader already made it to Wikipedia...too bad it was "Nazi salut" article.
Credit: tioga

Head West, Ukraine...the future is bright.
Credit: tioga

Back up is on the way
Credit: tioga



Lollie

Social climber
I'm Lolli.
Mar 2, 2014 - 05:38am PT
It seems as you're making contradictory statements, Tioga, but then maybe I misunderstand you.
The coup was made by pro-EU politicians. Why would EU in that case then consider acting against the coup of an elected leader, if your reasoning in the first post was to be believed?

Personally, I don't think we need neither Ukraine nor Turkey into EU.
Majid_S

Mountain climber
Karkoekstan
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2014 - 09:37am PT
Years of pushing Putin to the corner and stealing Libya right out of his back will get him in to real action this time and he aint joking.

http://news.yahoo.com/putin-ready-invade-ukraine-kiev-warns-war-011805827--finance.html?vp=1
JimT

climber
Munich
Mar 2, 2014 - 11:17am PT
Lookie-look... EU needs SLAVES.

Where are they going to dump millions of migrants and refugees from all over former British Emipre? Europe has no jobs and no space...they need LAND. They're becoming Mulsim territory now too...Ukraine is big...good soil, black fertile soil. 50 million population of Ukraine = European slave labor force. Fools are being fed tales by CIA-paid provokators that "once you join EU we guarantee 2000 euro salary to everyone"...lol. They haven't seen minimum wage life of US slaves.

Where are they (EU) going to dump toxic refuge from "manufacturing infrastructure" sponsoring British pockets? Ukraine = future China, toxic landfill. They're doing it in Kazakhstan already, funding British pensions via polluting plants.

"Bama" didn't pull out the troops from Afghanistan yet, lol still quacking about Russian troops in Ukraine? Wipe the blood off your chin first, Euro Fashists.

"Galicia"...the ones who buried people alive (I had met witnesses personally), Nazi dogs-- back in the 1940, working for Nazi occupants--who burned down Khatyn and other Belarus villages and mass murdered all kinds of people in Western Urkaine...want Crimea now? Want to invite NATO troops to station and open bases in Sevastopol? Haha, try. Syria will seem like a nice resort to them if they try to grab Crimea.

Bammer, keep quacking....ya know what's gonna happen when documents showing how many Nazi West Ukrainian "executioners" had being given US citizenship and covered by the US? They're gonna love it when this gets published.

Ukraine has lawful, elected--via democratic process--government, which was overthrown via violent coup. Lawful president of Ukraine requested Russia to intervene and restore order. Russia will also protect Russian-speaking population of adjacent territories from lootings and genocide by Bandera--Neofashist armed bandit units. Bands of looters are all over Ukraine, stealing, stopping cars, terrorizing. Wait, Bama...is US gvmt going to support violent overthrow of US government too, since you like this stuff??? Never say "no".

On a more positive note, I heard that guns--masquerading as knives--had killed 27 and wounded 109 people in China today....Take the guns away. Turn population into slaves. Brainwash. Divide, control and rule=>profit.

Possibly your best rant ever!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 2, 2014 - 11:19am PT
This is a result of EU socialists with the backing of US State Dept. socialists to bring yet another country into the globalist cabal.

Putin hates globalists and is a staunch Russian nationalist. He will not let this stand, and I don't blame him.

The 'freedom' rallies were hijacked by neo-Nazis who brought weapons to the game. That is when the sh#t hit the fan. They overthrew a democratically elected gov't with weapons. Yeah, that's a coup alright!

Ask yourself who will be in charge next. Ask yourself how Egypt, Libya, and Syria turned out when the amateurs in the Obama administration meddled? Did we overthrow moderate governments and help even worse players?

This Ukraine mess is more meddling by global socialists. This time, though, they may be f*#king with the wrong people.

God help us...
WBraun

climber
Mar 2, 2014 - 11:34am PT
Paul Craig Roberts

"Reality on the ground in Ukraine contradicts the incompetent and immoral Obama regime’s portrait of Ukrainian democracy on the march."

Let us all cross our fingers that another war is not the consequence of the insouciant American public,
the craven cowardice of the presstitute media, Washington’s corrupt European puppets,
and the utter mendacity of the criminals who rule in Washington.


http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 2, 2014 - 11:47am PT
I read his stuff, Werner. He is spot-on if you stop and actually look at what has happened, and is currently happening.

I actually got called a left-wing commie for siding with Putin against the EU on this.

Whatever....
WBraun

climber
Mar 2, 2014 - 11:49am PT
I like the Putinator too .... :-)
sharperblue

Mountain climber
San Francisco, California
Mar 2, 2014 - 12:05pm PT
Most concise summary of Ukraine coup thus far/motives

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2014/03/the-crimean-anti-coup-move.html#more

The question is: wasn't it obvious that this wouldn't work (installing a western puppet regime in the backyard of the Russian Navy and Syrian tactical supply lines)? yes. so then what are the real objectives? Just looting the economy?
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Mar 2, 2014 - 12:14pm PT
Sharper you may be correct, but I just think we might be that dumb. Our greed has often made us pretty stupid in the past.

Anycase, the CIA and State Dep. made a move they couldn't back up.. Putin is shoving it up their ass with little effort, and less we can do about it. It's kinda funny actually. Especially since I really don't give much of a crap what is going on there. It's their problem.


Talk softly and carry a big stick?

The corollary is

Shut the f*#k up if you can't carry water.
WBraun

climber
Mar 2, 2014 - 12:30pm PT
America's continued descent into the La La Land of pretending to be the defender of the free world
and the fountain of democracy is beginning to enter the 'Sarah Palin school of geopolitical fantasy' realm of delusion.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Mar 2, 2014 - 12:32pm PT
Socialist west against the capitalist east? Bluey are you on Crack? If you yanks understood hockey even a bit you'd know that this whole thing revolves around the Ruskies loss to Canada in Sochi. Do you knowthat Putin personally gave a new Mercedi Benz to each Olympic medal winner? Now guess what the losers got!

Justin Trudeau: Canada should do more. For several weeks, we have been trying to encourage the Government to take the leadership to impose personal sanctions against the President and his allies. I think President Yanukovych is now illegitimate, and it is even more worrying now that Russia lost in hockey and will be in a bad mood. We fear some involvement of the Russian government in Ukraine.
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Mar 2, 2014 - 12:34pm PT
Russia is NOT going to give up their warm water port without a fight. No Way, No How...everything else is secondary to that goal for the Russians imho...
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 2, 2014 - 12:52pm PT
Socialist west against the capitalist east? Bluey are you on Crack?


I'm not, but "the West" is of late...that's the bizarre paradigm shift that has taken place.

The Eastern Block European countries have become the proud nationalists we used to be, and not in a bad way. We and the EU have become global socialists.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 2, 2014 - 12:56pm PT
Obama pacified the pablum drinkers with his little "demands" of Puttin,, which i imagine Putin then used to wipe his arse with.. Its NONE of our biz.
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