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Modesto Mutant

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 29, 2013 - 06:02pm PT
Suffered a head injury while skiing in the French Alps:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/29/sport/motorsport/michael-schumacher-skiing-f1-motorsport/
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
Dec 29, 2013 - 06:08pm PT
I spent 15 days in the same hospital, CHU - Grenoble, after a bad bicycle crash. Outstanding trauma surgeons. Post operative care, so-so. Best wishes to Michael.
this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 29, 2013 - 06:38pm PT
Damn, hoping the best for Schumi.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 30, 2013 - 11:08am PT

An update from Schumacher's doctors
this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 30, 2013 - 11:17am PT
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2304895/R-I-P-Million-Dollar-Man-OT
Maybe this one is better for you Locker.

As a F1 fan I am really bummed by this. To survive all those races and now fight for his life from skiing. Reminds me a little of Reardon, being taken by a wave.
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climber
north fork
Dec 30, 2013 - 11:26am PT
Most sports figures do not die as a result of their profession...

That's because most sports don't require one to risk their lives each time they suit up.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 30, 2013 - 11:27am PT
Hang in there Mike....


I was luckey enuf to talk to him once at the SuperNats, he was getting ready to return to F1 and did a surprise arive and drive in a shifter. (TonyKart) .....I work the grid and get the drivers into their proper starting positions. He told me he really loved living in San Diego cause he could go out with his wife and nobody ... well almost nobody .... would reconize them and he could be just another person...he liked that.

I hope you live to be a 100.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 30, 2013 - 11:34am PT
Locker... come on.

driving F1, is about the most balsey thing a human can do.... the fact that we dont loose 2 or 4 drivers every year, like it was BITD (1976) .... is a testament to brilliant engineering.
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climber
north fork
Dec 30, 2013 - 11:36am PT
Obviously you know nothing about f1 and this isn't a thread to argue on. Have a good day locker.
stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Dec 30, 2013 - 11:50am PT
Hope he recovers.

And let this be a little reminder to wear your helmet while skiing, biking, climbing. Doesn't take too much of an impact to cause some significant trauma.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 30, 2013 - 11:58am PT
Jeez, Locker, you out of glue? The guy has a wife, two kids, two dogs,
and by all accounts is very humble and down to earth.

He was wearing a helmet and, worst of all, he was with one of his sons.
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Dec 30, 2013 - 11:59am PT
I think Senna was the last death in F-1 racing. Yes a testament to the advances in saftey. Hope he makes it through, sounds like he was taken care of quickly, which is magic in head trauma.
Peace
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Dec 30, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
Jeez, Locker, you out of glue? The guy has a wife, two kids, two dogs,
and by all accounts is very humble and down to earth.

He was wearing a helmet and, worst of all, he was with one of his sons.


++
Edit: Locker, maybe you missed..or are.. unaware of how you come across to some people.

either way, i hope he pulls through. It has to be horrible for his family.*

edit: If you knew me , you would know...I rarely follow the crowd... cronies, LOL, i've never met anyone on this thread....smell you later.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 30, 2013 - 12:36pm PT
Hi locker. As always seemingly innocent observations an be taken the wrong way in a thread like this. I got what you wrote. I get what Shumacher (and Reardon) fans are saying too.

Its cool, dude. But you gotta let people grieve in their own way. If you poke them with sticks expect a reaction ;)

DMT

ps. patton was killed by an errant donkey cart. After all he went through! A f*#king DONKEY CART, man! Nawmsayin?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 30, 2013 - 12:40pm PT
Come on now man... :)

DMT
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 30, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
Locker...I couldn't understand your point...? Thinking so hard left me with a hurt butt...
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 30, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
I figured out YOUR simple point. Did you figure out mine?

Cheers
DMT
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 30, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
Let my brain air out...? What did you mean by that..? Take my helmet off..? I'm thinking about getting in touch with the RAT...!
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 30, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
Ray Bradbury (thanks blahblah) captured the sentiment well in the Martian Chronicles,

Its like finding out the Romans died of athlete's foot.

DMT
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 30, 2013 - 12:59pm PT

Some words about what motivates Schumacher and his former accidents:

"Several newspapers have reminded readers of Schumacher's lucky escapes in the past. Schumacher's first title-winning season was marked by the tragic death of Ayrton Senna, but the German often experienced near misses. He survived crashes unscathed in 1995 and 1998. In 2001, Schumacher broke his lower leg during a training accident. In February 2009, he had to postpone his comeback after a motorcycle crash, in which he fractured his skull.

Felix Gorner, a racing reporter from RTL television channel, said the latest accident could only be understood within the context of Schumacher's history as a F1 driver. "He wanted the adrenaline rush, he needed to test his own limits", he said, pointing out that the other hobbies Schumacher had taken up included motorbike racing and skydiving. His former manager Willi Weber had described Schumacher as an "adrenaline junkie"."
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 30, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
Locker, sorry, nuthin' personal but please don't indulge in such deep diatribes
so early in the morning. You gotta keep yer audience in mind.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 30, 2013 - 01:14pm PT
Hey, you missed my admission of understanding yer point. So there, we're even!
Jeremy Ross

Gym climber
Dec 30, 2013 - 01:17pm PT
I'm hoping Schumi pulls through. On the circuit Schumi was an absolute beast. A machine solely focused on winning. But everything I've ever read and have seen of Schumacher outside of the racing world shows a different Michael; a generous and caring person. I remember when his body guard was killed in the Philippines Tsunami he donated 10 million dollars...I remember reading that was more than some countries! He adopts stray dogs he finds at races! And he's "keen on rock climbing" so I hope he pulls through because he seems like a generous, good human being.

The topic isn't so OT after all...

Credit: Google

Credit: Google


-JR
this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 30, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
Locker, when you posted then deleted how this is big news in the climbing world with a bold TFPU. That really shows how much you care about the incident. I should have just let it go but I posted your link about another non-climbing legend. Then you decided to make this thread about arguing.
I am at fault too. Nowhere have I said it would have been better to die in a motor crash. My point was I am bummed to see a guy survive one of the deadliest sports and at such a young age fighting for his life cause of skiing. He is an adrenaline junkie, just like the rest of us and hopefully he continues to be.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 30, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
I need a hug...
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 30, 2013 - 01:31pm PT

Cool Jeremy.

Back to OT: Michael Schumacher has spent many winter holidays in Trysil, Norway, skiing and playing football with Nybergsund football team
Michael Schumacher and Nybergsund football team
Michael Schumacher and Nybergsund football team
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Dec 30, 2013 - 01:46pm PT

Arthur C Clarke captured the sentiment well in the Martian Chronicles,

Its like finding out the Romans died of athlete's foot.

Fact checker and sci-fi fan here:
Martian Chronicles was Ray Bradbury.

Now everyone get back to telling Locker what an A-hole he is--as if he doesn't know!
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 30, 2013 - 01:48pm PT
Jeremy... cool, thanks for finding the climbing stuff.

The man has arms that look like he could crush it with the best of the 5.15 folks... one fit dude and he is humble about his place in the racing world.

I hope he is wearing his lucky sharks tooth... you can see it in the climbing potos.

hang in there....


EDIT.... Locker you changed your post... no one will understand what the heck is going on. Or why.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 30, 2013 - 01:53pm PT
Locker.

You say:
"While dude's in the hospital or wherever he is...
100's of kids around the world just died of starvation..."

Children around the world starving... that's a worthy case... if this is one of your real concerns and a concern you want to address instead of the accident that at present occupies your attention, you could start and run a thread supporting the children...
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 30, 2013 - 01:56pm PT
Thank you blahblah for the correction of my BLAHtant mistake! :)

I'll correct my post, with acknowledgement.

DMT
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 30, 2013 - 01:59pm PT
Locker.

Well spoken, and I guess donating privately is what many posters do...
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Dec 30, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
You get our attention, Locker. That's the most important "what's-in-it-for-me" part of it. I guess you know. ;o)
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climber
north fork
Dec 30, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
Some F1 and Schumacher stats

http://racing-reference.info/driver/schummi01

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_driver_records
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Dec 30, 2013 - 03:52pm PT
Hey Locker, when ya gonna be back in this area, want to hang again, always enjoy yer company. I get ya, and if ya don't know you, ya might not get ya, that's what I like about you, not run of the mill. Schumey was one hellova driver, as you were saying, too bad it had to happen to him the way it did. It's all GUD Brother!
Peace
Modesto Mutant

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 30, 2013 - 03:54pm PT
Thanks for those links This Just In. Schumi is unquestionably the greatest F1 driver of all time. The person who may have been even better was of course Ayrton Senna. Eerily, Shumi was in the car behind Senna when he had his fatal crash. And now the next great champion, fellow German Sebastian Vettel is poised to surpass the great Schumacher.

Hoping Schumi pulls through this.
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Dec 30, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
Yer azzhole.....yes, the dips....no! Let me make this clear to YOU and the others, read my last post and tell me what you don't get??? I spelled it out pretty clear.
Yeah, get yer butt hole back here so we can humor each other and Dwain too, he needs some lightness too. Talked to him the other evening and we all need to spend some time hanging
Peace
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Dec 30, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
And I thought the others were at least of average IQ...

I guess not...

Only half of them…assuming an unselected cross-section.

Curt
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Dec 30, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
Go sniff some GLU!
Peace
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Dec 30, 2013 - 04:55pm PT
Gotta be at least one more on here besides me..



Aw shucks Locker, I'm here.
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Dec 30, 2013 - 06:56pm PT
Come see me Brother, I'll take care of you. The resoles you did we're KILLER! Take some time off and relax, yer bung hole needs it!
Peace
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Dec 30, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
Hope he heals up. Good thoughts going his way.
Erik
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 30, 2013 - 08:07pm PT
I hope Locker heals up and gets the strength back in his noodle...
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Dec 30, 2013 - 11:09pm PT
Hell Locker, I'm in! GUD enough for you, good enough for me.
Peace
Sgt. PyleZ

climber
OneWorld, Earth
Dec 30, 2013 - 11:34pm PT
Locker, ur a f'ing azz hole, arguing for the sake of argument. Get over yourself, show some respect, and go get stoned and forget about it!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Dec 31, 2013 - 07:10am PT
hey there say, all, ... prayers for the family...

head injury, even if he can get through this, will be a long hard trail...
it's good for many to know, and be in his corner, for him to get well...
thanks for sharing...
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Dec 31, 2013 - 08:22am PT
probably cross training to stay in shape,

quit with the "shumi" stuff already, unless you had dinner with the guy or something, or he calls you by your nickname, i know, trying to be cool but it seems lame,

remember sony bono? hit that tree hard, tree had a bulls eye painted on it, how weird is that?

couchmaster

climber
pdx
Dec 31, 2013 - 09:05am PT
Kind of reminds me of Kurt Albert who died while on a Via Ferrata he could have flown up with his eyes closed 99.9 percent of the time.

First I got what Locker said, then I didn't get it, then I did, then I didn't, then confusion:...pretty much left with confused, and I might tie in the the guy still if he could remember which hand goes on the brake side....which at this time is in question.(I'm teasing here Locker)

You just have to say WTF sometimes: sh#t happens, hope he heals up fine.

this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 31, 2013 - 10:49am PT
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/31/sport/motorsport/michael-schumacher-accident/

Update on his condition, a little improvement, but still to early to tell.
this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 31, 2013 - 11:12am PT
Credit: this just in
This pic from Austin (COTA) was Schumacher's second to last race of his career. Even though he was past his prime it was cool to watch a legend.
One more
Credit: this just in

And one of "Baby Schumi" or "Seb" or Sebastain Vettel or Mr. Vettel after giving up the lead to Hamilton.
Credit: this just in

Capturing a F1 car with a point and shoot is a challenge, ended up erasing a lot of empty track shots that should have had a car in them.
this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 31, 2013 - 11:38am PT
It's all Gud. Or as Pantera would say, "Yesterday don't mean shit"
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 31, 2013 - 01:31pm PT
I love it when talent gets the ride, Schumacher has the talent and once he got the good ride... (he made Ferrari a better team when he joined up) he made the most of the chance.

I hope he pulls through.

a little racing action...



this was when going fast was the object, not slowed down cars...
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 31, 2013 - 02:48pm PT
Cars are WAY faster than BITD.... which is why Schumi re-retired at 43 with nothing other than past glory.

Mental... Yes and NO.... BITD there were very few rules, there was min weight, max wheelbase, max height and some other technical stuff about moveable wings... etc.

F1 was about building a better mousetrap

Now its all about ... slowing them down, making less power, less grip,CHEAPER to own and operate and GIZMOES to fake it... read KERS and DRS or whatever they let you use if your within 1 second..... so you can catch up....... all BS IMHO

This slowing them down is what made Schumacher so good, he was able to adapt and still be a winner, of Races and Championships.

And like all (or most) racers, you know when your reactions are slipping.

guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 31, 2013 - 05:50pm PT
Just think how fast they would be if engineers were free to dream....

and true, that todays F1 are faster than the old ones were, but the BS about no refueling, running all the compond tires, penalities for blown motors etc.... takes away the different strategies that are core to running F1.


Schumacher was good, but Ferrari made him great!

beg to differ on that one, it was the other way around. Ferrari was good but when Michael joined them they were having reliability problems.... hard to win a championship when you get a zero in 4 races per year, cause something comes un screwed..... Michael became the hardest worker at Ferrari, it was common for him to be first one at work in the am and last to go home. He demanded that the Italian custom of drinking 3 or 4 glasses of wine at lunch stop, he had a huge hand in the decade long sucess at Ferrari.

Fort.... we should go have drinks and bench race sometime, lots to talk argue about.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 31, 2013 - 06:28pm PT
Did Locker make glue Gud or did glue make Locker Gud...?
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Dec 31, 2013 - 08:10pm PT
Oh Locker is GUD, with or without the GLU . Happy New Year!
Peace
FRUMY

Trad climber
Bishop,CA
Dec 31, 2013 - 10:50pm PT
I hear he's doing a little better.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Jan 1, 2014 - 10:21am PT
You're all right, locker.

Cheers
DMT
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jan 1, 2014 - 11:04am PT
You're all right, locker.

+1

U 2 DMT....


Same to U Frummy...

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