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moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Feb 5, 2014 - 10:13pm PT
Fine, Reeotch. Wallaceism, then.

It is still all wrong, though.

What are you saying, Willoughby?
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 5, 2014 - 10:15pm PT
It appears that most of those leaving messages on the blog:
why they disagree with evolution theories,
look fairly intelligent and write fairly well.

Sigh.

Even though many of us would like to dismiss creationists as inbred redneck cretins, unfortunately many of them are quite intelligent.
My very-liberal ex-wife was a doctor’s daughter from Memphis, TN. Her parents were well educated, intelligent, Republican, conservative, worldly,-------- and religious. They believed in a literal biblical interpretation.

I remember the ex-father-in-law dismissing fossils and the whole science of geology as: “God just playing some little jokes to test if folks are worthy of Heaven.” (or not).

However! I do not understand how people can spend time viewing western U.S. landscapes, and still believe the earth is only 6,000 years old.



Credit: Fritz


People are strange!
moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Feb 5, 2014 - 10:27pm PT
Read and learn!

"The Beginning

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day."

It is not the sixth day for me, but my work is dun hear!
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Feb 5, 2014 - 10:45pm PT
And on the sixth day... zzzzzzzzz
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 5, 2014 - 10:46pm PT
An federal government daily reaching further and further into people's lives, the IRS doing the political bidding of the administration, more people on welfare than the entire population of the US in 1880, division and rancor along racial and class lines, 90 some odd million people out of work who are capable of working, increasing trillions of dollars in debt, a health care system built on reprehensible lies that may eventually bankrupt the country---and what are people on this site worried and obsessed about in the social and political arena---the fact that a bunch of Baptists somewhere believe that a God created the universe.

oh the humanity !!!!

Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Feb 5, 2014 - 10:50pm PT

Rayleigh scattering.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayleigh_scattering
http://www.physicscentral.com/explore/pictures/sunset.cfm
http://apollo.lsc.vsc.edu/classes/met130/notes/chapter19/sunset_clean.html
moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Feb 5, 2014 - 10:54pm PT
"And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud [one] sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle."
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 5, 2014 - 11:11pm PT
Bruce Kay:
Yeah I think thats definitely one sure-fire to solve the seriously profound problems I outlined : let's just get Reverend Mosely and the 5th Ave. Baptist Church to admit they are morons ---and that we modern progressives are the smartest thing since sliced cheese---that'll solve everything.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 5, 2014 - 11:21pm PT
"Dude" people out there believe a whole lotta stuff that just isn't true. This is one thing that will not change in human nature.The enlightened ones won the last two elections...wheres the Beef?

Blaming it on Reverend Mosely is soooooo 2012. Those tactics are only good the first few times around.

Start talking about the real problems and quit trying to shift the blame onto someone kneeling in a church somewhere.


RasVegas

Trad climber
Goodyear
Feb 5, 2014 - 11:26pm PT
It's NOT "ignorant"...it's "IGNINT"!
moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Feb 5, 2014 - 11:38pm PT
Since only 15% people in the USA believe 15 percent say humans evolved without the assistance of God, then they must be wrong.

It's called DEMOKRASY.
Braunini

Big Wall climber
cupertino
Feb 5, 2014 - 11:46pm PT
stoopid americans
moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Feb 5, 2014 - 11:47pm PT
BTW

Why are we bashing Christians here?

Wasn't the Bible written by a Jew???
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Feb 5, 2014 - 11:48pm PT
One of my favorites. It's hard to imagine she's perpetrating multiple jokes here, but then again ... Kentucky


reminds me of a time I was having breakfast at the diner by Seneca. Waitress was going on and on about the new guy working there and how he seemed like a nice boy but an ATHEIST and her rant finally culminated with "If there's no God, HOW DOES HE EXPLAIN RAINBOWS? They're God's promise there won't be another flood!" I almost spat my waffles all over the table stifling a laugh.

I got quite a bit more frustrated watching that "debate" (is it a debate if there is so little actual discourse between the participants? "I'd like to have an argument, please") than I probably should have. Had to turn it off to let my brain reset a number of times but ultimately there was nothing new there.




Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Feb 6, 2014 - 12:05am PT
Moosedrool! Per your comment:
Since only 15% people in the USA believe 15 percent say humans evolved without the assistance of God, then they must be wrong.


I accept you pulled your post from the latest Gallup poll mentioned on Google.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/evolution-creationism-intelligent-design.aspx

However! Per the link: the poll indicates that 47% of Americans believe in evolution vs 46% that don't.

That 46% is still more evidence to me that:

People are strange!
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Feb 6, 2014 - 12:13am PT
"Obstructionists" they are now uh? Sounds like a creepy term from "The Outer Limits" or "The Twilight Zone"
They are never your next door neighbors , the Johnsons---no ,they are the "obstructionists" whose ideas must be eradicated if we are to deal with a burgeoning debt and chronically lying politicians.

"...they are a diminishing breed" is a faulty characterization quite the opposite ,since it is modern progressives who are aborting and value-systeming themselves out of existence. So much so that they must now import millions of third worlders to pay for their retirement checks and wash their dishes.
Third worlders, I might add, who are considerably more non-scientifically superstitious than the social media unemployed and unmarried 30 yr olds living in their parents basement---the demonstrable product of all this progressive enlightenment and teeming masses of new cognoscenti primed to vanquish the ignorant.

BTW: What are you climbing in your avatar photo? Looks nice.

That's El Camino Real on the western end of Tahquitz.
Excellent, excellent route.....classic lie -back action on the third pitch. First and second pitch features some real clean straight-forward slab moves on superb quality rock. That group of foliage below the photo is known as "the Jungle" at the top of pitch 2.
Did it back on last July 4. Every time I made a crux move the marching band from the Idyllwild parade below would strike up a rousing refrain, clearly heard from our position.

mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Feb 6, 2014 - 12:15am PT
Someone please pass these "creationists" a dictionary in return for their Bible...
Braunini

Big Wall climber
cupertino
Feb 6, 2014 - 12:34am PT
Plenty of dumb atheists out there too.














Just sayin'.

namaste

moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Feb 6, 2014 - 12:40am PT
Whattabout the damn thing we live in rite now?


Can't be fixed, sorry.

We've all been dupped.

I believe God is the ultimate troll.

Better than Braun even!

;)
Braunini

Big Wall climber
cupertino
Feb 6, 2014 - 01:09am PT
It is divinity that shapes, not only your ends, but also your acts, your words and thoughts.
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