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cuvvy

Sport climber
arkansas
Mar 13, 2014 - 11:58am PT
Whales are nasty creatures who pollute our swimming waters with their poop and pee.
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 13, 2014 - 10:09pm PT
Hey cuvvy,
How is the 2nd grade?
Do you like your teacher?


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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 13, 2014 - 10:57pm PT
Really though, i guess we should outlaw "ownership" of dogs and cats as well.

Just give 'em some time.
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2014 - 11:37am PT
Credit: karen roseme


Credit: karen roseme
Chewybacca

Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
Mar 14, 2014 - 03:59pm PT
Karen, thanks for the updates and I commend you for not feeding the trolls. If one ignores them they will go elsewhere to get that attention they need so badly.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Mar 14, 2014 - 06:30pm PT
Coz said:
"....you guys have absolutely no answer or science behind what you're doing."

Science? Of course not, this is totally emotions. But I'm onboard, that crap has always made me uncomfortable, never took my family there. Went the circus once with them, felt the same way with a few acts. (ie, elephants and lions made to perform for money, forced to live a in a f*ed up environment totally non- native to them)
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2014 - 10:21am PT
Thanks Chewybacca and Couchmaster,
There is absolutely no science in making wild animals do tricks for food.
More whales and dolphins will not die in the wild if they are not held in captivity.
Children should learn to respect animals not learn that they are here for their entertainment.
Credit: karen roseme

http://themonstersamongus.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/prosecute-lima-teenagers-that-used-a-distress-dolphin-as-a-toy/


http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/03/11/saving-seaworld10-california-bans-orcas-captivity-richard-bloom-killer-whales?cmpid=tpanimals-eml-2014-3-15-seaworld10
cuvvy

Sport climber
arkansas
Mar 16, 2014 - 09:48pm PT
Ouch! Good one!
2nd grade was quite nice. Seems like just yesterday. Really wasn't that long ago.
I remember a trip to the zoo to see all the imprisoned animals.
I'm pretty sure I thought about that at the time. Why did they have to live like that?
But, it was a fun out of school adventure.


karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2014 - 04:55pm PT
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skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 17, 2014 - 05:48pm PT
There is no science behind this...it hasn't been researched as far as I can tell. Someone would have to pay for that research generally, or perhaps a college student working on a masters or doctorate. But I can tell you that my kids and I feel we have learned more by watching videos like the BBC's Blue Planet and Planet Earth or National Geographic vids on various topics than going to Sea World. Even the Monterey Aquarium is a much better option. Kids just see cute animals at seaworld, whereas informational videos can (not always that is for sure) show much more of a creatures' lifestyle. Learning to respect nature is different than learning to be entertained by nature. So what I am saying is that the replacement for Sea World is already out there and has been for years; Wildlife videos. Educate yourself.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 17, 2014 - 07:31pm PT
Jeeze. I think it's obvious that Karen wants to willfully destroy the established method that teaches people that these animals are there to entertain us and to be screwed with. If you can't put yourself in the other persons shoes, you'll never understand what they are saying or where they are coming from. I'm saying that it has already been replaced by good wildlife video work. Show the kids the videos. Go to the aquarium. Done deal.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 17, 2014 - 08:04pm PT
skcreidc +1
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2014 - 10:16am PT
skcreidc x3
cuvvy

Sport climber
arkansas
Mar 19, 2014 - 09:53am PT
I suppose if you want to get rid of circuses, zoos, and ban humans from owning dogs, cats, turtles, birds, fish,etc, outlaw making dogs do tricks for treats, and the like, I could go along with your petition.Oh, and of course dog breeders who pump out unnecessary quantities of animals for profit. But, if youve got animals in captivity and a dog youve taught tricks for your amusement,im not buying into it.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 19, 2014 - 09:57am PT
guess ill mention the fact that on the missing airplane thread Karen makes fun of it. 200 plus lost people a joke to her. Meh..
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2014 - 10:43am PT
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ps... I like the new ron better
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2014 - 10:28am PT
http://www.takepart.com/video/2014/03/21/drone-video-dolphin-stampede

http://www.opb.org/news/article/are-whales-at-risk-from-navy-sonar-training-plans/

Credit: karen roseme
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2014 - 01:42pm PT
Swim with Dolphins, Then Eat Them? If Taiji's Horrifying Marine Park Happens, Tourists Could Do Both


http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/10/09/dolphin-marine-park-taiji-japan-eat-dolphins


Says one activist: Visiting dolphins in a Taiji marine park would be ďlike taking a tour of a mental institution; they are severely traumatized.Ē

Credit: karen roseme
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2014 - 10:33am PT
Meet the Lawmaker Behind the #SeaWorld10 Bill to End Orca Captivity


http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/03/24/meet-lawmaker-behind-seaworld10-bill-end-orca-captivity

"As for their second argument, I completely understand the economic value and jobs that SeaWorld provides. But I donít think anybody would ever argue that we can justify jobs by supporting bad conduct. We can have disagreements about that, but thereís no intention whatsoever to do economic harm to SeaWorld. Itís a weak argument. They have a whole bunch of other exhibits and theme-park rides. Their business model doesnít depend on orcas."


What can people inside or outside California do?

Anybody interested can contact legislators here. Of course, itís most meaningful for legislators to hear from their own constituents. And itís important to keep this debate civil. Thereís been very uncivil discourse going on. This is an important topic, but one we can engage in civilly. A petition for the bill has upwards of 1.5 million online signatures. Itís heartwarming to know that a lot of folks are supporting this. Anything that even approaches that number is indicative of just how strong public sentiment is on this issue. Iíve done some things before that were pretty popular, but this really is on a far different level.
karen roseme

Mountain climber
san diego
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2014 - 02:07pm PT
https://www.thedodo.com/curious-orca-whales-swim-right-482325718.html

Curious Orca Whales Swim Right Under Shocked Paddle Boarder
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