Agreed, those aren't selfies.
If that word makes it into Webster (very possible) it will require the user to have their camera in their own hand at the time of the picture. Those are timer delayed self portraits.
you guys think they're heavily Photoshopped? I dunno.. I am no expert when it comes to that stuff. but I do think they're beautiful.
kind of sucks that we never know if an image online has been manipulated or not nowadays...
i must say, stirs the imagination. and a hard post to follow, but...
nothing wrong with taking pics of oneself and posting them. it's just the term itself, especially if a male uses it in that vernacular (as a self pic)imo! in that case, it's kind of pussy-whipped! like letting your wife, girlfriend, or significant other call you poopsie in public, "Here's a selfie of me, Poopsie, and friends during a group hug." ...just saying.
edit: what's happening to ST? i can't imagine Harding, Rowell, Frost (or whomever) captioning a photo, "a selfie of me and the boy's". sheesh
as far as emasculation goes, it's a subtle, insidious spiral. and amurica is well on its way. frankly, i don't really give a sh#t what amurica (ain't no flag waver) or anyone for that matter, chooses to do or say. so, feel free to wear a miniskirt, or a pink cowboy hat, etc (from another ST thread) at home and in public for that matter.
edit: and as far as "christianity" goes. like i said. "imo"(in my opinion)! ...reading comprehension, perhaps?
frankly, i just think it's a lame term. no matter who, male or female, uses it...period. stretching it a bit as far as it being PW, perhaps. but, lets just face it, sum of ya guys are well on yer way down the road to being PW!
ok, comparing the term 'selfie' to being PW was a rather bad analogy. i think a better one would be (imo) it being a rather childish sounding term (except if your referring to 'giving' yourself a selfie, that is). childish as in, "Oh look at the selfie i took, mommy and daddy!"
alright, i think i'm/we're way to over analyzing the damn term. like it or leave it, it's here to stay. i just couldn't pass up the opportunity to tweak some of ya's male machismo...seems to have worked.
edit: btw, if ya do happen to have a pink cowboy hat that's laying around in yer closet somewhere, try one of the male enhancements to offset PW effects ya may be feeling.
i'm with Lemmy...
blue-jeans short-shorts (jorts), pink cowboy hats, miniskirts, selfies...it's all good.
in fact, i think i'm gonna wear a pink thong when i crush SB and take a selfie (simply to rub it in every ones face). defiance (bold & defiant)...doesn't have anything to do with being PW. but then, there are those who are simply PW. yada, yada...
But, welcome to ST thread drift. So, one last post...
ST (sum of ya) have become so predictable. This thread, for instance. The OP initiates a great thread, and on topic in fact (mountain photography which incorporates self into the photo) and it immediately morphs into thread drift whining about, not only the OP's choice of one simple word, but numerous others (BITD, etc). Cudda' been a good and challenging thread (improving ones own pics by becoming more creative then displaying them).
I clicked on this thread after the first couple of posts. It looked like it had potential. Then checked back some 40 posts later and found 80% of them whining about a damn word...typical!
So I played along (in an attempt to make a point). I went with absurd assumptions, and a bunch of dumb, neither here nor there, statements. "Selfie" is pussy-whipped. Males shouldn't use it. It's childish, etc! Some of you peeps are very gullible, btw!
It's a simple internet abbreviation that has slowly become mainstream. It has immediate recognition as to what one is referring to. That can be beneficial. Don't use it if ya don't like it. Who cares if someone else chooses to. Why make an issue of it? Have some respect for what the OP took the time to present to us. Start another thread about why your drawers are all up in a bunch over a simple word instead of trashing this one...give it a chance. Happens to thread after thread on this site.
edit: I do think 'selfie' is kind of a lame term. We all have our opinions. But so what.
I don't consider myself to cower much when facing scary things....but that Lemmy dude, squicky big time PUCKER factor for me. I can smell the stale English Leather, old cigarette smoke and lack-of-shower standing in Mississippi humidity every time I see that pic.
It's a scratch and sniff gone way wrong.
here ya go, my "bold & defiant" selfie pic...
not sure how to post it upright (i'm a selfie posting n00b).
btw, "bold & defiant" - actually, i bought that hat at WALLMART (lol) before all the controversial hoopla broke out. i have a camo' Ducks Unlimited (world leader in wetlands & waterfowl conservation & identification, etc/plus, i like their duck paintings & carvings) hat that I'm rather fond of but can't seem to find. i happened to notice this one and bought it as a replacement a while back when i was in there to pick up a smartphone I had ordered online (been in the store maybe a dozen times over the past 20+ years/NTTAWT, imo). i've only watched part of a DD episode once when I stumbled upon it channel surfing (it was about teaching his daughter how to drive) i'm not a duck hunter & i wasn't aware that they were X'ians until all the hoopla hit. and (although i'm a believer) i don't agree with all of what the 'top duck' had to say (regarding blacks nor how he presented the gay sin issue) and so forth. so i'm not sure if i'll wear the hat anymore for those specific reasons. maybe to the next face lift, just to piss a few peeps off. ;)
Always stuff for the boat. This summer after HAwaii, over to Tahiti then down the Chilean Channel to the Southern Ocean. I'll be looking an awful lot like you in that second pic!!! When you're ready to jump the desert for the ocean be sure to let us know!
that one's pretty easy:
go for 3 weeks, sin shampoo.
everyday subject do to sap, dirt and sweat.
on the 21st day,
assume an inverted position
and brush out hair with very fine bristles.
people in holliwood pay stiff fees
for the salon rendition of the above referenced process.
I clearly have a lot to learn about how to do a selfie. Most folks would probably say, "don't bother". Some of you have it dialed in to a beautiful art form.
Riding with my homies today…Team Santa Cruz
^ exactly. pounded nails in the sub zeros in carson city, markleevile and mammoth. and the one hundred and sixteens in vegas, big pine and los banos. bunk weed was a mainstay. chasing the dragon and riding the choo choo temporarily comforted others. winters can be hell. summers a friggin bitch. getting through sum days were hairier than nailing an A5 pitch.
edit: 'riding the choo choo'- construction on the eastside was slow one summer. word had it that the westside (fresno, shaver lake, etc) was expanding. so i headed over and got a job in fresno with this framing crew doing condos from the slab up. we would meet the superintendent at a 7/11 on the outskirts of town at four in the morning. then b-line it for los banos. get there about an hour or so later and work until sunset. the crew was primarily made up of bikers and they worked non stop like bats outta hell. they passed on mid-morning break. then, when it looked like they weren't gonna stop for lunch (they didn't) i asked one guy what was going on. he says, "drink some water." i had a two gallon water jug and said i had been. he says, "drink some of our water." so i did. in about half an hour i was going mach ten like an amtrak train. i think i lasted about a week before i decided i had to bail from that job. crazy 1%'ers. crazy times.
Anita, air them puppies out a little! Maybe if I climbed harder than 5.9/5.10 I'd have a different story, but I always go for comfortable footwear because I can't push worth a dern if my feet hurt. And I wear socks. Bonus, no stink!
I haven't evolved to the point of being able to post pictures' so I'll just comment on observing yours;
drijefe, we could use you and your beard to clean first ascents.
moosedrool, please lower the bar back down.
Savage is so savage.
Lollie is actually Lolli and happy that she is.
Ron is in outer-space and in your bathroom.
Keep your Mom far from Larry.
Ghost hid the bomb in the main course.
I want to climb Hobbit Book too!
Queen Leggs gets blue messing with shutter speeds.
happiegrrl is trying to usurp Leggs as queen.
SCseagoat is trained in the use of dangerous tools.
Ron A. makes Donaid Sutherland look like one of the good guys.
Anita hasn't shown us what the other guys face looked like.
Norwegian has created a line of fine jewelry for Yeti.
Nita has some very shady friends.
Dr. Lefttoe wa implicated in the disappearance of an aspiring ballet artist.
MisterE spends quality time with his daughter and may be hiding on top of your refer. Look up.
Tahr got screwed and is still upset over it.
Norwegian and drijefe both pucker up nicely with their partners.
Mr Bean is the authority on "it tastes like chicken".
Check the pool if Craig Morris is missing.
Vitality is so hot.
Norton and Pyro are in the bar trying new pick-up lines on pretty girls.
Russ,BRB....there is so much more but lets keep "this just in" out of it
I'm sorry MC load I've been busting ur balls today. My post was only based on your posts over the past few days. I don't want to wreck this thread cuz it's pretty cool i think. I will just say that your constant negative, pessimistic comments on climbing threads & thinking you are justified for threatening women publicly online for any reason is cool should be more than enough reasons for anyone to be embarrassed. This has nothing to do with Burchey. You have done this all by yourself. Please don't reply here, let's keep the crap over on the JJ thread. There's room for everything there.
they don't look like office puke hands;
but i guess if you put them into the context
of my 'office' which has a fire going
and a chimney stuffed through a broken window
and rabbits hopping around the ground,
then i guess they qualify.
no we don't eat the bunnies.
in my house the bunnies rule,
and scuttling about the earthen floors
i am errant lint and i'm going to
adhere to the bunny broom when
he passes thru on his weigh to heaven,
because all bunnies go to heaven,
and when we arrive, all dead and no bodies
about, just a bunch of souls milling around
waiting for assignment from the son-of-bitch
called god i'm going figure out how
to rip that god a little bit apart and
then i'm going to exorcise his soul
and stuff mine into his filthy void
and immediately i'll begin cleaning house
and throwing out the judgement bullshite trash
and once that's done my soul will conduct
the cosmos anew,
like robert plant conducts an audience.
I am just glad it was not worse. If you look you can find all kinds of stuff on Cinch
failures on the internet. Some claim device failure some claim operator. Just glad I was only 25 ft up at the time and did not injure my spine or hit my head or something!
I was half way through a day of climbing and god knows it coulda happened much higher off the ground resulting in a much worse injury?
Still a broken heel and very injured second heel is nothing to shake a stick at. Could be a couple months recovery or it could be many months. My guess is at least 6-12 before I am back 100% if I am lucky enough to make a full recovery. From what I can tell it could go either way 50/50.
How much of a leg length discrepacy did you have? I also have one but only about .5 inches I am told mine is fairly normal. Still I have all kinds of soft tissue damage in that foot/ leg from favoring it all the time.
You and I just may be looking at a very similar recovery time. Right now if I can just make a 100% recovery not gain more than 10lbs and be ready for ice season next year I'll be a happy happy man.?
I have a pic of my epidural and catheter bag, if anyone wants to see..
Sanskara: 3-4cm diff. Ankle is being straightened too which should help mobility and stuff like steep slopes when hiking. I too will be happy if I recover 100% and not gain any weight. I'm most worried about losing muscle tone/fitness and whatever crappy climbing ability I have.
If all goes well I could be ready for fall Gunks climbing. And if it takes longer, then I can hit the weights and be in shape for ice. Just going to be a lamo summer.
We should start a SuperTopo gimp support group.
I'm most bummed that I did not end my climbing at the lake. I will miss it!
Justin, you're cruel, but it wasn't as bad as that. But it was reeeely stoopid.
Since I have no shame here it is. I had a bad case of athlete's foot or
in my case patzer's foot. The usual remedies weren't doing it so since I
attempt to live my life logically I invoked Aristotle and constructed a
sylogistic remedy. My premise was that isopropyl alcohol is a good disinfectant
and antimicrobial agent. My second premise was that if a little is good
then a lot must be better. I put my foot in the bathrub and poured alcohol
all over it. Oooh, it stung! That's good, right? It didn't occur to me
that alcohol in that quantity could cause a chemical burn. The blisters
opened up and got infected. By the time I went to the ER the admitting
doc took one look and said, "You're not going anywhere, chump." They
thought it was MRSA at first which was good thing as they put me in isolation.
When they decided it wasn't MRSA they still kept me in isolation when they caught
me perusing SuperTopo. If I posted a picture I'd get banned so I'm
leaving it to yer collective imagination. It wasn't pretty.
"A Psychiatric Study Reveals Selfies Are Far More Dangerous Than You Think Image Credit: AP
According to psychiatrist Dr. David Veal, seflies are more dangerous than you think ... far more dangerous.
"Two out of three of all the patients who come to see me with Body Dysmorphic Disorder since the rise of camera phones have a compulsion to repeatedly take selfies.
"Cognitive behavioural therapy is used to help a patient to recognise the reasons for his or her compulsive behaviour and then to learn how to moderate it," he told the Sunday Mirror.
Veal points to an extreme case, patient Danny Bowman, who allegedly spent up to 10 hours a day taking hundreds of selfies in a futile attempt to capture the perfect photo. He stopped attending school, lost "two stone" (around 28 pounds), stayed in his house for six months and fought with his parents. Eventually he tried to commit suicide.
"Danny's case is particularly extreme," said Veal. "But this is a serious problem. It's not a vanity issue. It's a mental health one which has an extremely high suicide rate."
Bowman was treated for OCD, technology addiction and Body Dysmorphic Disorder — a chronic mental health condition in which the sufferer obsesses over perceived flaws with their body.
Dr. Veal told the Sunday Mirror that "The common treatment is where a patient gradually learns to go for longer periods of time without satisfying the urge to take a photograph, along with therapy to address the root cause of the problem."
"This can be anything from low self esteem to problems with bullying in the past."
This is real: According to TIME, psychiatrists are beginning to consider a compulsion to take selfies "as a serious mental health problem."
A study titled "Tagger's Delight? Disclosure and liking behaviour in Facebook: the effects of sharing photographs amongst multiple known social circles" from three business schools in Europe found that people who post more selfies have more shallow relationships with people. Professors asked 508 Facebook users with an average age of 24 to rank how close they felt to friends, coworkers and relatives who also happened to be on the site. Then, they compared that data to the number of selfies the test subjects had posted.
The conclusion? "Increased frequency of sharing photographs of the self, regardless of the type of target sharing the photographs, is related to a decrease in intimacy" in personal relationships, wrote the authors.
According to Birmingham Business School professor and lead author Dr. David Houghton, "People, other than very close friends and relatives, don't seem to relate well to those who constantly share photos of themselves. It's worth remembering that the information we post to our 'friends' on Facebook, actually gets viewed by lots of different categories of people: partners; friends; family; colleagues and acquaintances; and each group seems to take a different view of the information shared."
So, seflies: narcissistic and correlated with a decrease in the intimacy of personal relationships. But dangerous seems like a stretch. Maybe the self-absorbed take more selfies, or those with fewer intimate relationships post them as a way of attracting attention. In cases like Bowman's, obsessive selfie-taking can be a symptom of pre-existing issues with self-esteem or more serious psychological disorders. And writes San Jose Mercury-News' Jessica Yadegaran, "psychologists say that in moderation, selfies are a feel-good and often creative way, particularly for teens, to chronicle their lives and emotions and express their personalities."
Clinical psychologist Lucie Hemmen says that "There's a continuum of health and authenticity in what you shoot and post. A secure, mature person is going to post selfies that are spontaneous and not overly engineered or edited, and they're going to do it less often. A more insecure person is going to post staged or sexualized photos, and they're going to do it so much that they become consumed by it and the comments they receive."
It's hard to do much when you can't walk. I am however catching up on all kinds of family time and reading. I understand your comment was direct toward Annita but is resinated with me.
Funny how when I am out climbing on the regular and in abundance I often think on the drive to the mountains tired and half stressed by the effort it takes to get out as frequently as I do. The other half stoked and excited for the days ahead how much of this do I really need to do. How many rock faces, ice flows and mountains need I summit to get my fill, how important is this obsession really in the grand scheme of things vrs how important do I tell myself it is. I would give it all up in a heartbeat for those I love and that love me to make their lives better if it would. As I often do think it would help if I had more time and resources to offer those I love. Clearly if it was not for my obsession with the mountains I would have much more time for others and resources to share with them. FYI I have no wife or children but that does not mean I don't have people that care for me desire my time or could use my help in a myriad of ways. Still though his compulsion pulls me back to the mountains time and time again.
Funny thing is after just two three days back home I forget all about that train of thought and NEED to escape to the mountains for the fresh air, quiet and piece my soul so longs for. In reality I really have less say over the subject than I would like to think I do...
Don't go getting pouty on us Anita. I love this thread even though I don't have any selfies ( prefer self portrait ) to share. I love the humor. I love the insights into personalities. I love the cool places people have been. I love the creativity that people show. I love how people take their perceived weaknesses and turn them into strengths. If I could capture that and sell it I could make a fortune, but mostly I would just love to be able to do it for myself.
You go girl. Get well. Spend this time getting well exploring some other things and please keep sharing them with us. I think it took a lot of courage to take the course you are on right now and I admire that. You are on the road less traveled.
Okay.. some folks will whine now that I'm too mushy… Well, screw them.
How many rock faces, ice flows and mountains need I summit to get my fill, how important is this obsession really in the grand scheme of things vrs how important do I tell myself it is.
For me, it's just about doing the act. Being one with nature, enjoying the views, challenging myself, enjoying what this planet has to offer us. If i get to the top that's great.(at least that's what I try and tell myself lol)
Solo aid lead is high on the bucket list this season if I can get this hoof healed up in time?
Being from the east and only having climbed for a small handful of years now free climbing is pretty much what I do. I do have a fantasy that involves solo big wall missions out west that sooner or later i intend t make reality.
Lol, not sure either. I was using a unmoded GriGri with clove hitch backups and boy is it a pain. Lol. Belayers are nice to have. It's kinda cool to just be all by yourself too tho. A good skill to have for sure.
no it's fine. I can take a hint.......................... I know when I'm not wanted.
I wouldn't be too concerned about that posted article,
unless you find yourself doing the mirror cleavage with heavy makeup selfies. :-)
It's normal for a young single woman to stay attractive, communicate with others and express her feelings.
Much better than locking yourself away with nonstop nachos!
Given that some of your usual entertainment options are blocked until your leg treatment is finished, and the pain level may prevent other projects, it's not unusual to post and shoot photos a bit more than before.
Hang in there, think, dream, express - it's all part of life.
You nailed it but I try not to admit that is how I really feel as its an attitude that does not bide well to finding good climbing partners.
If climbing has taught me anything is not only how to deal with people and a willingness to do so but also an appreciation for people that I did not have prior. Even the ones that drive me f*#king nuts and I don't see eye to eye with at all I have learnt to at least tolerate and In some ways even appreciate. I attribute it directly to climbing, it was a quality I was desperately in need of.
Still I posses your above stated sentiment at my core and imagine always will. I just know it is best to resist the temptation to sink to deeply into it. Non the less I remain largely self reliant and fulfilled as it is just what feels natural to me.
I got into climbing via ultr running. My draw and appeal to that was long amounts of time spent ALONE in the mountains.
I came to ultra running after burning out on cycling. Racing bicycles you spend many many hours all by yourself week in and week out in the saddle. I loved this part of cycling. I enjoyed the racing aspect also but hated the emphasis put on competition. I love competing within myself. It gets ugly when people start competing with people imop. At least this is what racing taught me about myself.
I think I will really really like solo aid climbing. From what I am told and can figure aid climbing is nothing if it is not work. Being a reformed endurance athlete junkie I think I will thrive on the work aspect. I hope the solo component to just be the icing on the cake.
Do you have any goals set with regard to the nose. Before this foot I was thinking of trying my first solo big wall not this season but next season.