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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Feb 15, 2014 - 09:55pm PT
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Scotty, I tried to email you privately but ST would not let me. I wanted to say:
"May I make a friendly suggestion? Put your posts in a word processor that can check for spelling and grammar before you post the actual text into the wild. This can be done on mobil as well as laptop and desktop devices.
It is my belief that things will go quite a bit better for you and we your supporters if you had the assistance of a word processor like Word or Pages to keep your writing polished. Many of us here do this, by the way. I always do unless it is simply a sentence or so. Your points are important and you want to bring your best forwards.
best to you, Peter Haan"
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Feb 15, 2014 - 10:39pm PT
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We're all going to die if we keep it up . . . there are many paths that lead to our inevitable demise. Someday even the Earth will be quiet and still . . . the history of mankind will be blowing in the cosmic wind.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Feb 15, 2014 - 11:44pm PT
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I really been enjoying coz's recent writes here. If anybody has a problem with his posts, go back and read his account of the FFA on Southern Belle (for one thing) for some perspective.
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jgill
Boulder climber
Colorado
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Feb 16, 2014 - 12:54am PT
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^^^
The truth emerges . . .
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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Feb 16, 2014 - 03:15am PT
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Wasn't it mother's milk?
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Feb 16, 2014 - 02:46pm PT
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cozy could u spell better!!!!!
ZZZZZzzzz!
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Feb 16, 2014 - 02:50pm PT
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When is Sharma going to start soloing? Just when I get used to this whole new promotion of soloing, Coz has to go and throw tacks in the road. I loved that highball video of Lonnie Kauk at the Butters. Are we getting buttered up to take a fall? We are all in this together guys. We can call bullshit on the big promoters of this stuff and tell them to go F themselves.
Maybe TNF should change their mantra to; NEVER STOP STICKING YOUR NECK OUT.
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TwistedCrank
climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
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Feb 16, 2014 - 02:55pm PT
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If you spell like a third grader, you'll get treated like a third grader. Or a whiney narcissistic bitch, depending on the audience.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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Feb 16, 2014 - 03:31pm PT
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That's the vid I was referring to - Too Big to Flail (great name). We are getting hooked on the stuff.
It's fun to watch but...... Oh hell, who am I to worry about these guys. Bring it on!
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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Feb 16, 2014 - 04:04pm PT
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They are gonna do it regardless. Just the way that climbers have been doing since the beginning of the sports conception. Its just getting harder for us to comprehend because the progression of difficulty and risk seems to be too rapid. But is it??
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Feb 16, 2014 - 05:30pm PT
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cozy make sure u can spell I wouldn't want you to be confused or mistaken as a ESL student!!!
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pb
Sport climber
Sonora Ca
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Feb 16, 2014 - 06:13pm PT
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Is there a progression of risk in more mainstream climbing trends?
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pb
Sport climber
Sonora Ca
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Feb 16, 2014 - 06:51pm PT
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It seems the majority is drawn to safer styles of climbing. Some more experienced and older climbers believe this trend has made the activity more accessible. As a result, crags are more crowded. What was the topic again? Oh yeah, why were we taking potshots at Chris B?
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AndyO
Social climber
Brooklyn, NY
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Feb 16, 2014 - 07:34pm PT
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It's probably been 20 years since I've seen Belizzi, but what happened to that proud hippie beard and beer gut he used to sport at Jailhouse? I remember his claim to fame back when as being "the fattest 5.13 climber in America," or somesuch...
As for who is responsible for Chris' early development, I remember Andres Puhvel and Chris Bloch being influential. Puhvel even marketed himself through his Yo! Basecamp Seminars as "Chris Sharma's first teacher. Although the story I heard was that the first time young Chris came into the Santa Cruz gym, he was hiking 5.11s, without really being "coached" by anyone.
Maybe I can claim responsiblity. When I first heard of Chris, during the waning days of my short-lived teenage prodigy period,* he was described to me as "the new AndyO" ... but nahhh... I never held a candle to that kid.
*I was active in the early 90s, from about 14-19 years old, with some high place finishes at competitions and hard sport ascents. Then I devolved into what was described by my friend Jimi T in Climbing magazine as a "derelict West Coast youth in oversized jeans..." or something like that. Which was hilarious, and sort of true.
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redrocker
climber
NV
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Feb 16, 2014 - 08:44pm PT
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I'm unable to discern whether the OP started this thread as a lighthearted jest aimed at a friend of his (Chris Bellizzi), or if his intentions were less kind. I've chosen to assume it was the former....but....on the chance that it was the latter, may I just say.....
I've had the pleasure of spending some time with Chris Bellizzi twice.
Both times it was in the context of sharing a campsite and climbing days with a large group of climbers who had met up, on a road trip, at a destination where none of us were locals. Several in the group were mutual acquaintances of Chris and myself.
I'd never met Chris before and it didn't take long to see that he was somewhat of a character.
I liked him right away and the more I got to know him, over the course of both occasions, the more I liked him.
As to the question of Chris B claiming to play a part in the making of Chris S I cannot say. He made no such claims to me.
I've met Chris S two or three times but would not claim to be even an acquaintance of his. That said, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he shared my favorable opinion of Chris B.
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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Feb 16, 2014 - 09:22pm PT
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Only met Sharma a couple of times but as far as I can recall, in addition to the guys mentioned above, I think the guys who really made Sharma were.....
Jason Campbell
Tommy Caldwell
Timmy Fairfield
Dale Goddard.....
and any of the other early comp climbers who fell victim to superior talent. After leaving all these guys in the dust, he probably started to realize his potential. Fuel to the fire.
Also, he would probably give shouts to friends like Jimmy T, Boone Speed, or even David LeWinter. Positive motivators.
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wstmrnclmr
Trad climber
Bolinas, CA
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Feb 16, 2014 - 09:57pm PT
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Kenny.....Honnold put up "too big to flail" (http://climbingnarc.com/2012/01/alex-honnold-opens-new-highball-too-big-to-fail-in-bishop/);. Both Honnold and Kauk worked problem on top rope first but still amazing. I'm more impressed by JB's onsite solo's on thin face/slab. Maybe not as hard technically but very impressive mentally making them more impressive to me.
Edit: The article was on front page of site. Just put "too big to flail" in search.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Feb 16, 2014 - 10:36pm PT
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Bottom line the only one who made Chris Sharma, is a God given talent and a passion to match.
Very well said.
Also, I think coz forgot more about climbing than majority here will ever be able to comprehend. His opinion on the subject of Honnold is very honest and not at all offensive IMHO.
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