OT: Next Confederate Flag I see = Free trip to Hospital

Search
Go

Discussion Topic

Return to Forum List
Post a Reply
Messages 1 - 20 of total 833 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
Burch3y

Mountain climber
I offer nothing to the discussion
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 8, 2013 - 09:13am PT
I've done a lot of reading on it, and seen several movies on American Slavery - last night I watched 12 Years a Slave.

It was very difficult to watch.

I think it's good to be reminded how terrible we can be as human beings, to each other. I can't even imagine doing those things to another person, or being on the receiving end. Even so, it was a way of life for a very long time, and slavery in some forms continues today in different parts of the world.

I'm amazed what we allow to pass as remembering "heritage"...whatever the f*ck that means.

Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Nov 8, 2013 - 09:20am PT
It is the flag of people who enthusiastically attacked and killed American soldiers.

If they were brown skinned and had a different religion, we'd call them terrorists.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Nov 8, 2013 - 09:22am PT
That oughta solve it.

DMT
Burch3y

Mountain climber
I offer nothing to the discussion
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2013 - 09:26am PT
My understanding is that lower-functioning individuals often respond best to losing teeth.

You don't find much lower-functioning maggots than a racist.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 8, 2013 - 09:31am PT
Confederate flag is nothing. Here in The 909, you're liable to see what I saw at the grocery store the other day: A gal with a saucer-sized Swastika tattooed in the tramp-stamp position.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Nov 8, 2013 - 09:40am PT
"Don't tread on me!"

"I have every right to say anything I want to say!"

"I have every right to do anything I want to do!"

"I have every right to have any gun I want to have!"

"If you don't like this, you are a commie-loving liberal!"
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Nov 8, 2013 - 09:44am PT
Have to agree on low life racist maggots. But right or wrong the confederate flag means more to lot of southerners than a legacy of racism. I don't think it can be beat out of them but I hope you try!
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Nov 8, 2013 - 09:45am PT

I'm still trying to figure this one out.

Curt
Burch3y

Mountain climber
I offer nothing to the discussion
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2013 - 09:46am PT
Oh, they definitely have the right to wear/fly one.

I would submit that I also have the right to store my #4-Camalot fists inside oral cavities as well.

EDIT: Dingus, please enlighten us as the secrets of what it might mean to them that has any tangible worth.

If you can, that would be most excellent.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 8, 2013 - 09:48am PT
Most of the men that did the dying on the Southern side never owned a slave, and yes, they're Americans too.

I agree racism is way wrong.


I would submit that I also have the right to store my #4-Camalot fists inside oral cavities as well.

Actually, one is considered free speech, and one is considered assault.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Nov 8, 2013 - 09:52am PT
Pride of the underdogs. Understand that most who fought were not slave holders and were not fighting for plantations' rights. The subsequent 50 years of carpet bagging 'reconstruction' built a multi-generational antipathy. Racism crept back in with the 2nd ku klux klan. Racism is there now and somewhat prevalent. So too is it here in CA though its less overt here.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Nov 8, 2013 - 09:52am PT
A gal with a saucer-sized Swastika tattooed in the tramp-stamp position.

Maybe she's a Hindu.
Burch3y

Mountain climber
I offer nothing to the discussion
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2013 - 09:55am PT
Most of the men that did the dying on the Southern side never owned a slave, and yes, they're Americans too.

I agree racism is way wrong.

...

Actually, one is considered free speech, and one is considered assault.

I'm not sure I understand the difference between owning a slave and fighting for that right, or not owning one and fighting for that right. It's a mentality that is not justifiable. I've yet to hear a reasonable justification for "pride" in fighting for a portion of our nation that stood for such terrible practices.

One is considered assault? Oh, I didn't know that. Gracias.
Deekaid

climber
Nov 8, 2013 - 09:56am PT
why tell us? go do it
Bullwinkle

Boulder climber
Nov 8, 2013 - 09:57am PT
The Southeren Flag has nothing to do with Racsitism per say, it's not about slaves it's about Rebellion . standing up to what was perceived at the time as Ecomomic Slaverey of the South by the North. It's about Southeren Pride. . .
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Nov 8, 2013 - 09:58am PT
It was about the freedom to enslave others.

Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Nov 8, 2013 - 10:04am PT
150 years after slavery was outlawed ,political interest groups are still ginning up and inflaming a new Civil War of sorts.

I've yet to hear a reasonable justification for "pride" in fighting for a portion of our nation that stood for such terrible practices.

The fact that Jim Crow laws and widespread segregation and discrimination existed in the 1940s did not prevent many brave soldiers , black and white and Latino and Asian, from fighting and dying for their country in WWII .
Sketch

Trad climber
Langley, VA
Nov 8, 2013 - 10:05am PT
I'm not sure I understand the difference between owning a slave and fighting for that right, or not owning one and fighting for that right. It's a mentality that is not justifiable. I've yet to hear a reasonable justification for "pride" in fighting for a portion of our nation that stood for such terrible practices.

Perhaps you should read up on the issue. Some people like to oversimplify the issue. Kind of like blaming Obama for all federal debt that has accrued during his presidency.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Nov 8, 2013 - 10:07am PT
The whole ending slavery thing came up with Lincoln all after the wAr began. I don't care if you westerners don't get it. Those who did he fighting were not fighting to uphold slavery. They were fighting for their country and to this day many southerners take pride in that. Twist it any Y you wish. My experience is low brow people ENOY violence and threatening people.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Nov 8, 2013 - 10:09am PT
http://www.historynet.com/americas-civil-war-missouri-and-kansas.htm


The Kansas/Missouri border wars...^^^^^
Messages 1 - 20 of total 833 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
Return to Forum List
Post a Reply
 
Our Guidebooks
Check 'em out!
SuperTopo Guidebooks


Try a free sample topo!

 
SuperTopo on the Web

Review Categories
Recent Trip Report and Articles
Recent Route Beta
Recent Gear Reviews