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Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 17, 2014 - 11:49am PT
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I can rest quietly in the fact that I didn't play a part in it.
Well said. I feel the same.
But who could we point fingers at for playing a part, the guys taking the pictures or making the videos?
Is there actually anyone encouraging him to do these things? It has always been a game of one-ups-manship (how the hell do you write that?)
I secretly admire him and cringe and turn away at the same time.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 17, 2014 - 11:56am PT
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lost my best friend in 1984 due to a terminal case of WMS better known as Watch Me Syndrome. Pressure to pull off the next big stunt to keep the money flowing must also make it hard to make good decisions 100% of the time.
Coz is crude but there is no need to be polite when you are trying to save a life........
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 17, 2014 - 12:02pm PT
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When one remains equipoised one can understand.
The minute one loses balance then you will fall in your understanding.
You'll then end up on one side of the fence or other .....
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 17, 2014 - 12:12pm PT
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Yo Sarah, the name's not Bob, it's Bruce.
So according to your street cred scale who's qualified to discuss this with you?
Edit: Here's me, soloing a couple thousand feet above the talus. But the route is only 5.9, so I guess if I had fallen I wouldn't be quite as dead as a guy soloing 5.12.
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Feb 17, 2014 - 12:28pm PT
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Everyone has a right to their opinion. I think the last few pages here concerning soloing are well thought out. Some may be pretty blunt, but are generally spot on.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 17, 2014 - 12:30pm PT
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If it is at all possible the new version of Coz is more combative than the old....
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 17, 2014 - 12:33pm PT
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The level that you solo in relation to your limits has a real bearing as well as the simple fact that the smaller the holds the less margin for error. once you get up to a certain level the margin for error simply disolves....
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 17, 2014 - 12:36pm PT
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Thank you Scott.
I apologize for the way I came off. I certainly bow to your free climbing ability!
Now about that Belizzi character....
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 17, 2014 - 01:01pm PT
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By the thread drift we can conclude that soling is a much more interesting topic than sport climbing. Sharma is so far beyond most of us in pure ability that it is no longer interesting. 5.15 whatever.... I will never even come close so why bother even paying attention. We all solo on one level or annother even if we think we don't. we all rationalize our risk takeing and try to tell ourselfs that it won't happen to me because I have my sh#t wired tight...
I was a big chicken yesterday and bailed off of Repentance WI5 the crux moves off the belay on P2 were not really protectable because the ice is reasonably thin and very abused. I was chicken and could not commit to what would have been close to a solo yet I ran it out enough on the steep 1st pitch that I was also basicly soloing..
I was not feeling physicalyy all that great. my shoulder is jacked from an incident @ work last week that agravated an old injury. As a concequence my left arm feels weak and my head suffers.. pretty sure I could have done it had I gone for it but not 200% sure so I bailed. live to fight annother day. yet this incident proves nothing other than the fact that I am prone to putting myself in dangerous situations..... and I am a chicken..
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 17, 2014 - 01:04pm PT
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this incident proves nothing other than the fact that I am prone to putting myself in dangerous situations..... and I am a chicken
Nope, it proves you're intelligent .....
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Feb 17, 2014 - 01:16pm PT
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Did that just happen?
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 17, 2014 - 01:19pm PT
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Na, I am stupid. who tries to climb WI5 w/ a jacked shoulder and a sick partner... heck i might qualify for being stupid simply for ice climbing.
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pb
Sport climber
Sonora Ca
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Feb 17, 2014 - 01:44pm PT
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Mr. Clean white courtesy phone, Mr. Clean?
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Feb 17, 2014 - 01:56pm PT
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I believe one has to acknowledge Pacific Edge's Tom Davis and Diane Russell, who have mentored a young Chris and many other climbers, including yours truly. Their stoke for the sport is contagious. They make climbing fun, accessible and safe. Cheers to these two.
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Gerg
Trad climber
Calgary
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Feb 17, 2014 - 03:16pm PT
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Maybe I am missing some inside joke here, but I don't get why everyone slags Cosgrove down for his grammar etc.
FYI this is a forum not an english class. After working at a daily newspaper for nearly 20 years I can honestly say I have seen some of the worst Photoshop 'jobs'on ST along with laughable sentence structure from others than him.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Feb 17, 2014 - 03:31pm PT
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anyone who slags on grammer on thease blogs is grasping @ straws and usually loseing an argument. the point of this whole process is raw and fast. bound to be full of typos..
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Feb 17, 2014 - 03:37pm PT
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One thing for sure, is that Honnold does get a lot of people debating and dropping their job after he soloed something. Attention from people is what his sponsors want. Coz, you do participate in it by continuing to talk about him. This attention does pay for his bills and possibly also encourage him to solo harder stuff. No one can argue that it seems bad ass to public, and humans are partly controlled by their ego and want attention. I hope his ego is tiny and he is not driven by it at all. And even if he is not driven by it I hope he does stop the big solo outings by choice and not by chance, which is always there when you do so much soloing it becomes a game of statistics. In the same time I hope he does go for his dreams and passions, lives a long life and is happy with it in the end. If he is willing to take his chances, that is his choice and I respect it (even though he shouldn't give a f*** about what I, you, him/her and what they think, his life his choices). I am sure most of the people on this forum wish him well, but have different ways of expressing their concerns.
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BruceAnderson
Social climber
Los Angeles currently St. Antonin, France
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Feb 17, 2014 - 04:05pm PT
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I always wonder where Honnold got the motivation to do his stuff. Did someone school him on the exploits of the former soloists, dropping a seed about how Bachar and Croft and rest were the most bad ass, back when Alex was just a youngin in the gym in Sacto? I mean he knows the history and it obviously made an impact on him. Perhaps we're all too blame a little bit for glorifying the "stone masters" and their accomplishments. When i started climbing i too thought the Bachar-Yerian was the end all be all and was star struck by the tales of Johnny Rock and the rest. Of course it didn't take long to realize I didn't have the skill or the balls to do that stuff.
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The Alpine
climber
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Feb 17, 2014 - 05:42pm PT
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I always that Josh Lowell made Sharma Sharma.
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nah000
climber
canuckistan
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Feb 17, 2014 - 07:43pm PT
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it's always a bit sad when those sitting in old folks homes project either their dreams or their nightmares onto the lives of those doing the living.
'cause, as has always been and will always be the case, the only guy/gal who knows whether or not their 2500' long and 12' girthed "dick" is filled with silicone and fear, is too busy working it to comment...
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