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karen roseme

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san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2014 - 10:13am PT
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/01/world/europe/united-nations-court-rules-against-japan-in-whaling-dispute.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0

U.N. Court Orders Japan to Halt Whaling Off Antarctica

karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2014 - 11:29am PT
[UPDATE: SeaWorld Gave Valium To Whales For "Grotesque" Behavior Unnatural In The Wild]

Trainers at SeaWorld have been documented administering psychoactive drugs to some of their marine mammals, according to new documents obtained by Buzzfeed. The website obtained an affidavit filed in the Ontario Superior Court of Justice in a dispute between the SeaWorld and Marineland over the transport of a killer whale, Ikaika, to SeaWorld.

https://www.thedodo.com/seaworld-admits-to-giving-orca-492562391.html

https://www.thedodo.com/exclusive-blackfish-the-cove-c-399531056.html
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2014 - 07:17pm PT
Help Bring an End to Orca Captivity in California - Support AB 2140

http://www.congressweb.com/awi/44/thankyou?resultId=29DFE11A-CB34-6093-36DA75472F6679B6



Please call your Assembly member (but not other members) today with a brief, polite message urging them to support AB 2140! Assembly members can also be contacted by letter, fax, or email to let them know that protecting orcas is important to you.
The Orca Welfare and Safety Act (AB 2140) will receive its first hearing in the Committee on Water, Parks and Wildlife of the California State Assembly on Tuesday, April 8th at 9 a.m. Please attend to show your support for the bill and, if you wish, to speak up on its behalf. All those wishing to provide public comment in support of the bill will be allowed a chance to do so. You will only be required to state your name, any affiliation and your support for the bill.

(Room 437, Legislative Office Building, 1020 N Street, Sacramento, CA 95814). Please arrive early to secure your place in the room.
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2014 - 08:53pm PT
Credit: karen roseme

Hey where dod that video go? I was just about to watch it!
okie

Trad climber
Apr 7, 2014 - 12:04am PT
Yeah, saw the documentary "Blackfish." Pretty horrendous. That flaccid dorsal fin says it all.
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Apr 7, 2014 - 12:15am PT
I have eaten muktuk: bowhead whale blubber.

In an eskimo village where they are allowed to hunt.

I agree that holding these creatures in little fish bowls is a cruel thing, though.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 8, 2014 - 02:53pm PT
"California Bill Ending SeaWorld Orca Shows Stalls"

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/calif-bill-end-seaworld-killer-whale-shows-23232546

"A California bill that sought to end killer whale shows at SeaWorld in San Diego and phase out keeping them in captivity has been put on hold, meaning it's dead for the year.

The bill's author, Democrat Richard Bloom of Santa Monica, agreed on Tuesday during the first committee hearing for AB2140 to revisit his proposal after further study.

He says lawmakers weren't ready to vote and that the discussion to date has been fueled by fear and misinformation.

Bloom was inspired by the documentary "Blackfish." The filmmakers argue that captivity and mistreatment of orcas make the animals aggressive and has led to attacks on trainers.

Dozens of animal rights activists packed the hearing room to support the bill, which will not be taken up again until sometime next year."




They were too chicken to even vote.

If not now, when? If not in California, where?


karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 9, 2014 - 10:14am PT
Hey Chaz,

Here is another one from the LA times

Panel delays action on killer-whale show ban, says more study needed


Assemblyman Anthony Rendon (D-Lakewood), chairman of the Parks, Water and Wildlife Committee, said the issue of killer whales in captivity is too complex to be decided after a hearing of less than two hours.
The panel's action, called sending a bill to "interim study," triggers a process that will last until at least mid-2015, Rendon said. The action did not require a vote.
Naomi Rose, marine mammal scientist at the Animal Welfare Institute, one of the bill's backers, said she was disappointed by the committee's move but pleased that discussion about killer whales will continue.
SeaWorld officials had told the committee that the bill would cripple the park's program of rescuing injured animals in the wild. Also, SeaWorld officials suggested that SeaWorld would ship its killer whales out of California before the bill became effective.


http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-killer-whale-ban-committee-delay-20140408,0,3028399.story#ixzz2yOlYwjbI



Not the best news but not the worst either!
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 9, 2014 - 11:49am PT
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marthasullivan Guest

The San Diego Tourism authority reports that 12% of overnight visitors to San Diego visit SeaWorld -- that is NOT a "major driver to the region's tourism economy". Disney's 2 parks in Anaheim and Universal Studios' in Hollywood each draw more visitors than any of SeaWorld's parks, and they do not feature performing wild animal species. SeaWorld can evolve its 50-yr-old business model away from this archaic practice and provide a much more realistic and thrilling experience for its visitors via the cutting edge digital technology for which California is renown.


rjc1978 Guest

"Among the topics to be studied would be whether orcas in captivity live as long as orcas in the wild, whether it is practical to build sea pens, and whether the orcas are suffering, as the AB 2140 backers insist, or thriving, as SeaWorld insists.". So if the Orcas live as long as their brethren in the wild and its impractical to build "sea pens" and they're enjoying being used as circus animals for our entertainment then what the hell let the show go on! Great rationalization - and because the Orcas captor (Seaworld) insists that these beautiful and intelligent creatures are thriving in captivity is really an objective point of view$$$$$$$$!« less


cuvvy

Sport climber
arkansas
Apr 10, 2014 - 04:51pm PT
12% seems like a lot. If one were to get a 12% pay raise that would be significant! If 12% of the population were to vanish overnight that would be significant!
Not sure kids need to watch more digital anything.

karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2014 - 05:07pm PT
Court upholds ruling against SeaWorld
A legal setback for SeaWorld could change how its trainers interact with killer whales. A federal appeals court says SeaWorld violated workplace safety laws in a situation tied to the death of a female trainer in 2010. NBC's Ron Mott reports.


http://www.today.com/video/today/54936062#54936062
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 15, 2014 - 09:33am PT
"Blackfish" Responds To SeaWorld's 69 Critiques


SeaWorld has issued yet another critique against the film, "Blackfish." This critique is more detailed, yet is equally specious and misleading. So, once again, the "Blackfish" production team has crafted a rebuttal.

What makes this latest effort unique is the timing. It comes on the heels of AB2140, the groundbreaking legislation that seeks to bring an end to “orcas for entertainment” in California.

Although "Blackfish" served as a portal of entry for the many controversial issues surrounding whales in captivity and trainer safety, the bill was introduced because millions have since chosen to seek their own answers. And they have largely come to the same conclusion as the film: killer whales are not suited to captivity and the trainers who work in close proximity to them aren’t safe (a conclusion reaffirmed by the recent U.S. Court Of Appeals rejection of SeaWorld’s appeal of OSHA’s citations).

Furthermore, "Blackfish" exercised considerable discipline in its storytelling, choosing not to cover the many issues that are now surfacing about SeaWorld:




The administration of benzodiazepine (Valium) to many killer whales who are said to be experiencing grief, stress or anxiety.
The circumstances surrounding the deaths of multiple whales.
The circumstances involving the injuries of multiple trainers.
The scant amount of revenues (roughly .06% of $1.5 billion a year) that SeaWorld puts toward conservation.
SeaWorld’s ongoing methods of obtaining marine mammals from the wild.

https://www.thedodo.com/community/GabrielaCowperthwaite/blackfish-responds-to-seaworld-510315316.html
locker

Social climber
"Sh#t shack across from the city dump"
Apr 15, 2014 - 09:45am PT


"The administration of benzodiazepine (Valium) to many killer whales who are said to be experiencing grief, stress or anxiety."...


^^^

Not so sure that one in particular is a bad thing...(Unless the drug is being abused)

We do the same for HUMANS...
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 22, 2014 - 10:34am PT
Earth Day 2014: Whales at the White House

Credit: karen roseme


Join Dr. Sylvia A. Earle, Founder, Mission Blue/Sylvia Earle Alliance, along with Dr. David E. Guggenheim, the “Ocean Doctor” (president of Ocean Doctor and Board Member of the Great Whale Conservancy), with Michael Fishbach and Dr. Gershon Cohen, Co-Directors of the Great Whale Conservancy, for a unique Earth Day event on Tuesday, April 22nd, 2014 (Earth Day) at 2pm ET on the Ellipse below the South Lawn of the White House in Washington, DC.

Special Guest of Honor: Mz Blue, Great Whale Conservancy’s life-size 90-foot blue whale inflatable (see photo to right)!
Purpose: To ask President Obama to direct the Navy to remove its objection to the use of an alternate shipping lane in California waters to reduce the killing of blue whales from ship strikes.
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2014 - 10:18am PT
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https://www.thedodo.com/the-5-dumbest-things-seaworld--521507954.html



Last December, the Orlando Business Journal published an online poll to determine whether or not “Blackfish” had altered Orlando residents’ perception of SeaWorld. When the results came in, they seemed overwhelmingly favorable to the theme park -- until a simple look at responders’ IP addresses revealed that the incredible positivity came from a single computer network … at SeaWorld.


In an interview with CNBC this past January, Stephen Schwarzman -- CEO of Blackstone, SeaWorld’s primary shareholder at the time -- said that orca trainer Dawn Brancheau “violated all the safety rules” SeaWorld had in place at the time of her death. Facing intense backlash, SeaWorld was immediately forced to distance itself from Schwarzman’s comments.


Credit: karen roseme

I totally agree Base!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Apr 27, 2014 - 10:21am PT
Base: agreed!


Here's the trailer for Louie's next movie:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/25/6-trailer_n_5214765.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

knowing the sh#t that Shawn can get himself into some of this stuff will have you at the edge of your seat.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 27, 2014 - 12:22pm PT
From the L.A. Times:

"SeaWorld San Diego has 10 orcas: four caught in the wild, six born in captivity."

"SeaWorld San Diego, which drew 4.6 million visitors last year, employs 4,500 workers during the summer, and pays $14 million a year in rent to the city for property on Mission Bay. Forty percent of SeaWorld visitors stay in local hotels, and the average visitor spends $371 a day, compared with $177 for all tourists..."


That's a hell of a lot of economic activity generated by just ten whales.



Here's what they'd be doing if they weren't busy performing tricks for sardines:

http://blog.sfgate.com/stienstra/2014/04/26/orcas-attack-gray-whales-in-monterey-bay-11-pics/#22796101=0

"With the calf pushed to the side of its mother, the orcas then dragged the baby whale below the surface and drowned it"



cuvvy

Sport climber
arkansas
Apr 27, 2014 - 06:19pm PT
I like that big blowup whale!!!!!!
I would agree maybe they could put more into conservation,I suppose we all should give 1 percent of our wages to such causes. After all, many give 10 percent to the church and all they seem to do is promote guilt and hatred toward non conformists.
But, you have to admit, there is a lot of economic benefit to having a few of those cute little buggers doing the occasional trick(especially if the above statistics are close to accurate)
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2014 - 09:55am PT
Nature,

I think the new film is going to be a great one! I really hope it gets people motivated to try and change things.

Chaz and cuvvy,

No one wants Sea world to close it's doors. We want them to change their business model and no longer torture whales and dolphins for entertainment.
They are perfectly capable of coming up with other forms of entertainment.
Their attendance numbers will continue to decline until they make changes!

There are protests all over May 24th! I'm going!
There are protests all over May 24th! I'm going!
Credit: karen roseme
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2014 - 10:10am PT
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Driver Leilani Munter, the rare combination of female NASCAR superstar AND dedicated animal rights activist, is revving up for Talladega Superspeedway, by debuting her brand-new “Blackfish” inspired car this May. The driver, who has been an outspoken opponent of cetaceans in captivity, is not new to driving cars for a cause -- in 2012, she took to the track in a car inspired by the Oscar-winning documentary “The Cove,” a film that exposed the brutal dolphin slaughter in Taiji, Japan.

Now, Munter is strapping herself into the “Blackfish” car to raise awareness for orcas in captivity and to shut down SeaWorld as we currently know it. In an interview with The Dodo she spoke about her dedication to animal rights -- from volunteering at a wildlife rescue and being a Cove guardian to transitioning into a vegan diet. She also revealed what it’s like to ride in a whale of a car:


https://www.thedodo.com/she-rides-for-blackfish-nascar-526293830.html

Yay!
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